I am a Disboard-quoting, rule-following nerd!

[minnie61650]

Mazigal belittled me to the point I have no dignity left. He belittled.belittled me. Even when I said perhaps I was mistaken and I would never intentionally give out misinformation, but he kept saying I was inventing rules. He literally killed all my self esteem. I did call a truce.I should not let him get to me but he did.
Perhaps more than he will ever know.
I am going to delete most of my posts.
I know my posts will still be on his his quotes
but I am hoping by deleting mine I will feel a little less sad.
Thanks to all of you who have offered your support.

 

[Muziqal]

Mazigal belittled me to the point I have no dignity left. He just kept beating me.I said perhaps I was mistaken and I would never intentionally give out misinformation, but he kept saying I was inventing rules. He literally killed all my self esteem. I did call a truce.I should not let him get to me but he did.
Perhaps more than he will ever know.
I am going to delete most of my posts.
I know my posts will still be on his his quotes
but I am hoping by deleting mine I will feel a little less sad.
Thanks to all of you who have offered your support.

Are you attempting to start another debate Minnie? I thought you called a truce?

 

[mickman1962]

Mazigal belittled me to the point I have no dignity left. He belittled.belittled me. Even when I said perhaps I was mistaken and I would never intentionally give out misinformation, but he kept saying I was inventing rules. He literally killed all my self esteem. I did call a truce.I should not let him get to me but he did.
Perhaps more than he will ever know.
I am going to delete most of my posts.
I know my posts will still be on his his quotes
but I am hoping by deleting mine I will feel a little less sad.
Thanks to all of you who have offered your support.

It's a shame when nice people feel forced to leave because of the arrogance of others. Muziqal, you're slowing down, you haven't managed to get this thread closed yet.

 

[Muziqal]

It's a shame when nice people feel forced to leave because of the arrogance of others. Muziqal, you're slowing down, you haven't managed to get this thread closed yet.

You're kidding yourself if you think she left Mickman...she's in another debate in Resorts right now.

Dis M-E-L-O-D-R-A-M-A...more entertaining than any reality tv show I've seen in a long time.

I thought you were going for getting this thread locked?

 

[kaytieeldr]

I still laugh about that one. Here I thought the contract was good for my lifetime but it was only good for the lifetime of the gym....
As longtime DIS member (name removed) has stated before "according to Florida statute, nothing is ever sold for "lifetime" but rather just until notification of termination."

It is well within your right to not bring your mug back...but to tell others they can't because you got duped by a "get fit quick" scheme in the 70's is ridiculous. Stop making up rules and do something about what bothers you if it's that important.

It's, erm, "interesting" that you consider an amusing first-hand anecdote to be mean anybody was duped; notwithstanding, the above-quoted Florida statute (law, for anyone not familiar with big words) proves that nobody is making up rules.

I think you got your law degree the same place you look for fitness establishments.
I think you'll have a hard time convincing anyone that this is illegal. And people ask me why I find some of the Disers humorous! haha!

{... scrolling back...} Nope, don't see anybody claiming to have any law degree; in fact, I only see so-called 'quotes' of some invisible post. As for some posters being humorous... I find hypercritical posters hilarious, so I'm sure nobody will mind if I laugh AT the poster I quoted here...

A notice of termination must specifically state the agreement that is being terminated. The new policy of "length of stay" does not invalidate previously purchased "lifetime" mugs. In order for the termination clause to applicable, Disney would need to issue a formal notice specifically stating that mugs previously sold under the "free refills for life" policy would no longer be honored.

Well, but which is stronger - hearsay (people in the past being verbally informed that the mugs are good for a lifetime - which lifetime, by the way: the Guest's, the resorts {making Dixie Landings mugs entirely invalid}, the mug's, the vacation's?) or written policy?

Who cares.... really.
Personally, I could not be bothered with packing a mug to get free soda. I think it's petty and just not worth it.
But we all have our little "things" that we do don't we? Some get free soda, some shop lift, some cheat on their taxes, thier spouses, use expired coupons, wear something once then return it.....well you get the picture. The list goes on but the point is we are not perfect.

WHAT? Who's using expired coupons??? More to the point - what stores are ACCEPTING them??? I gotta go shopping...

And if you didn't care, as you state above, you wouldn't be classified as a Dis-board quoting, rulle following nerd.

Well, goodness gracious me - aren't YOU just the sweetest, most polite thang...?

Oh my god...I didn't know things were so bad! Were you in on the secret loss prevention meetings at Disney? Is this how you received the stats that say rule following is way down from 98%?
You sound a bit too desparate to prove your point. Do you have proof that this is as huge a dilemma as you say?

Not sure where you're getting these so-called "quotes", but it's interesting that some people apparently confuse ethics and desperation...

To an earlier poster--you're right. I AM a Disney Nazi. I need a support group...

Um, no. What considers itself the "normal" world needs a support group for dealing with us. We're right, they're wrong :::grin:::

Haha - the survivor and Da vinci references are just literary fluff. No one was accusing you of being a conspiracy theorist. You said tax evasion...I think Richard what ever his name is.

You DO know there's a whole world out there, beyond the television, right? That the Survivor guy was far from the first, surely not the last, and most definitely not the biggest tax evader? Honest - they have these things called newspapers, and news shows, and even that Internet doohickie whatchamacallit that report about NON-reality show contestant lawbreakers.

Now now, name calling? If "bitter" is a name? Bitter about people posting fictional policies?

It's an adjective enhancing the word individual - not 'name-calling'. And the POSTED policy IS that refillable mugs are valid for the lifetime of the vacation during which they are purchased, at the resort at which they are purchased (with some 'sister-resort' exceptions). It's in writing on the mug and on signs in the areas where said mugs are available for purchase.

I thought you were going for getting this thread locked?

The only non-moderator who can request that a thread be locked is the original poster. On the other hand, a person being overly rude, obnoxious and insulting in a given thread can CAUSE it to be locked. Check your mirror.

 

[minnie61650]

From this Mouseplanet.com website:

http://www.mouseplanet.com/mike/ref...icy_changes.htm

In an effort to rein in costs and increase income, the Walt Disney World Resort hotels are making some drastic changes to the extremely popular refillable mug program that may affect many repeat visitors to the resort.

[If you are unfamiliar with the program, you can read about it in MousePlanet's WDW Resorts from A to Z page under "Refillable Mugs."]

According to an article in the Orlando Sentinel entitled "32 ounces of soda not enough? Disney tries out self-serve refills," Walt Disney World is making large 32-ounce soft drink mugs available for free self-serve refills in Typhoon Lagoon. That's the good news. The bad news is that you can only refill your mug on the day of purchase. If you return to Typhoon Lagoon the next day, you can no longer refill your mug for free.

Disney has added a new UPC bar coding system to the self-serve refill stations that, for the first time, controls a previously unenforced policy. Although the refillable mug program has always been advertised as available during an actual length of stay that allows guests to refill their mugs during their trip, in reality, guests often brought their mugs back on subsequent trips to refill them free of charge. With the UPC code tied to a guest's hotel reservation, this new system closes this loophole altogether. That is, once your stay has ended, your mug is no longer refillable. Those mugs you bought on previous visits won't work next time you vacation at WDW.
Another loophole that may close with this new system is that you might not be able to use your mug at any other resort except at the one you are staying. For example, if you stay at one of the resorts for a few days and purchase a mug there, and then you move over to another resort for the balance of your vacation, the mug might not be refillable at the second resort.How will this new system be enforced? Once the UPC code system is fully activated, they can devise a system by which the fountains work only if an "active" UPC code is on the mug.

WDW visitors are already complaining that the new system is yet another line to stand in and just "more time-consuming nonsense cutting into [one's] vacation time."

Did you recently visit WDW and see this change in practice? If you have any first-hand knowledge or experience, please email me or Brian Bennett at brian@mouseplanet.com to provide us with more details.

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Have fun at Disney !

 

[Muziqal]

Oh, oh...wait for it...we got a biter...

It's, erm, "interesting" that you consider an amusing first-hand anecdote to be mean anybody was duped; notwithstanding, the above-quoted Florida statute (law, for anyone not familiar with big words) proves that nobody is making up rules.

If you read any of my posts regarding whether this statute applies to this promotion, you would have also read that it is merely your interpretation of the law. As you are not a legal representative of WDW and have yet to provide proof from one that is...you, my dear, are only speculating. Where did you get your law degree...and more importantly, which legal division of Disney do you work in? If you do have written confirmation that Disney will not honour my mug purchased back when it was "free refills for life" because of said statute, please do post a link so we may all examine and verify ourselves. Clever Bicker and his clever statute. But until you produce an official response from Disney...all you statute quoters are just hearsay as well. Sucks to be wrong.

Well, but which is stronger - hearsay (people in the past being verbally informed that the mugs are good for a lifetime - which lifetime, by the way: the Guest's, the resorts {making Dixie Landings mugs entirely invalid}, the mug's, the vacation's?) or written policy?

Wait, wait...yes, yes you did. You did what a lot of people are doing. It's jus that you're mistaking speculation for fact. Please provide proof that this is written policy...specifically to do with the refillable mug policy in WDW resorts. A letter from any official Disney rep would suffice.

Well, goodness gracious me - aren't YOU just the sweetest, most polite thang...?

In my defense, I didn't create the title of this thread nor am I nearly creative enough to take credit for the initial proclamation. But I do call things as I see them, so I guess you have a point. No argument here.

Not sure where you're getting these so-called "quotes", but it's interesting that some people apparently confuse ethics and desperation...[/

Please re-read this thread as it looks like you missed some things. Post #26 quotes Minnie making a bold statement that 98% of the people used to follow rules. She then claimed that the percentage has since dropped. I was merely asking her where she got these figures from. "Quote" is a quote in my books? You have a different definition? I'm confused about your statement regarding ethics and desperation though and how it relates to this quote? Please explain.

Um, no. What considers itself the "normal" world needs a support group for dealing with us. We're right, they're wrong :::grin:::

Ummm...where can I sign up?

You DO know there's a whole world out there, beyond the television, right? That the Survivor guy was far from the first, surely not the last, and most definitely not the biggest tax evader? Honest - they have these things called newspapers, and news shows, and even that Internet doohickie whatchamacallit that report about NON-reality show contestant lawbreakers.

Hmmm...sounds like you're more up to date with the reality tv shows than I am. My bad. Couldn't care less what Survivor he was from. Pop culture references only, my dear. You're right...let's keep things boring and to the fact. No creative writing liberties here at all. Dis Nazis all the way.

It's an adjective enhancing the word individual - not 'name-calling'. And the POSTED policy IS that refillable mugs are valid for the lifetime of the vacation during which they are purchased, at the resort at which they are purchased (with some 'sister-resort' exceptions). It's in writing on the mug and on signs in the areas where said mugs are available for purchase.

You say potato, I say potato (hmmm...that doesn't work unless you verbalize it, does it?). Anyways...back to the point you seem to have missed. We're not debating what current posted policy is. We all have read the signs. We're debating whether you can prove to me that Disney has a policy that states I can't bring back my mug (well, I personally didn't keep mine....darn it) that I bought during the "free refills for life" policy and use it for future visits to the same resort. We're inferring, by how many people have had a CM or Manager honour that old policy, that Disney still unofficially honours this marketing blunder. Many Disers claim this existed and not one Dis Nazi has proven that it didn't exist. If you can't prove they don't honour it and there was never such a policy, then "Dis Nazis" can't call people thieves for doing this. You've also, like your predecessors, failed to prove this. I'm giving advice that if you have a mug that was sold to you under the old policy and want to take it back, then you should have the right to ask the CM when you get there if he/she will honour it. No one is advocating stealing, honey. We're also debating whether you can prove to me that Disney has an offiicial policy that states if I buy a refillable mug at a resort tomorrow, I am not able to share it with my spouse during our length of stay. You've failed to do that as well.

The only non-moderator who can request that a thread be locked is the original poster. On the other hand, a person being overly rude, obnoxious and insulting in a given thread can CAUSE it to be locked. Check your mirror.

Checked the mirror...and gosh darn I look good tonight! And to the rest I say, there is probably a reason this thread hasn't been locked yet, no? The mods are watching me like a hawk these days because, as she posted, I made Minnie cry (again, Minnie, didn't mean to do this...remember our truce...what happened? I said I was sorry). If it gets locked, it's probably because you and I are more alike than you care to admit (nice job with the attempted personal attack though...'twas bold!). Doesn't it always seem to be that what you dislike about others is most likely what you dislike about yourself? Psychology 101 - google away my friend.

Let's keep it clean now so we can continue to debate sans moderator interference.

 

[minnie61650]

Muziqal,

I did call a truce.
To your credit you have tried to be more civil in your recent posts.
I have noticed that.
And for the record you did make me cry.
I have always tried to be an honest, moral, friendly person and yes I am a rule follower.
You did hurt me very bad. For two days and nights I was in tears and not sleeping well. I think perhaps some people on the DIS who have come to know me in the last year also saw you hurt me.

Maybe they just felt sorry for me.

You did teach me a lesson (kinda harsh about it but I did learn a lesson).

I am not a good debater and if I think there is even a slight possibility I may be wrong I will back down.

Therefore I have learned to try to just stick with facts.

Peace

 

[minnie61650]

Just wanted to add emotions have run kinda high on thread and I am hoping we can get past some of the unkind things that were said.

I know I was over emotional but that is just the way I am. I am a very sensitive person.
I am sorry.
I did not mean to cause any bitterness or arguments.

Peace

 

[minnie61650]

Oh, oh...wait for it...we got a biter...



As for big word usage, dictionary.com tells me that the word you were looking for was hypOcrite (as for typos, the 'e' and the 'o' are on opposite sides of the keyboard...). Please do explain the reference though. I'm having trouble finding the hypocritical offense in my post?

Sorry, Muziqal I also looked up the word and this is the definition I copied:

Main Entry: hy·per·crit·i·cal
Function: adjective
Pronunciation: -'kri-ti-k&l
: meticulously or excessively critical
synonym see CRITICAL
- hy·per·crit·i·cal·ly/-k(&-)le/ adverb

I do think that was the word and the meaning she was looking for. JMHO


Peace

 

[Muziqal]

Sorry, Muziqal I also looked up the word and this is the definition I copied:

Main Entry: hy·per·crit·i·cal
Function: adjective
Pronunciation: -'kri-ti-k&l
: meticulously or excessively critical
synonym see CRITICAL
- hy·per·crit·i·cal·ly/-k(&-)le/ adverb

I do think that was the word and the meaning she was looking for. JMHO


Peace

I stand corrected! See, I can admit when I'm wrong too!

But just on this point...

What can I say, it was late and my eyes were buggin'.

 

[DisneyDotty]

OP here--Mods--please close this thread. Thanks.