I have found a reason to buy where you do not want to stay.

[badeacon]

I have noticed that the cabins at CCV and bungalows at PVB have wide availability under 7 months and in fact June, July and August are wide open. I have 100 point contracts at CCV and PVB under ROFR and was already thinking about adding on in future and thought would be nice to stay in cabins or bungalows some.
Noticing the wide availability of the 2 , why not buy cheaper points elsewhere and use for cabins and bungalows since there appears to be wide availability under 7 months.
Am I missing something ?

 

[miTnosnhoJ]

If you typically travel with a large group, the bungalows might be a good deal if you can get a bunch of cheap points. They basically have the capacity of a 2BR, but are priced like a Grand Villa. So when it comes time to make the reservation, you will be weighing being in the Bungalow or Cabin vs. a 3BR GV somewhere else for the same cost, or even getting 2 2BRs somewhere else for the same cost OR getting a 2BR for half the cost. My guess is that you would find the Bungalows a lot of fun to do once or twice, but in the long run, you would go for a regular 2BR (or for a large crowd a GV or 2 2BRs) to make your points go farther.

 

[Rush]

A similar strategy is currently possible in 1 BR, although certainly not to the same degree as bungalows. Having more, cheaper, points have a much better chance of sleeping around at 7 months than hoping for a studio would. Of course that depends more on time of year, and is also possibly trending in a different direction, but the overall concept is similar to your bungalow observation.

 

[Wakey]

As above this is a strategy already widely practised (by those who did their research) for 1 beds, albeit not as open as cabins you can usually get just about what you want. I haven’t noticed any trend really against the 1 bed strategy. As prices go up, ever more can only afford to buy for studios, and possibly less buy for 1 beds.

 

[Jkarrows]

The other point to remember is the amount of points you need or a Cabin at CCR for one week it's between 639 and 1230 points so your be making some investment from your current 100 points, even on re-sell your need 539 to 1130 more points for just one week if you plan to stay every year, yes you could bank and borrow but your need an extra 115 points to do this every 3 years at least and that's just for one week, it will be similar at the Poly.

I persoanlly think these properties were designed for people with a lot of money or families who all join together to buy points spreading the costs.

 

[sethschroeder]

As above this is a strategy already widely practised (by those who did their research) for 1 beds, albeit not as open as cabins you can usually get just about what you want. I haven’t noticed any trend really against the 1 bed strategy. As prices go up, ever more can only afford to buy for studios, and possibly less buy for 1 beds.

Wouldn't the 1 Bedroom price go down if they are not getting as quickly? Meaning more people can "stretch" their points to get a 1BR once those studios are full right at 11 months?

 

[Deb & Bill]

Bungalows only have real beds for four of the eight guests you could have in the place. One king bed and one queen bed. One sleeper sofa and two murphy beds. And they are real point hogs.

 

[Deb & Bill]

Wouldn't the 1 Bedroom price go down if they are not getting as quickly? Meaning more people can "stretch" their points to get a 1BR once those studios are full right at 11 months?

Where points go down, they must go up somewhere else at that resort. Either a different sized villa or a different time of year.

 

[sethschroeder]

Where points go down, they must go up somewhere else at that resort. Either a different sized villa or a different time of year.

To my point the studios go up because there is such drastic demand for it. The 1BR go down in turn because there is not as much demand for them.

The 1BR vs Studio point difference is something people might start booking instead. Where as something like a Cabin would still be drastically out of reach.

 

[Deb & Bill]

To my point the studios go up because there is such drastic demand for it. The 1BR go down in turn because there is not as much demand for them.

The 1BR vs Studio point difference is something people might start booking instead. Where as something like a Cabin would still be drastically out of reach.

As someone who usually books one bedroom villas, that would be a nice thing to happen. But it probably won't because Disney sold so many bare minimum contracts to new owners to get them in the program and they can't afford one bedrooms with only 75 or 100 points. Like the problem with studios at CCV.

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

To my point the studios go up because there is such drastic demand for it. The 1BR go down in turn because there is not as much demand for them.

The 1BR vs Studio point difference is something people might start booking instead. Where as something like a Cabin would still be drastically out of reach.

In the chart changes done in 2011 our 1BR pt requirements went up. That was probably because at that time when points went down somewhere they needed to go up elsewhere. In the proposed 2020 charts DVC was going to raise both studios and 1BR's claiming that 1BR's were very popular. IMO that was more because the lock-off premium allowed them to do that but they claim 1BR's are in high demand. As long as they stand behind that premis the points won't drop so those who go with that strategy are probably going to be good for awhile because it's long been a trend we've all seen.

 

[Wakey]

Wouldn't the 1 Bedroom price go down if they are not getting as quickly? Meaning more people can "stretch" their points to get a 1BR once those studios are full right at 11 months?

In theory yes, in practise according to DVC who tried to generally increase 1 bed unit cost with lockoff premium, NO because they are not really slow to go (ha ha).
Even if they lowered points of 1 beds ever it would be by a fairly nominal amount and now generally they are twice the cost of studios. The current scenario is how it’s been since Beach Club and Boardwalk were built.

 

[Wakey]

I persoanlly think these properties were designed for people with a lot of money or families who all join together to buy points spreading the costs.

I believe the reason they are built is they are extraordinarily profitable, it wouldn’t surprise me if for the build and land cost they are the most profitable real estate in the world given the points loaded onto them. They also make a good marketing tool. I remember when the Poly DVC was done, huge spread in the national press about the bungalows here in the U.K. and that was not an advertisement feature but a free news article.

 

[Jkarrows]

I believe the reason they are built is they are extraordinarily profitable, it wouldn’t surprise me if for the build and land cost they are the most profitable real estate in the world given the points loaded onto them. They also make a good marketing tool. I remember when the Poly DVC was done, huge spread in the national press about the bungalows here in the U.K. and that was not an advertisement feature but a free news article.

For sure, it was like it was going to be the future of what Disney was going to build, yes they are now adding these in other resorts and may well do the same at ones not yet announced.