I find it hard to believe...

[psufamilyluvsdis]

that the people on this forum are that critical that they would personally attack someone! I was not satisfied with a purchase and asked your help because I was having trouble finding his e-mail on the TGM website, I have seen many posts about people being completely harsh about everything! And I know that I had previously asked a ticket question but it wasn't to try to scam WDW I had a minor panic attack about how much the trip was costing and I had heard from a girl I work with that someone had done used a FL resident to buy their tickets before so I was asking your HELP with the true answer to that! I have loved getting on these forums in the past and I'm not sure that I want to use them anymore! You all have really hurt my feelings about having my own opinion I feel like I have done something wrong in not agreeing with the group! Thanks alot for all your "help"! And by the way I did finally get his e-mail and a refund, and I thank him for that, but I am in a self employed business and know that not everyone will always be happy, I really do not believe I was harsh in my comments just honest and direct!

 

[MichelleChell]

I agree. I do not post questions anymore because I have seen how people are attacked for asking a simple question. I think there alot of people on here that need to grow up and be adults and let things roll off there back that slightly piss them off.

This is supposed to be a nice board to get and share info about one of the best trips you can take in your life. I have found lately it is not.

Go ahead flame me!

 

[MareQ]

I think there alot of people on here that need to grow up and be adults and let things roll off there back that slightly piss them off.

QUOTE]


I agree - now heed your own advise because it goes both ways.....

 

[mom2of2]

I wouldn't sweat it. Really, do a bunch of strangers mean that much to you? Use the boards to get info and when you get the answer that you are looking for then move on. Don't visit the thread anymore and don't try to defend your position, it just makes it worse and it's not worth it. The DIS has lots of different forums for Disney information.

 

[VacationDad]

I may be in the minority because I am a guy and I don't really care, but my attitude to any of these online "communities" is, I've lived 35 years without knowing you, so I won't lose any sleep wondering whether you like me or not.

Your original post was a pretty harsh and vague criticism. People wondered what your intent was. Don't share your opinions in any online forum if it bothers you that much that people might not agree with you.

 

[letsgoagainsoon]

Psufamilyluvsdis, this is TOTALLY off the subject...but I am from Williamsport too!! ANYWAY, back to the subject, I hope you don't leave these boards, because I know some people can get very defensive here, but I have learned SO much about Disney since I have found this site!

 

[Seahunt]

Look at it this way - you're not a board "virgin" anymore, you've officially been flamed!

Everyone on here has or will have to learn you can't take it personally when people on ANY board (not just DIS, some cruise vacation boards are especially vicious if you don't like that particular cruise line) disagree with you- and also remember, you really can't tell what context some replies are because you can't "hear" what the person actually means, sometimes it types out more harshly than it would be spoken....

I agree that it's better to just let it lie when you receive a reply that makes you sad, you can NEVER win by keeping it going.

 

[Padraig Tipton]

To psufamilyluvsdis -

When I first read your original post, I wondered what sort of ulterior motive had caused you to post the rant. If you simply were having trouble finding Mike's email address, why not just post that question? What was the purpose of the diatribe? Seriously, why not just say "Can anyone tell me how to reach Tour Guide Mike with a question?"

But you chose to post negatively, and as a result, you received negative responses. You really shouldn't have been surprised or shocked.

In this newer post, you also started negatively and then moved into self-pity ("I'm not sure that I want to use them anymore! You all have really hurt my feelings"). Again, what's the point? If you feel that way, just stop posting; there's no need to make a declaration and waste our time. Could it be that you crave attention? Or perhaps just bored?

Anyway, my advice would be to try again with a more positive approach. You might be surprised at the results.

Padraig

 

[JRawkSteady]

I agree, you seemed like you were starting an argument and you WERE a bit harsh, but so are a lot of other people here. Don't let it bother you, most of us are just fun-loving guys and gals anyway!

 

[shatzjsl]

psufamilyluvsdis

Sorry you felt attacked.

 

[goofie4goofy]

I think the point the OP is trying to make is that it is almost impossible to make a negative remark here without being flamed. People are allowed to have different opinions and when someone does not go with the flow...well we have all seen what happens. Not everything is great, and not everything is great for everybody, but we are all entitled to our opinion and should not be judged by not agreeing with the masses.

We also learn from negatives as well as positives.

 

[Padraig Tipton]

I agree that opposing opinions can be informative and helpful. I was referring to the negative tone of the original post.

For example, the title of the original post read: "I am NOT happy with TGM!"

A better, more neutral opening such as "How can I contact TGM?" would have resulted in replies that did not allegedly "flame" the poster. It would have been a non-issue, but again, I think the person had ulterior motives.

As for the text of the post, why not just say, "Does anybody know how to email Tour Guide Mike?" instead of whining. But in choosing to do so, they left themselves open to criticism and then appeared surprised at the response.

Tis just an attempt to use negativity and pity as a method for receiving attention. My mother-in-law uses it all the time as well.

 

[MareQ]

I think the point the OP is trying to make is that it is almost impossible to make a negative remark here without being flamed. People are allowed to have different opinions and when someone does not go with the flow...well we have all seen what happens. Not everything is great, and not everything is great for everybody, but we are all entitled to our opinion and should not be judged by not agreeing with the masses.

We also learn from negatives as well as positives.

So it's only ok for an OP on a thread to voice their opinion? All the comments that come after, negative or positive, are ALSO opinions. We're ALL entitled to have an opinion and we're all entitled to post our opinions. If somebody cannot handle the potential flames that may come then maybe they shouldn't be postinng in public forums.

 

[chamonix]

psufamilyluvsdis, I don't know if you are new to the internet, or new to message boards in general, so I wanted to offer what I hope will be constructive, good information for you regarding how people judge a posters intent or tone online.

If you use lots of exclamation points, people will think you sound excited or angry.

If you use all capital letters, it is considered to be practically yelling, so that also gives your post a an excited, or strident, or angry tone.

And most importantly: If you put a mad face at the end of your post, people will assume that you are angry.

So much in your post made people think you were very angry, because it had all these things in it that people online use to "see" intent or tone in people's words.

Please don't think I am trying to scold you or anything I know when I was new online I did things just like that too, until I learned the ropes. I hope you understand better now why folks might have thought your post "sounded" so negative. Take care, and please don't let this run you off from the DIS.

 

[misskrystal]

Things can get a bit heated and a bit out of hand on here sometimes. I have no problem with people voicing opinions, but I'm sure we've all seen people get plain nasty on here. I even had some pretty rude comments when I mentioned the cost of my last trip!

Now I just skip the rude posters and read everyone else's constructive opinions and advice.

 

[Houston_Disney_Fan]

Flames about flaming. This is hilarious.

 

[holcomb-mania]

IIRC, TGM has its own forums where the question could've been asked.

 

[TSWJan78]

My only questions is why not post it in the old thread.... the people in that thread are the ones you are referring to so tell them that there....

 

[Sammie]

I have to agree with some of the others, as it is the nature of the beast.

Also one has to remember it is really hard to convey feelings on the written word of a forum. That sometimes what one person takes as being rude, I simply see as being direct.

Also some seem to think everyone should agree with them and when they don't they see that as being rude also.

When one posts on a "public" forum one is going to get many opinions, not all are going to agree.

I will say the ones I find most amusing are from people who blast someone for being rude, when in truth they are being just as rude.

I would never let it bother me at all.

 

[KathyTX]

As this is not a helpful trip planning topic and is veering into personal attacks upon other posters, this thread is off topic for the Theme Parks Attractions and Strategies board and is being closed.