Actually I've tried browning the meat first before roasting it in the oven in a cooking bag. Doesn't seem to help. I made a pot roast a few days ago in the crock pot and it came out great--fork tender. I did not brown the meat first. Just put the vegetables in first, then the meat, along with about 2 cups water, one can beef broth, one can tomato soup, and seasonings. It came out perfect! I wonder if the browning actually lost some of the juices when I stuck it with a fork to turn it several times. Perhaps that let the juices out? Also, like I said in one of my earlier posts, it could be the meat, or the way its packaged. I've been told that meat packed on a styrofoam board and shrink wrapped in palstic actually draws moisture out of the meat. The roast I made that came out so good I bought at Target. It was in a vacumn sealed bag with liquid and seasonings, no stryofoam board. Perhaps that's what made it come out so good? Well, whatever...I'm trying the same pot roast today. Have you ever had a recipie come out great once, then you try to do it again and its a flop? You do it the same way, but something goes wrong. Well, lets see if it works this time. I think the "secret" is long, slow cooking. At least 10 hours in the crock pot, preferably 12 hours. I' m intrigued by the coke idea--got to give that one a try!