HUGE announcement from Universal

Oh, and we bought our tickets for Universal for about $100... which gives us 7 day unlimited access to both parks.

So for us in the UK, it's really nothing new! :)
 
I think that's a great idea, and v smart of USF to di it. I was only to USF once. me, DH, and DD 12 quite happilly spent 2 days in each USF park. (DD and I did feel a few WDW *pangs* though... we really love WDW~ DH on the other hand was much better entertained at IOA. I will never forget the look on my 40 y old Dh's face when he met Spidey, his fave superhero. Nothing could ever replace that for him :goodvibes :wizard:
 
I actually really like Universal and Islands of adventure, and obviously I don't think anyone would be spending 7 days there but even spending 2 days there would be worth it.
 

Finally an offer I'd be able to use if I wanted to. Though the BOGO with kids tickets was a nice offer, those of us with kids over the age of 10 couldn't get a decent discount. If this is available next year, I may finally be able to justify a US/IOA stay; once all the bells and whistles were added to my stays they always came out to $1900+ for two nights. Not going to spend that when I can stay CL at WDW for the two nights for half of that.
We always enjoyed our visits to US/IOA, it is just too expensive to add as a side trip once you add FOTL, etc.
 
This is not a good offer for me. I like Universal Studios, but only want 1 day there. I do not like IOA, because I don't enjoy getting wet or soaked on rides. Also we don't like "Thrill Rides". I want to do US with my family, but next year when the kids are 10 it would cost me close to $300 for one day. Until I see a special with their one day admission, I won't be going.
 
I wouldn't go if it were free. Just not a fan.

Maybe if they paid me..... I don't know -- even then, it would be a day away from/off of Disney property.
 
flortlebap said:
For Universal, it's offering cut price tickets to what can only be described as a cut price theme park...

I don't understand this.

Disney cuts their prices on resorts, and there's thousands of little :cheer2: and :banana: and :dance3: smileys. Likewise when they offer free dining.

Universal, rather than cutting resort rates, cuts admission rates and they're desperate, and are attempting to sell a cut price theme park?

Why does discounting have anything to do with the product that's being offered? I bought a shirt on sale. Doesn't mean it's cheap quality - it means they were offering a discount on it.

Like I said - different strokes for different folks. I realize that there's lots of people who just don't like Universal Studios. But I don't think calling it a "cut price theme park" is in any way justified.

And I think it's WONDERFUL that you can get great ticket prices in the UK. There's a LOT of rewards for you folks because you're already spending a great deal of money on your airfare, as well as your accomodations. We here in the States don't get those kind of deals - so when they offer something, it is a great deal bigger than it is to UK residents as well as residents of other European countries.
 
FayeW said:
The one big flaw in your math is that you don't HAVE to buy the Express Plus feature, that is entirely optional! Depending on the time of year that you go, it isn't required. We have been there the last week of October, and the 2nd week of December, and pretty much walked on everything with little or no wait. If you go during a peak time, you have the option of staying onsite for FOTL access, so you don't actually have to spend the additional $420 unless youi want to!

You're right, you don't have to buy the Express Plus. Just get up for parks opening, charge round once there and hopefully get everything you want done before the crowds show up. Or you could go at your leisure and watch FOTL people get loaded onto rides at a rate of four to one.

My maths also stated "at least". My guess is during Peak Season, Express Pass is essential, so knock that costing up to $1400 for the seven days of Express Plus Passes. As for stopping on site for "free" passes, just a quick look at our holiday brochure for January next year would put us around $2800 more to stop on-site at Universal rather than the Marriott Village.

Both Disney and Universal, and just about every large corporation, always make things look quite a good deal, but underneath the veneer, things never look as good as they seem.

(PS. Been to Universal. I liked it.)
 
CHILDREN!!!

If you can't play nice please quit playing!!!!


Personally, I am not a Universal fan. I aslo don't think that the way to show "Disney Sprit" is to be hateful..... If you don't like it DON'T GO!!! No one is FORCING YOU TOO....
 
I have friends who could take or leave Disney...but go to US/IOA every year.

My DH much prefers US/IOA, but it doesn't make sense for us to go until our kids are tall enough to ride more of their rides.

Great deal, though! :)
 
flortlebap said:
There are some MAJOR differences between the two, though.

10 years ago, before AK opened and when IOA had just opened, I honestly loved both places. Universal had kept with the times, and IOA was a brand new, fantastically themed park for thrill seekers and children alike.

Unfortunately, they are not now quite so cutting edge. Disney move with the times, they update, keep old attractions looking new etc. Take for example when we last saw BTTF, the theatre was dirty, the ride was rusty, the film was terrible quality and actually looked damaged. And you can see every other simulator car in there (and granted, I know it's going now).

Everything in Universal seems to be so... old! Up until a couple of years ago, Kong was still there, Earthquake, Jaws, ET, BTTF - all 80s films that kids today won't have a clue about. And the rides looked in desperate need of repair. Even the more recent ones like Twister are already dated, because they're films that have completely lost their success. They're not classics, which is why Disney can get away with having older themed movies - because they're timeless! Men in Black and the Mummy were great additions, though. But even the MIB ride is a mimic of Buzz at Disney...

Plus you're all forgetting one more thing - Disney have 6 theme parks, golf courses, shopping complexes... etc etc. Universal have 2, and a brief strip of bars, restuarants and shops in between. There is MUCH more to see and do at Disney, and they KNOW they're monopolising the market. Universal and IOA remain empty in comparison - so when Disney are offering great deals, it's to keep people coming back and enjoying themselves, and making life easier for them with free dining and transportation. For Universal, it's offering cut price tickets to what can only be described as a cut price theme park...

But I do like IOA more than Universal. It wouldn't kill me to miss Universal, but I love some of the rides at IOA. Spiderman is just awe inspiring, there isn't another ride like it. But there are more rides at Disney that strike a chord with me ;)

What new and cutting-edge rides has AK opened in 10 years? EE and what else? IOA still has more attractions since it was built completely from the start. Also, what has MGM added to make it a more complete park than Universal? Rock'n'Roller coaster and a stunt show?

Universal has totally redefined itself the past 10 years, new attractions are everywhere, so I dont understand that comment. The Mummy, Jimmy Neutron, Shrek, MIB, Curious George Play Area, Fear Factor Live are all recently added attractions. MIB is a much higher quality ride than Buzz, thats obvious.

Where are Disney's 6 theme parks? Last time I checked they had 4
 
flortlebap said:
Are you missing something? You can do both Universal and IOA in a day and a half, tops. And there's not much you'd want to go back and see, either.

Plus it's not that good. We're going to both on our 14 day trip, although I must admit I'm not sure why.

It smacks of desperation to me!!
What a bit like free dining :rotfl2:
 
SnackyStacky said:
Besides - what difference does it make if you can see it all in less than 7 days? You're now able to get in for LESS than what you used to pay for a 2 day ticket.
ITA. So it's not a seven-day park. So what? With the opportunity to visit either or both parks whenever you want within that seven-day period (and even if it's consecutive days, which is likely although the link didn't work for me :() it means if you want to go for a few hours one day and ride Dueling Dragons, or you just want to have dinner at Mythos, or the kids want to just ride Pteranadon Flyers, where the line is always WAY too long for a normal park-touring day - you can do that.
Dznefreek said:
Toon Lagoon:
Dudley Do Right's Rip saw Falls (like Spalsh)
Eh, more like Splash on steroids, but, yeah, okay :teeth:
Gonz of Lancashire said:
Don't forget to add the Express Plus tickets on top too, which for seven days would be around $420 for the four of us.
But now you don't NEED the Express Plus pass. Wait's too long? Come back later, or tomorrow, or three days from now.
blondeheroine said:
I'm not saying Universal is horrible, but if they want to give us discounts, don't expect us to stay in the parks for 7 days in order to get those discounts
I missed something somewhere. Where does it indicate anybody's got to stay in (I'm guessing this means visit?) USF and IOA for seven days to get whatever discounts? Just TWO days' entry into one or both parks drops the per-day cost of the ticket to $42.50.
Gonz of Lancashire said:
You're right, you don't have to buy the Express Plus. Just get up for parks opening, charge round once there and hopefully get everything you want done before the crowds show up. Or you could go at your leisure and watch FOTL people get loaded onto rides at a rate of four to one.
You've got seven days. Except during the ABSOLUTE busiest times (primarily school-year vacations), not every day during a given week is going to be so busy that Express Plus is necessary; not to mention, since you've got the seven days, if you have to wait an hour for an attraction, well, you can skip something else that day and see it tomorrow. After all - it's a vacation, we're supposed to relax ;)
 
The difference is, Universal HAVE to promote the parks to get people going. Otherwise, they're empty (as seen in Sept 2004 when we had the park to ourselves). Disney on the other hand was packed. They don't NEED to offer cut price admissions because they know people will keep going back, and I daresay there would be even fewer visitors to Universal if it wasn't for IOA...

And Disney have 6 parks - 4 theme parks and 2 water parks. I thought that one was obvious... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
flortlebap said:
The difference is, Universal HAVE to promote the parks to get people going. Otherwise, they're empty (as seen in Sept 2004 when we had the park to ourselves). Disney on the other hand was packed. They don't NEED to offer cut price admissions because they know people will keep going back, and I daresay there would be even fewer visitors to Universal if it wasn't for IOA...

And Disney have 6 parks - 4 theme parks and 2 water parks. I thought that one was obvious... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

WDW is never 'packed' in September.
 
I have been going to both Disney and Universal at least once a year every year for 15 years running. In that time, I have watched the trends at both parks carefully.

On my first trip, in August 1990, Disney was immaculate. Every bathroom was sterile enough to perform surgery (because there was one CM on duty per bathroom from open to close), there was never any trash on the streets (because there was an army of janitorial CMs wandering the parks), and every CM seemed to truly love their job and performed every task with a smile - I never saw even a less-than-outstanding performance from a CM, much less a poor performance.

During that same trip, Universal was still brand new, so it was still very clean and well maintained, and the TMs were excellent, though not as happy and jovial as Disney CMs. Bathroom cleanliness was less than Disney, but not terrible; certainly, Universal was far and away better than any amusement park I had ever seen except WDW. The biggest problems in those early years were ride downtime, because Jaws and Kong had been rushed to completion and broke down a lot.

Over the next 10 years, Universal's ride downtime decreased, but their TM performance went down a bit after the initial 2 or 3 years and the bathrooms got dirtier. Meanwhile, Disney maintained the same level of quality, cleanliness, and performance as always. It is during this period that Universal got the reputation as a "second-rate park". In every respect, Uni was inferior to Disney, but still a great experience and still far and away better than any other amusement park I visited.

However, 9/11 changed things dramatically. The tourism industry had already been somewhat depressed over the summer of 2001, but 9/11 put a huge depression on tourism throughout the US, and both Disney and Uni felt the hit, hard. Disney's response was to cut costs; they laid off thousands of janitorial and maintenance CMs, stretched maintenance budgets to the breaking point, and made a dramatic shift from full-time to part-time CMs, as well as raising prices and cutting perks. The Disney Club went bye-bye, gate prices went up, Annual Pass discounts shrunk, and Early Entry Surprise Mornings were replaced with the laughable Character Caravan. The parks got dirtier, paint faded, railings rusted, concrete cracked, and the bathrooms steadily turned from operating theaters to cesspools. This trend hit its zenith during my December 2003 trip, when I did not see a single bathroom in any of the 4 parks that was less than disgustingly filthy - worse than any Uni bathroom I had ever seen.

Universal, meanwhile, responded by improving their park experience. The bathrooms got cleaner, the TMs got friendlier, the parks got fresh coats of paint here and there, and they continued their aggressive pricing. For years Uni had offered a second-day-free deal, but following the opening of IOA they went with cheap multi-day passes instead. This trend has continued; my last trip to Uni, in December 2005, was the best experience I ever had there; every TM I encountered was friendly and happy, every bathroom I used was completely clean (not surgically clean, but darn close), and the parks were both clean, bright, scrubbed, and had no fading paint or stained carpet or cracked concrete. In addition, Uni's Annual Pass, priced at about $170, gives way better discounts than Disney's, including 20% off all merchandise in the in-park shops (including an addition 20% off all items that are already on sale! Who does that? Certainly not WDW!), and 20% off at all of the counter-service food places (Disney never had any kind of a program that offered discounts on counter-service food), discounts at the Uni resorts, and discounts on regular passes for the Passholder's friends. Uni even does bag checks better than Disney, by having a single bag check line at the main junction between the two parking structures, so that those who park hop don't have to sit through another bag check to get into the other park, and CityWalk is protected by the bag check in the process.

So don't tell me that Uni is dirty, cause I've been there a lot, and it ain't. And don't tell me that Uni TMs are inferior in any way to Disney CMs, cause I've dealt with hundreds of them, and they ain't. And don't tell me that Uni doesn't have theming, rides, shows, and resorts that are the equal of everything Disney has, cause I've visited every resort at both, I've ridden the rides, and I've seen the shows, and it just ain't so.

As with any comparison, there are individual areas where Disney beats the pants off Uni, and there are individual areas where Uni beats the pants off Disney, but for the most part, the two are pretty close to equal.

BTW, that 7 consecutive days is basically like a 7-day Annual Pass. You don't have to go all 7 days, but you have 7 days where you can go as much or as little as you want, which gives you complete freedom in your schedule to change plans on a whim, or enter the parks for partial days without feeling like you've wasted a day's admission.
 
I have enjoyed Universal in the past, in fact I was a passholder for 4 years. I didn't, however, renew my pass because I just didn't find myself visiting the parks more than once or twice a year, despite living 10 minutes from their parking garage. IMO, for someone who has never visited, Universal/IOA can be fully experienced in less than 2 days unless you are going during the peak of peak season. After that, well, there are just so many times you can ride MIB in a day.

As far as Disney offers being great marketing and Universal offers being "desperation" or whatever, my take is that Disney made a great marketing decision to maximize the amount of time people stay on property with the MYW tickets and DME. It was genius to create a "captive audience" and provide them with the additional days of park admission at virtually no additional cost that make it a budgetary stretch to venture off Disney property to visit the other area attractions. I do not see Universal's new ticket offers as a desperate attempt to bring people in but I do see this, as well as their previous unlimited dining offers, as a response to Disney's prior offers and the impact I suspect it had on attendance.

Ultimately, for a 1-2 day experience, I think Universal is great with many things to offer. However, as a 7-day destination, they just cannot compete with Disney purely because of scale and scope. Universal does inspire many passionate fans as demonstrated on this thread, but at the moment most families still don't consider them the primary attraction when visiting Orlando.

Oh...and one last comment...remember that this is a Disney theme park planning forum. Expect people to be Passionate about Disney on this particular forum and not greatly excited about Universal offers. For a better response, the Universal forums on this site would probably be the place for this discussion. Neither is right or wrong, just a reminder of your audience.
 
You know folks, there is no reason why this has to be a competition. The OP told us about a GREAT deal, for those of us who love US/IOA. If you DON'T like the Universal parks, THAT'S OKAY! If you've never been, and don't want to leave WDW property or miss a minute of valuable park time, THAT'S OKAY! Nobody is asking you to, as a matter of fact, we'd all be happier if you didn't go, since it means less crowding when WE go.

We like Disney parks, too. And SeaWorld. Someday, when we have enough time, we will get multipark tickets and try Busch Gardens, too. I personally think since we have to spend a considerable amount of money just to GET to Orlando, we are going to get as much bang for our vacation buck as we can, and see as many of the attractions as we can. I've promised our daughter a trip to Ripleys this time, and maybe next time we will try WonderWorks, and the Outta Control Magic Show, just because it looks cool.

What seems to happen here, is that everytime somebody posts something positive about Universal or Islands of Adventure, the diehard Disney fans jump all over us like we aren't supposed to like anything but Disney. Then we all start defending our choices and preferences. It's just ridiculous.

For us, like many others, a trip to Orlando means that we will visit US/IOA. And THAT'S OKAY!
 


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