Humanely raised meet?

[lizabu]

It is not only about how the animals are killed also about how they are raised (free range vs cages etc). But there are def different circumstance how the animals are killed, look at the pictures from the slaughter houses they have just closed in Belgium, the animals were being abused before being killed, totally unnecessary. Some religious ways of slaughtering also forbid the animals to get anethesia. So there is for sure a difference in the way animals are slaughtered and I think everyone wishes it to be as painless and quick as possible. But I guess it will be difficult to find out where the meat is coming from on a cruise, thereby I also think that not many people ask about it so companies get away with serving the cheaper meat and after all they want to make money.

I saw in a blog that you could indicate if you wanted to eat vegetarian or vegan but haven't seen it when I did the online check-in.

It might be fairly new. I didn’t see the option my last cruise but I have a cruise coming up in February and can see the options under “special requests”

 

[peter11435]

Thats for parks that stay put. Cruise ships are a whole different canf of worms.

You obviously didn't read the article. The first sentence states its for the parks and cruise line.

 

[phinz]

I know they don't crack eggs one by one open when they use eggs to cook. they come in huge milk cartons ready for use.

I can concur on this. When I was in the Palo kitchen we were told that their eggs come already separated for use in pastries, etc. They do keep regular eggs on board, but the vast majority of the eggs are prepackaged for mass consumption.

 

[SteveMP]

You obviously didn't read the article. The first sentence states its for the parks and cruise line.

Meh, title reads "
Walt Disney Parks To Only Use Cage-Free Eggs"

I guess they could do it (at least in good faith) for whats onboard as they debark a US port...when they restock in all the other ports though, i guess the OP stops eating eggs.

 

[Shanti]

Humane slaughter. That just doesn't make sense. You cannot kill someone that doesn't want to be killed and call it humane.

Those animals would never live at all if they weren't being bred and raised for slaughter.

 

[MM123]

@lizabu, yes, that is what I saw. But didn't see it when I filled in all the details. Where did you find it?

 

[peter11435]

Meh, title reads "
Walt Disney Parks To Only Use Cage-Free Eggs"

I guess they could do it (at least in good faith) for whats onboard as they debark a US port...when they restock in all the other ports though, i guess the OP stops eating eggs.

The title is referring to Walt Disney parks and resorts which DCL is a part of. The article mentions DCL specifically several times including some of the various ports they sail out of. Cage free eggs are not harder to come by when sailing out of foreign parts. In fact for many parts of the world they are more prevalent.

 

[SteveMP]

The title is referring to Walt Disney parks and resorts which DCL is a part of. The article mentions DCL specifically several times including some of the various ports they sail out of. Cage free eggs are not harder to come by when sailing out of foreign parts. In fact for most parts of the world they are more prevalent.

Hey, if you can promise the OP she will only be eating a highly subjective "cage free egg" while visiting various 3rd world countries, more power to you!

 

[peter11435]

Hey, if you can promise the OP she will only be eating a highly subjective "cage free egg" while visiting various 3rd world countries, more power to you!

I never claimed to be able to to that. I simply posted an article (you didn't read) that stated the company vowed to use only cage free eggs.

Also the majority of their food comes on board in their home ports (canaveral, Vancouver, Dover, Galveston, Etc) not in the 3rd world ports of call.

 

[marcyleecorgan]

This is an offshore operation, so no, I don't think it's likely you'll even get that detailed info, let alone them actually using only humanely harvested meat/eggs. Their own employees aren't even "free range"- do you know how small worker quarters are on cruise ships?

I won't "like" ... but OH MY I needed that giggle this morning!!!!

I can concur on this. When I was in the Palo kitchen we were told that their eggs come already separated for use in pastries, etc. They do keep regular eggs on board, but the vast majority of the eggs are prepackaged for mass consumption.

Well, technically, re-constituted liquid egg product in a can IS cage-free! Also shell-free, too!

 

[Anchors Away 2016]

Those animals would never live at all if they weren't being bred and raised for slaughter.

My teen-aged son explained to me that what all animals "want" is to survive and multiply. He therefore concluded that for an animal to become desirable to mankind (for food, burden, luxury or otherwise) is an EXCELLENT adaptation and survival strategy, even if they are killed for food. (Food animals are among the most numerous species on the planet.)

I'm not rendering judgement either way, but I thought it was a very interesting alternative to our more anthropomorphized ideas of what animals "want" or would consider "cruel."

Edited to Add: I don't mean to offend the original poster or anyone else. I am perfectly fine with them trying to only eat animals raised/killed a certain way. I understand why that could be appealing.

 

[DCLDVC1]

Those animals would never live at all if they weren't being bred and raised for slaughter.

Exactly. Those animals are also generally killed in a more humane manner than a wild animal.

 

[AquaDame]

A few of these responses are toeing the line on being argumentative with each other... lets be nice, ok?

OP, if you want a real answer you will want to ask them when you are onboard. They bring supplies aboard in so many places it would be hard to answer with certainty beforehand. Mention to your server you have reservations about your food and they should be able to go over everything with you when you are there and see how they can accommodate.

I will add that for anyone looking to eat humanely cage-free is often not enough. At home we choose to pay for pasture raised and participate in an egg club that gets them from small local farms that treat their chickens the way we feel they should be treated. IMO, the eggs are much tastier.

 

[cmwade77]

I know this is a joke but brings up the topic of the workers who have to pick the vegetables in oftentimes inhumane environments and working conditions.

Actually, scientists have done studies and apparently plants can feel pain, not sure how that can be studied, but:
https://www.pri.org/stories/2014-01...may-forever-change-how-you-think-about-plants

 

[MM123]

I don't know if Anchor's son makes a joke but I think what he says counts more for humans, but there is protection for them so they don't have to have baby after baby. My friend is a milk farmer and to let the cows keep on giving milk the cows need to be pregnant every so many months (don't know what is the age of the son maybe he is too young to realise this). The cows are getting artificially inseminated to force them to get pregnant. Directly after the calf is born it is taken away from the mother so the calf doesn't drink the milk, some cows cry for days. No it is not what they want, it is what the farmer needs to do to get milk for all the humans. If the cows are getting old she sends them away to get slaughtered just so they don't have to suffer anymore through another pregnancy that is apparently very heavy on a cow (like on most humans).

I am surprised how people respond to a serious subject like this but seriously answer a question from somebody asking if there are enough US citizens on a certain cruise. Thanks for saying something about it AquaDame.

 

[lizabu]

@lizabu, yes, that is what I saw. But didn't see it when I filled in all the details. Where did you find it?

Where it says “special requests” click on add and it will take you to the screen I posted previously

 

[SteveMP]

Actually, scientists have done studies and apparently plants can feel pain, not sure how that can be studied, but:
https://www.pri.org/stories/2014-01...may-forever-change-how-you-think-about-plants

I always take self-report studies about vegetable feelings with a grain of salt, Which is also how I take my vegetables.

 

[MM123]

Thanks Lizabu! The blue 'button' add is missing after 'special requests' on that page (as is change dining). Probably not possible anymore since sailing is in 5 weeks.

 

[Anchors Away 2016]

I don't know if Anchor's son makes a joke but I think what he says counts more for humans, but there is protection for them so they don't have to have baby after baby. My friend is a milk farmer and to let the cows keep on giving milk the cows need to be pregnant every so many months (don't know what is the age of the son maybe he is too young to realise this). The cows are getting artificially inseminated to force them to get pregnant. Directly after the calf is born it is taken away from the mother so the calf doesn't drink the milk, some cows cry for days. No it is not what they want, it is what the farmer needs to do to get milk for all the humans. If the cows are getting old she sends them away to get slaughtered just so they don't have to suffer anymore through another pregnancy that is apparently very heavy on a cow (like on most humans).

I am surprised how people respond to a serious subject like this but seriously answer a question from somebody asking if there are enough US citizens on a certain cruise. Thanks for saying something about it AquaDame.

He is being quite serious. He is 16 and quite aware of what you are saying and how livestock are treated. His point is that animals are NOT people. We want to treat animals more "humanely" and that is great. We are humans. We wish to be "kind" to animals, which means different things to different people. But animals are trying to survive and propagate. (I hope you aren't implying that this is all that humans wish to do.) His point is that cows do that quite well thanks to human intervention, even if we may not like the way it is managed. Some of us think of animals as if they were "people," but they are not people. Don't get me wrong. He LOVES animals. He wants to make a career out of studying them (in the wild, actually) and helping them, but he thinks of them differently than he thinks of people.

But I think we are getting too far off the original topic. I will stop now. I only wished to share a different perspective from the one originally offered.

 

[hanscarlet]

I just started to read more on the topic. I am not a vegetarian nor do I wish to be and I'm not really a crunchy person generally.... however I do care about the circumstances of animals and how they are treated and if you read up on the topic more you can find that some animals are treated terribly when they don't need to be, if enough of the public took a position on it.

To the OP - I don't think Disney is "there" yet with a more progressive stance on the food on the boat because, like PP mentioned, operationally they need to stock up in international ports and it's too difficult and expensive to manage the list of food vendors in this regard (would be my guess).... but I applaud your question in a sincere way and not snarky way . Thanks for asking it .