I don't hate the BR program...

[freakylick]

The people with the problem are the ones who want to book, and book, and book.... And take the rooms, and then if a low enough rate doesnt come out they cancle it.

Really?! Those are the people with the problem. Would you like to show me the survey results that you did to come to that conclusion...because it seems to me that there are a lot more than that which have a problem with it...including myself who never "scammed" WDW.

The scammers. We are "to blame" for best rate. I did it, i admit it, now we live with the consequence. ... weve manipulated, and extorted so much, that Disney was forced to create this new program, we all hate, b/c it prevents us from scamming them. AND THATS how i feel about Best Rate. lol

I am glad that you can be so flippant about your "scam" (your word, not mine)....which is potentially the main reason preventing people who weren't scammers from getting discounts.

Anybody who says "we cant take sudden trips now"... Um yes you can, but your just going to have to go Pop or Mod...

That was a rather presumptuous statement. What if they were staying value before...now what...they are to stay offsite or not go at all...and thus miss out on a lot of the "magic" that they once got to experience.

 

[wanna-b-Tink]

I love BR! I've voiced my opinion on several other threads, so I won't do it in depth again. This plan simplified getting AP discounts on rooms. You have to remember that only AP holders can use BR, so it is still an AP discount, just easier to get now that we all aren't trying to beat each other to the phone every morning at 6:59.

 

[C.Ann]

There is a quote, that says: "We have seen the enemy and he is us." If the shoes fits you can only blame yourself if it is now pinching your toes.

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Love that quote.. It's especially nice because it can apply both ways..

 

[lillygator]

too bad this couldn't stay a BR lover thread!

 

[C.Ann]

The scammers. We are "to blame" for best rate. I did it, i admit it, now we live with the consequence. Anybody who says "we cant take sudden trips now"... Um yes you can, but your just going to have to go Pop or Mod... And then lets not forget the most important peice of info... THEY'RE ANUAL PASSES! They are soley to get you into the parks, everything else is a bonus, which weve manipulated, and extorted so much, that Disney was forced to create this new program, we all hate, b/c it prevents us from scamming them. AND THATS how i feel about Best Rate. lol

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Glad to see that you can admit that you are a scammer.. However, it is quite presumptious to assume that "everyone" else has done the same thing..

I have never booked any sort of room with an AP - and with the new restrictions in place, never will.. Until such time that Disney states you can no longer enter the parks unless you stay in one of their resorts, I will happily spend the majority of my $$ offsite.. Of course I will also email my displeasure to Disney in regards to their manipulations; inconsistent information; shoddy on-line reservation system; etc..

For those who still choose to say onsite, I sincerely hope you have a wonderful trip! As for me, this is the kind of "magic" I can do without..

 

[C.Ann]

too bad this couldn't stay a BR lover thread!

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Probably would have if someone didn't feel the need to imply that "everyone" was a scammer..

 

[ironz]

I'm with you on this one, EsmereldaX!!

p.s. Nice meeting you back in May!!

 

[Sammie]

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Love that quote.. It's especially nice because it can apply both ways..

Well one we can agree on,

I definitely think Marketing needs some major tuning at Disney. It makes it hard on the rest of the staff when Marketing makes the decisions, then changes the decisions, then makes new ones, and the CM's at the phones have to deal with the fallout and upset guests. Those are the ones I feel for. They did not cause the problems and yet they get attacked.

 

[C.Ann]

I definitely think Marketing needs some major tuning at Disney. It makes it hard on the rest of the staff when Marketing makes the decisions, then changes the decisions, then makes new ones, and the CM's at the phones have to deal with the fallout and upset guests. Those are the ones I feel for. They did not cause the problems and yet they get attacked.

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Watch out! You're not going to believe this, but I think you've just hit on something I can agree with as well.. LOL

I also feel bad for the CM's and feel that upper management should be held accountable for the positions that they put the CM's in on a hour-to-hour, day-to-day basis..

 

[shellybaxter]

I like the BR program just fine. I too feel APs are only for park entry and am pleased with any additional perks disney decides they would like to give us. I disagree that Disney groomed anyone to expect codes. Would people rather Disney had not offered so many AP codes over the years? I don't mind the non-refundable deposit, even though I like split stays and have to put down two deposits. I just figure that I'll follow what ever rules Disney sets up and be happy that they gave me a discount at all, not upset that it wasn't big enough, or the way I wanted it. That sounds kind of spoiled to me.

Shelly

 

[PrincessMo]

Hi ppl.

I personally don't feel we should attack each other. To each his own, I say. For me, the BRP doesn't work right now, but that is me. And I think everyone should be able to praise or complain on these boards without getting a personal attack. Seems like with all this passholder hulabaloo everyone is getting defensive. We are all on the same team. I for one, love hearing all the different views, helps me to be more open minded. And I want to feel that I can express my opinion on why something does or doesn't work for me without feeling someone is going to call me a bad name or feel that I am doing or thinking something wrong.

Where's our Disney spirit? I think that (including myself) we should all relax. Think happy thoughts, and whatever is supposed to happen, will happen. "maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but soon and for the rest of your life".......LOL, sorry had to say that.

Anyways, just wanted to say that I think everyone's opinions are valid, and actually a delight to read but I think everyone seems to be getting heated over this AP thing, and it is making everything come out judgemental.

Have A Disney Day!!!! Wishing you all pixie dust!!!

 

[Renate_do]

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Probably would have if someone didn't feel the need to imply that "everyone" was a scammer..

May somebody please explain to me what "scammer" mean? I tried to translate by Babelfish but I could not find a translation into german.

Greets from Germany

 

[ECurto]

Really?! Those are the people with the problem. Would you like to show me the survey results that you did to come to that conclusion... that they once got to experience.

Ok i didn’t say i constantly did it. I have i done it a once or twice, and I admit it. (more then ive seen anybody on these boards do) And if you think the majority of people on here haven’t youre crazy. Lets take for example the thread that the mods had to close b/c over 10K people on this board viewed, and manipulated Disney out of deluxe concierge rooms for 22 dollars a night. As apposed to the 3 people in the thread who were against it. There’s my survey.

Secondly you mentioned nothing about annual passes being for the parks, and not your hotel discounts. But i guess that doesn’t support your case.

Further more, you need to not take everything you read so literal. My post was meant in an informative, and humorous way. The people annoyed with my post, annoyed with Disney, annoyed with life, need to go find something else to be upset about, n/c whining on here how Disney stopped you from scamming this is ridiculous.

 

[mommyoeo]

I just am not a huge fan of the non-refundable deposit. We are the only ones that have to do this.

Actually, I was told I would lose my $200 deposit when I called to cancel. Or I could pay a fee to make changes. I booked without an AP. I think that was the rule for everyone but AP holders before, but I could be wrong.

 

[MinnieM21]

Actually, I was told I would lose my $200 deposit when I called to cancel. Or I could pay a fee to make changes. I booked without an AP. I think that was the rule for everyone but AP holders before, but I could be wrong.

If you didn't book with the BRP there is no fee to make changes to your reservation. I'm an AP holder(but didn't book with the BRP) and I made changes to my reservation multiple times without being charged a fee.

Also, if you didn't book with the BRP, to receive a refund of your deposit, you have to notify the CRO 5 days before your arrival date that you will be cancelling. (this is from the Cancellation Policy on my reservation)

 

[ironz]

My only problems with it were like alot of other people, I was having trouble logging onto the AP website (and still can't on my computer at home). I finally found one computer at work that lets me log onto it. .

Aubriee...
Try going in and deleting the cookies from your computer for the disneyworld.com website...then you will have to re-enter your passholder number, but then maybe it will work. That's what I had to do.

Hope that helps!

 

[Sammie]

May somebody please explain to me what "scammer" mean? I tried to translate by Babelfish but I could not find a translation into german.

Greets from Germany

A scammer takes advantage of a situation due to some loophole (fault)l in how it is set up.

 

[EsmeraldaX]

I'm with you on this one, EsmereldaX!!

p.s. Nice meeting you back in May!!

Nice meeting you too!

 

[freakylick]

Ok i didn’t say i constantly did it. I have i done it a once or twice

Once, twice, a thousand times...the number is irrelevant.

, and I admit it. (more then ive seen anybody on these boards do)

Congratulations on admitting your transgressions!

And if you think the majority of people on here haven’t youre crazy.

Then I'm crazy.

Lets take for example the thread that the mods had to close b/c over 10K people on this board viewed, and manipulated Disney out of deluxe concierge rooms for 22 dollars a night. As apposed to the 3 people in the thread who were against it. There’s my survey.

Okay...so the thread was viewed 10k times...that doesn't correlate to 10k people and it certainly doesn't mean that everyone who viewed the thread committed whatever the act in question was. And finally, that "proof" is irrelevant if you can't prove the correlation from those that committed the act and those that are against BRP as your original point implied.

Secondly you mentioned nothing about annual passes being for the parks, and not your hotel discounts. But i guess that doesn’t support your case.

You're right I didn't mention it. This point has been discussed on other threads...But since you are curious, I will summarize by saying that I think it is quite a statement on customer service what was done and how it was handled.

Further more, you need to not take everything you read so literal.

I'm sorry, was there something that wasn't meant literally?

My post was meant in an informative, and humorous way.

As I said before, I am glad that you can be so flippant.

The people annoyed with my post, annoyed with Disney, annoyed with life, need to go find something else to be upset about,

You addressed your issues with the detractors and they have every right to address their issues with your comments. If you don't want them to be upset with your comments, then it may be wise to not make those comments.

whining on here how Disney stopped you from scamming this is ridiculous.

Again, I tell you that I never committed any "scam" against Disney. To that same point, I have yet to see anyone complain that Disney stopped them from scamming...that has merely been your assumption. I feel that some may not be annoyed had you not implied that the BRP detractors were the "scammers".

 

[GADISNEYGIRL]

I don't hate it, since we got WL for $135/night for January! DH says it's comparable to last year's AP rate (we didn't have AP then), and we are guaranteed that price, 5 months out. So we're pretty happy, right now!