I have changed my vote!

[islangrl]

It was wrong.

What was wrong?

 

[Island_Lauri]

I'm sorry but wikipedia, as so many of your fellow BO supporters have informed other posters, is not a reliable source of information.

However, since you want to go there,read further:
Meanings:
* The political manipulation of language, by obfuscation, e.g. WAR IS PEACE.
Using language to obfuscate meaning or to reduce and eliminate ideas and their meanings that are deemed dangerous to its authority.
* Invasion of personal privacy, either directly physically or indirectly by surveillance.
* State control of its citizens' daily life, as in a "Big Brother" society.
* Official encouragement of policies contributing to the socio-economic disintegration of the family.
* The substitution of traditional religion with the adoration of state leaders and their Party.
* The encouragement of "doublethink," whereby the population must learn to embrace inconsistent concepts without dissent, e.g. giving up liberty for freedom. Similar terms used, are "doublespeak", and "newspeak".
* The revision of history in the favour of the State's interpretation of it.
* A dystopian future.

Since when is reading a post in a PUBLIC FORUM surveillance or an invasion of anyone's privacy? As much as the conservatives like to forget, their thread is viewable by anyone who comes to the community board. It is not invisible - it does not require a secret password to view it. It is not off limits to non-subscribers.

If you want to post things that you don't want reposted because you feel that the post might bring a personal attack, then why not just send a PERSONAL message instead or maybe start a private board of your own?

 

[heatherleigh]

Well, seeing as you are from Texas, I'm not exactly worried about your vote.

My thoughts exactly! I think the same thing when talking to my liberal friends up in Alaska (including my mom.)

 

[TCPluto]

I was leaning towards Senator McCain. I liked his history and values.

Initially, I was excited by his selection of Sarah Palin (indeed, after her selection I posted a note about my voting for McCain). However, after more information about her, I grew cautious. Then, I grew alarmed.

Furthermore, after viewing the “threads’ on this board for the last month, I can make this statement: the supporters of Senator John McCain are peeing in their pants about the possible election of Senator Obama. There are LOTS more ‘anti Obama’ threads being started every day, as opposed to “support McCain”. Hence, many are ‘afraid’ of Senator Obama being elected, but they can’t seem to come up with “Support McCain” threads.

I belong to the school of thought: “If the Vocal masses are against something, then it must be worth something”.
To repeat: if so many DIS contributors believe that Senator Obama will be disastrous to this country, based on mostly ‘hearsay’ evidence or such, then he is probably alright.

I listen to Rush Limbaugh everyday, for at least a few minutes. Today, for example, he went on and on about the ‘aunt’ of Senator Obama’s living in a “slum”. He has done this for the past few days. He also keeps referring to Senator Obama’s having a ‘relative’ living in a hut in Kenya.

I don’t care. To Rush: I may well have relatives living in ‘slums’, but that does not change my political thought. I also feel it unkind for you to summarily refer to said Aunt’s neighborhood as a ‘slum’. Maybe she does not feel that way. Some people live where they feel comfortable. Some people do not want ‘hand-outs’ from rich relatives. I know. I have been there. I have lived in ‘poor’ neighborhoods.

As for Kenya? Who cares? Do you expect Senator Obama to “move” his relative to some place in the capitol city? Against his will? Kenya, Rush, is not a ‘rich’ country. Many live in huts. Not all live in Nairobi (the capital).

Many who contribute to this board are obvious listeners of Rush and Sean. You can tell because they tend to contribute to this board soon after Rush is off the air (don’t believe me? Watch this board around noontime).

In summary: I have been persuaded by not only the words of Senator Obama, but the outcries of the Conservative group on this DIS board: Senator Obama may not be my ideal candidate, but after reading all the posts by the “McCain” supporters, I will go with the “Socialist, Communist, Do-Gooder”, etc.

The path you take to make your mind up is very odd.

You'd probably have better luck just rolling the dice. But my sense is you've been for BO and his pal Joey all along....

 

[#1hockeymom]

What was wrong?

The person who took someone else's post, from a different thread, for their own agenda on this thread.

 

[mickey2000]

Well, I agree with you mainly on one thing. There have been very few positive posts about John McCain by his supporters. I don't know why. Not saying there haven't been any. It seems that most of the McCain supporters are busy slinging mud all over this board all day long. There have been very little positive John McCain threads. I don't listen to talk radio at all so I cannot comment on what any of the talking heads are saying. I just hear lots of "silence" when it comes to McCain. From that side of things, it is just fear-mongering.

DITTO !!
Tired of ALL the negative TV ads ...........

 

[lindalinda]

The path you take to make your mind up is very odd.

You'd probably have better luck just rolling the dice. But my sense is you've been for BO and his pal Joey all along....

Thank goodness you are here to tell them what they are thinking.

 

[Island_Lauri]

Suggesting that someone go over to another thread and post THEIR OWN WORDS is completely different than copying and pasting someone else's post under your own name from one thread to another. The first is perfectly appropriate; the second is incredibly inappropriate and intended only to bring about personal attacks.

If you had simply suggested "that someone go over to another thread and post THEIR OWN WORDS" and I reposted that as I am now, I don't think you would be upset or think that people might attack you for posting that in the first place.

And please note that I do not paste someone else's post under my own name. I make a post under my own screen name and if I include a quote from someone else, I always give them FULL CREDIT for their own post.

 

[disneyjunkie]

Posting links between threads isn't new. Starting threads about something that was posted on another thread isn't new. These things have been happening on the DIS for years.

Why is it such a big deal now?

 

[TCPluto]

Thank goodness you are here to tell them what they are thinking.

Did I quote you??? Let me check. Nope. Do you have multiple screen names you're using on here to bolster the BO support thread/post counts???

You know, now that I think of it, that is what BO's folks were/are doing!

 

[islangrl]

It was wrong.

The person who took someone else's post, from a different thread, for their own agenda on this thread.

Is that the same kind of wrong as posting about this thread on a different thread, then telling people to come "and tell her no one's buying it?

That sounds like a premeditated rally to attack.

THAT is WRONG!

 

[rie'smom]

Posting links between threads isn't new. Starting threads about something that was posted on another thread isn't new. These things have been happening on the DIS for years.

Why is it such a big deal now?

Maybe posting links between threads isn't new and starting threads about something that was posted on another thread isn't new.
However, doing this just to make trouble for someone is something that is new.
It is wrong.

 

[crazyforgoofy]

Is that the same kind of wrong as posting about this thread on a different thread, then telling people to come "and tell her no one's buying it?

That sounds like a premeditated rally to attack.

THAT is WRONG!

Uh, oh. I think you've got 'em with that one.

 

[crazyforgoofy]

Maybe posting links between threads isn't new and starting threads about something that was posted on another thread isn't new.
However, doing this just to make trouble for someone is something that is new.
It is wrong.

Knock knock. I'm tapping on your computer screen.

Isn't that exactly what loco did in the first place? You're upset because someone else did it back?

 

[TCPluto]

I'm impressed at the thought you've put into your choice. I tip my hat to you.

Would you be equally impressed if, with same thougfulness and analysis, she came up with McCain/Palin????

Something tells me the answer is no.

 

[yeartolate]

I've spent most of the last couple of hours typing this, trying to word it just right while watching Ghost Hunters. The thread was on page 2 and I have no idea where it's at now.

Trust me, when all is said and done, history will record that one factor that weighed against McCain in the minds of moderates and independents is the choice of Palin as his VP. The OP is far from the only person to change their preference.

All through the primaries and most of the post-primary months I've been very torn and not an Obama supporter. During the primaries I followed the candidates on both sides.

Among the Democrats I thought Richardson had the most wide-ranging resume and Biden a huge amount of experience. I opposed Hillary Clinton mainly because the country needs to escape the whole Bush/Clinton cycle we've been stuck in, and Obama may be rich in charisma but appears light in experience.

Among the Republicans, I gravitated toward Romney. He has executive experience in the public and private sectors and his success in business shows he knows how business works. McCain seemed like the elder stateman whose moment for the nomination had passed but still gained respect as a man of honor and duty to country.

When it came down to Obama and McCain, I fully expected to support McCain. When it came down to it, I believed that the US would be better served by someone with McCain's experience and that Obama was still too inexperienced to be president. Still, I wanted to see who their VP picks would be.

Despite the criticisms and ads arguing Obama's inexperience, McCain ended up chosing Sarah Palin. She had less experience in high office than Obama, was a very obscure choice that bypassed many other more qualified possibilities. At first, my thought was that McCain was either crazy like a fox or just plain crazy and I hadn't decided which it was. Now, it seems more like McCain chose her because of the flash and novelty of choosing a female and because he was pressured to appeal to the far right wing of the party.

I like DC outsiders coming in as president or vice president and shaking things up. While she was first billed as a reformer, too much has come out to make me doubt those claims. The per diem reimbursements when she was working out of her home in Wasilla may have been legal but had a strong stink of taking advantage of the system she supposedly sought to reform. Questions abound about the firing of her brother-in-law and of the public safety commissioner for refusing to fire him. The deal with a bounty on wolves showed a willingness to assume authority she does not have. She may or may not have attempted censorship at the city library, but charging rape victims for rape kits vital to criminal investigations is appalling. The final clincher for me would be her continuing verbal dancing when answering questions (or avoidance of answering questions), from the VP debate to a simple yes or no whether someone who bombs an abortion clinic would be a terrorist. Her convoluted answer sounded like a "no" to me. So she would not consider Atlanta Olympic bomber Eric Rudolph a terrorist? That he is seems pretty cut and dry to me.

Like it or not, the candidates are a package deal. You get one with the other, there is no separating them. The VP choice is important because that shows who the potential president believes is qualified to take over for them should the need arise. Considering his age and health history, it's a very important selection for McCain.

This is not a decision I came to lightly. I admire and respect Senator McCain, and I believe the US would be well served with him as president. However, I do not feel comfortable about Governor Palin as being that close to the presidency. I would gladly vote for John McCain for president with any other running mate, but I can not vote for McCain/Palin. Despite my misgivings and my concerns, I will vote for Obama/Biden.

Nice post.

Unlike you, I supported Obama snce the convention.

But I was a McCain admirer from way back. I did not like his behavior of the past several years, but deep down, I knew that "the real maverick" would come back - he did what he had to do to get elected. In my heart I knew whichever candidate won, America would be better off on January 20,2009.
Then McCain chose Palin. Before too long it was clear why she was chosen and that she really was not fit for the job.

So now instead of hoping for Obama, but being satisfied either way....I do not have this sense of calm. I know I am not alone. There were so many other VP choices that would have been good for the country and possibly brought this country together.

 

[disneyjunkie]

Maybe posting links between threads isn't new and starting threads about something that was posted on another thread isn't new.
However, doing this just to make trouble for someone is something that is new.
It is wrong.

Nope, that has also been going on for years.

If it's wrong, why does the system allow it?

So is this wrong also? (I think it is)

Is that the same kind of wrong as posting about this thread on a different thread, then telling people to come "and tell her no one's buying it?

That sounds like a premeditated rally to attack.

THAT is WRONG!

 

[TCPluto]

Thank goodness you are here to tell them what they are thinking.

Where am I suggesting to them what they should think???

That's an odd jump to make, really it is.

 

[Biscuitsmom31]

Is that the same kind of wrong as posting about this thread on a different thread, then telling people to come "and tell her no one's buying it?

That sounds like a premeditated rally to attack.

THAT is WRONG!

Bam!

 

[goofyernmost]

I will be so glad when this election is over. The BS being piled up by both sides at this point has almost covered the planet.

Vote for whomever you want for whatever reason you want and if the majority agrees with you, your favorite will be elected. If not...majority rules. Try again in 4 years.

Unfortunately, there will be constant whining over the next 4 regardless of who wins. Become an adult and speak with your vote on election day.

I, personally, have said all I intend to say about this particular election. It will be what it will be. I will vote my favorite and if they loose, congratulations to the other side. If that be the case, you will have no idea how much I will be hoping that you were right and I was wrong.

My final word is this...no one that has ever been elected as President for the first time had any experience being President. It's an on the job training type of position. We reelected someone four years ago that had four years experience as President and I can say right now that wasn't one of the wisest moves we, as a nation, ever made.