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I LOVE reading Wedding reprts, great pics, can't wait to hear more!!
How to Get Married In Epcot... and Survive a 12-Day Honeymoon @ WDW!
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lurkyloo
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Yes, I was trying hard to appreciate that, although it wasn't all rides and fun, at least I wasn't at work!OMG - I never even thought of that-er, I mean... I meant to do that!
OK - that was the weird part: We started out planning a regular trip to WDW last year, which meant hours of DIS research and plotting and planning. Then we got engaged, pushed it back, and turned it into a honeymoon. Well suddenly, all that agonizing over regular trip planning was eclipsed by wedding planning, and I basically slapped the honeymoon together at the last minute (ADRs excepted!)
Thanks!!
I'm happy to see you're posting a thread here. I have been happily reading/lurking your TR and PJ on the wedding boards but didn't want to post anything since I am not a bride to be anytime soon.v I don't want to spoil the story for everyone, but your wedding pix were AMAZING. I love, love, love the necklace you wore and am also extremely impressed with how well you stretched the Disney dollar. Congratulations to you and your husband...I bet it still makes you smile to hear him called that
You are so sweet! You should always feel free to post on the Weddings Board ... The people there are so friendly - nobody cares whether you're actually planning a wedding or not!
I am so glad that a little birdie asked you to write a trippie! It is great so far. My dream is to be married somewhere at WDW. The where's and when's have changed a lot over the years. Of course, I first need to get a boyfriendCan't wait to read more!
Who needs a groom when you can have a Quinceañera! It's got everything but the guy...
Yay! Glad you like them!
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Good news: Day Two was action-packed! Unfortunately, it was not picture-packed... I think I have one shot. Ill try to fill in with nominally related images where I can.
We spent the day doing all those things I read about in wedding trip reports and vowed never to do namely, driving off property on a million boring errands. OK, one boring errand, but it took FOREVER! We got our marriage license by mail so we wouldnt have to go find a courthouse, and I shipped a drugstores worth of sunscreen, blister block, etc. so we wouldnt need one of those. But the forgotten Gorillapod put a crimp in our plans...
I slept great on the ugly Sheraton bed and woke up with about two hours before everyone was to descend on the room for the tux fitting. I opened the ginormous box we shipped and sorted the reception items from the ceremony items while nibbling on (OK, scarfing down) the Sheratons Kids Safari Breakfast a steal at only $4.99!
This is what breakfast looks like!
At 10:30 the fellow from Carolyn Allens arrived with tuxes for DF and BM (Best Man does anybody else giggle when they see that abbreviation?). The tuxes had turned out to be a big logistical hassle during the wedding-planning process because our wedding was early on a Monday and the tux warehouse is closed on the weekend our only chance to try them on. When I first called Carolyn Allen, they said that if we had the fitting before noon on Saturday (the earliest we could all be in town to do it), they would still be able to exchange any wrong sizes at the warehouse before it closed on Saturday.
Based on this info, my dad and brother (the Man of Honor, henceforth known alternately as MH and the Disney Hater) decided to rent their tuxes at home and schlep them on the plane so they wouldnt have to spend Friday night in Orlando.
Well when I called Carolyn Allen back a few months later, they had switched their affiliation to the Jims Formalwear network, and the new warehouse is in Georgia and closed all weekend GRRRR! So no matter when we tried on the tuxes and it could have been on Sunday at that point there was nothing we could do but change sleeve and pants hems if CA brought the wrong pieces or our fellas were measured wrong. CA does keep a few tuxedo pieces in stick, but ours were peak lapel jackets, and they only stock notch lapels. Can you imagine the horror if two of our guys had peak and two had notch?!!
Rare, elusive Peak-lapel Tuxedo in its natural habitat
Common Notch-lapel Tuxedo
I thought about using another vendor, but Id heard recent horror stories about After Hours, and the only other provider who delivered couldnt exchange tux pieces over the weekend either. Which is all to say that you can imagine my horror when BM tried on his tux and it looked like he was playing dress-up in his dads clothes. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
A tux that fits
A tux that doesnt fit
Actually, I didnt freak out too much, because at least DFs tux fit great! Apparently the person who measured BM didnt know that you can get jackets in different lengths - in this case we needed short... The size problem wasnt Carolyn Allens fault it just would have been nice to be able to exchange for the correct jacket. The only changes we made were to lengthen all the sleeves and swap out DFs bowtie for a fuller, more James Bond-like model.
After we sent the tuxes off, we sat around for what seemed like an eternity talking about transportation logistics with BM. Everything had been perfectly worked out the week before when we thought BM would have a car. But when he and his wife decided they could get around Orlando just fine in taxis, it threw a monkey wrench in all the plans. For one thing, he had asked me to help him plan a surprise bachelor party for DF that night that involved BM driving DH back to their familys condo in the boonies. I wasnt sure how that was going to work with no car.... So BM spoiled the surprise and we all tried to figure it out. Boooooooooriiiiiiing!!!!
When that was finally resolved to no ones satisfaction except BMs, DF and I finally left the hotel to run errands before my 1pm spa appointment. (Holy crap Ive written this much and Im only at 11am?!). We decided that we really wanted a Gorillapod, despite the cuteness of the table-top tripod our photographers found! So we set off in search of Best Buy, discovering along the way that taking a wrong exit from I-4 can send you miles out of your way. And also that Best Buy is not technically in the Florida Mall. DF did a lot of running in to restaurants/gas stations/etc. to ask for directions while I did a lot of sitting in the car and stewing that it was getting later and later and we were MILES from the spa. At least I remembered to take a picture!
Can you feel my frustration?
Finally we found Best Buy, which was out of Gorillapods except for the display model. DF asked to buy it, which set in motion a series of walkie-talkie calls and negotiations worthy of an FBI investigation. FINALLY we were allowed to buy it, jumped into the O Mobile, and went fwapping off to the Dolphin for my spa appointment. No lunch makes Lurkyloo cranky!
This is what lunch might have looked like!
OK, the Mandara Spa. I was not impressed. The prices are higher than an L.A. spa, the facility is tiny, the amenities ho-hum, and the services I got were lackluster. When I checked in, they told me I could only get the leg wax because the bikini waxer didnt work Saturdays. If they had told me that when I booked, I would have had everything done at Bliss in L.A. before I left. The last thing I wanted was a painful bikini wax the day before my wedding! But there was nothing I could do, so I had to squeeze it in between the rehearsal brunch and my manicure the next day. The girl who did the wax was friendly and chatty, but I discovered afterward that she had missed big patches on my legs and left hard, sticky wax clumps all over. Those took about two days to wash off. Definitely not worth the $100 price tag. I cycled through every possible discount I could think of with the cashier Annual Pass, Disney Visa Card, Automobile Association and then hit on Starwood Preferred Guest for 20% off. She seemed annoyed that Id actually succeeded in getting a discount!
Meanwhile, DF had dropped our ceremony and reception items off at Francks and gone to the barber shop at the Contemporary to get a haircut (which was another so-so job). He got lost coming to pick me up at the Dolphin, so I sat there filling out the postcards we send to Disneys Year of a Million Dreams giveaway every single day (weve been doing it since September 06 and have scored numerous sets of mouse ears and some pins so far!).
And then I got hit on by one of the valets. It took me a while to figure out what was going on because itd been so long since anyone had. Im certain his attentions were due entirely to the low-cut sundress I was wearing. He asked me if I was in town for the convention, so I sweetly explained that I was there to get married. You should have seen him hightail it back to the valet stand! (For the rest of the trip DH would jokingly ask me, So... are you in town for the convention...?)
So finally DF found his way back to the Dolphin and took me to Goodings for an overpriced sandwich (well, everyone says they have high prices, but I live in L.A. so I couldnt tell...). At the Sheraton we discovered free cookies and lemonade next to the gator cage in the lobby (score one for the Sheraton!), so we took those and the overpriced sandwich back to my room and ate on the balcony. I had a tiny slice of time before I needed to start tarting up (as I call it) for our dinner with my side of the family at Olivias at Old Key West. I wanted to use this time for a nap, but DF made me use it to write my vows.
Yes, I am a bad bride. I left my vows until two days before the wedding. I was feeling pressured to come up with something earth-shatteringly original and romantic because I knew itd be captured on video, and the weeks leading up to the wedding were so busy that I never had time to get in the vow-writing mood. We tried to write them together a couple times and came up empty because we felt rushed and uninspired. Plus, I was worried about being original, and DF was worried about being grammatical...ly correct.
Finally we decided to write them separately, and he got his done about a week before. Our pastor sternly told us that they had to be ready for the rehearsal, and here it was the night before with no vows for the bride. So DF took his book and went to read by the pool, and I somehow managed my way through it. I dont think they were terribly original, but at least they came straight from the heart.
Say, I actually have a picture for this part of the story!
After that I started the lengthy tarting process for our dinner with my family.
DF has a huge family 7 aunts and uncles and 20 cousins on his moms side alone. The only family I had at the wedding was my dad, my brother and SIL, my two aunts, and my dads cousin. My other aunt and uncle had to cancel at the last minute, so it was a very small group who met at Olivias that night. So, Ive mentioned that my brother and his wife are Disney haters, but I was still kind of shocked by how grouchy and negative they were at first. Right off the bat they were griping about Disney while the rest of us were just catching up and having a good time. It wasnt terribly original material either Disneys expensive, its fake, etc. DF and I just ignored their comments, and eventually everyone seemed to be enjoying dinner.
After dinner I took DF to Downtown Disney for his swinging bachelor party at Rainforest Café?! This was his BMs idea of a good time. I, on the other hand, got to go to the Adventurers Club to meet MistressOfAllEvil, another DIS bride who was getting married on the same day. Whohoo!
I used the Disney Dining Experience card to get half off admission glad I read the list of benefits, cuz I didnt know about that one! Id never been to the AC before, so I was kind of overwhelmed, but I loved the theming. MistressOfAllEvil spotted me from downstairs and waved me over to where she was hanging out with her Glamorous Amazon Entourage. I am just under 6 feet tall, so I had never known what it was like to feel short til I met MistressOfAllEvil and her sister! I think were all the same height, but they wear HEELS! It was the weirdest feeling, but I also felt really comfortable because she and I had the DIS boards connection and knew so much about each other. Her DF got dragged into a skit by the Maid, who had a field day with the jokes when she found out he was there with two brides (and my DF was nowhere in sight!). Good times!
The Groom's Two Brides
I finally pooped out and went back to my room to pack for my move to Beach Club Villas. I listened to our samba-packed reception playlist as I worked, which was so romantic that I decided to write DF a wedding-eve-eve letter and give it to him during our Valentines Day dinner at Jiko the following week. And then I went to bed!
We spent the day doing all those things I read about in wedding trip reports and vowed never to do namely, driving off property on a million boring errands. OK, one boring errand, but it took FOREVER! We got our marriage license by mail so we wouldnt have to go find a courthouse, and I shipped a drugstores worth of sunscreen, blister block, etc. so we wouldnt need one of those. But the forgotten Gorillapod put a crimp in our plans...
I slept great on the ugly Sheraton bed and woke up with about two hours before everyone was to descend on the room for the tux fitting. I opened the ginormous box we shipped and sorted the reception items from the ceremony items while nibbling on (OK, scarfing down) the Sheratons Kids Safari Breakfast a steal at only $4.99!
This is what breakfast looks like!
At 10:30 the fellow from Carolyn Allens arrived with tuxes for DF and BM (Best Man does anybody else giggle when they see that abbreviation?). The tuxes had turned out to be a big logistical hassle during the wedding-planning process because our wedding was early on a Monday and the tux warehouse is closed on the weekend our only chance to try them on. When I first called Carolyn Allen, they said that if we had the fitting before noon on Saturday (the earliest we could all be in town to do it), they would still be able to exchange any wrong sizes at the warehouse before it closed on Saturday.
Based on this info, my dad and brother (the Man of Honor, henceforth known alternately as MH and the Disney Hater) decided to rent their tuxes at home and schlep them on the plane so they wouldnt have to spend Friday night in Orlando.
Well when I called Carolyn Allen back a few months later, they had switched their affiliation to the Jims Formalwear network, and the new warehouse is in Georgia and closed all weekend GRRRR! So no matter when we tried on the tuxes and it could have been on Sunday at that point there was nothing we could do but change sleeve and pants hems if CA brought the wrong pieces or our fellas were measured wrong. CA does keep a few tuxedo pieces in stick, but ours were peak lapel jackets, and they only stock notch lapels. Can you imagine the horror if two of our guys had peak and two had notch?!!
Rare, elusive Peak-lapel Tuxedo in its natural habitat
Common Notch-lapel Tuxedo
I thought about using another vendor, but Id heard recent horror stories about After Hours, and the only other provider who delivered couldnt exchange tux pieces over the weekend either. Which is all to say that you can imagine my horror when BM tried on his tux and it looked like he was playing dress-up in his dads clothes. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
A tux that fits
A tux that doesnt fit
Actually, I didnt freak out too much, because at least DFs tux fit great! Apparently the person who measured BM didnt know that you can get jackets in different lengths - in this case we needed short... The size problem wasnt Carolyn Allens fault it just would have been nice to be able to exchange for the correct jacket. The only changes we made were to lengthen all the sleeves and swap out DFs bowtie for a fuller, more James Bond-like model.
After we sent the tuxes off, we sat around for what seemed like an eternity talking about transportation logistics with BM. Everything had been perfectly worked out the week before when we thought BM would have a car. But when he and his wife decided they could get around Orlando just fine in taxis, it threw a monkey wrench in all the plans. For one thing, he had asked me to help him plan a surprise bachelor party for DF that night that involved BM driving DH back to their familys condo in the boonies. I wasnt sure how that was going to work with no car.... So BM spoiled the surprise and we all tried to figure it out. Boooooooooriiiiiiing!!!!
When that was finally resolved to no ones satisfaction except BMs, DF and I finally left the hotel to run errands before my 1pm spa appointment. (Holy crap Ive written this much and Im only at 11am?!). We decided that we really wanted a Gorillapod, despite the cuteness of the table-top tripod our photographers found! So we set off in search of Best Buy, discovering along the way that taking a wrong exit from I-4 can send you miles out of your way. And also that Best Buy is not technically in the Florida Mall. DF did a lot of running in to restaurants/gas stations/etc. to ask for directions while I did a lot of sitting in the car and stewing that it was getting later and later and we were MILES from the spa. At least I remembered to take a picture!
Can you feel my frustration?
Finally we found Best Buy, which was out of Gorillapods except for the display model. DF asked to buy it, which set in motion a series of walkie-talkie calls and negotiations worthy of an FBI investigation. FINALLY we were allowed to buy it, jumped into the O Mobile, and went fwapping off to the Dolphin for my spa appointment. No lunch makes Lurkyloo cranky!
This is what lunch might have looked like!
OK, the Mandara Spa. I was not impressed. The prices are higher than an L.A. spa, the facility is tiny, the amenities ho-hum, and the services I got were lackluster. When I checked in, they told me I could only get the leg wax because the bikini waxer didnt work Saturdays. If they had told me that when I booked, I would have had everything done at Bliss in L.A. before I left. The last thing I wanted was a painful bikini wax the day before my wedding! But there was nothing I could do, so I had to squeeze it in between the rehearsal brunch and my manicure the next day. The girl who did the wax was friendly and chatty, but I discovered afterward that she had missed big patches on my legs and left hard, sticky wax clumps all over. Those took about two days to wash off. Definitely not worth the $100 price tag. I cycled through every possible discount I could think of with the cashier Annual Pass, Disney Visa Card, Automobile Association and then hit on Starwood Preferred Guest for 20% off. She seemed annoyed that Id actually succeeded in getting a discount!
Meanwhile, DF had dropped our ceremony and reception items off at Francks and gone to the barber shop at the Contemporary to get a haircut (which was another so-so job). He got lost coming to pick me up at the Dolphin, so I sat there filling out the postcards we send to Disneys Year of a Million Dreams giveaway every single day (weve been doing it since September 06 and have scored numerous sets of mouse ears and some pins so far!).
And then I got hit on by one of the valets. It took me a while to figure out what was going on because itd been so long since anyone had. Im certain his attentions were due entirely to the low-cut sundress I was wearing. He asked me if I was in town for the convention, so I sweetly explained that I was there to get married. You should have seen him hightail it back to the valet stand! (For the rest of the trip DH would jokingly ask me, So... are you in town for the convention...?)
So finally DF found his way back to the Dolphin and took me to Goodings for an overpriced sandwich (well, everyone says they have high prices, but I live in L.A. so I couldnt tell...). At the Sheraton we discovered free cookies and lemonade next to the gator cage in the lobby (score one for the Sheraton!), so we took those and the overpriced sandwich back to my room and ate on the balcony. I had a tiny slice of time before I needed to start tarting up (as I call it) for our dinner with my side of the family at Olivias at Old Key West. I wanted to use this time for a nap, but DF made me use it to write my vows.
Yes, I am a bad bride. I left my vows until two days before the wedding. I was feeling pressured to come up with something earth-shatteringly original and romantic because I knew itd be captured on video, and the weeks leading up to the wedding were so busy that I never had time to get in the vow-writing mood. We tried to write them together a couple times and came up empty because we felt rushed and uninspired. Plus, I was worried about being original, and DF was worried about being grammatical...ly correct.
Finally we decided to write them separately, and he got his done about a week before. Our pastor sternly told us that they had to be ready for the rehearsal, and here it was the night before with no vows for the bride. So DF took his book and went to read by the pool, and I somehow managed my way through it. I dont think they were terribly original, but at least they came straight from the heart.
Say, I actually have a picture for this part of the story!
After that I started the lengthy tarting process for our dinner with my family.
DF has a huge family 7 aunts and uncles and 20 cousins on his moms side alone. The only family I had at the wedding was my dad, my brother and SIL, my two aunts, and my dads cousin. My other aunt and uncle had to cancel at the last minute, so it was a very small group who met at Olivias that night. So, Ive mentioned that my brother and his wife are Disney haters, but I was still kind of shocked by how grouchy and negative they were at first. Right off the bat they were griping about Disney while the rest of us were just catching up and having a good time. It wasnt terribly original material either Disneys expensive, its fake, etc. DF and I just ignored their comments, and eventually everyone seemed to be enjoying dinner.
After dinner I took DF to Downtown Disney for his swinging bachelor party at Rainforest Café?! This was his BMs idea of a good time. I, on the other hand, got to go to the Adventurers Club to meet MistressOfAllEvil, another DIS bride who was getting married on the same day. Whohoo!
I used the Disney Dining Experience card to get half off admission glad I read the list of benefits, cuz I didnt know about that one! Id never been to the AC before, so I was kind of overwhelmed, but I loved the theming. MistressOfAllEvil spotted me from downstairs and waved me over to where she was hanging out with her Glamorous Amazon Entourage. I am just under 6 feet tall, so I had never known what it was like to feel short til I met MistressOfAllEvil and her sister! I think were all the same height, but they wear HEELS! It was the weirdest feeling, but I also felt really comfortable because she and I had the DIS boards connection and knew so much about each other. Her DF got dragged into a skit by the Maid, who had a field day with the jokes when she found out he was there with two brides (and my DF was nowhere in sight!). Good times!
The Groom's Two Brides
I finally pooped out and went back to my room to pack for my move to Beach Club Villas. I listened to our samba-packed reception playlist as I worked, which was so romantic that I decided to write DF a wedding-eve-eve letter and give it to him during our Valentines Day dinner at Jiko the following week. And then I went to bed!
Becx N Gav
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Wow this trip report is fab 
and I love all your pics
You're so lucky getting married in Epcot, we went for the Wilderness Lodge (which I noticed was your first choice) as we only had 8 guests. It was everything we wanted, intimate, great range of choices and of course the cost! But if we ever got our vows renewed I'd love to do it in a park, maybe you could do a vow renewal at Sunrise Terrace
I also sympathise about some of your guests not 'getting' Disney. We put up with a lot of that but I hope it didn't spoil your enjoyment?
Anyway, can't wait to read more, thanks
and I love all your pics You're so lucky getting married in Epcot, we went for the Wilderness Lodge (which I noticed was your first choice) as we only had 8 guests. It was everything we wanted, intimate, great range of choices and of course the cost! But if we ever got our vows renewed I'd love to do it in a park, maybe you could do a vow renewal at Sunrise Terrace
I also sympathise about some of your guests not 'getting' Disney. We put up with a lot of that but I hope it didn't spoil your enjoyment?
Anyway, can't wait to read more, thanks
jeniferjuniper
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Super report, great photos, cant wait to read the rest!
Congratulations
Congratulations
lurkyloo
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I am enjoying your report so far. Can't wait to read more
Aw, thanks!
Wow this trip report is fab
Wow - that is cool! Did you ever do a trippie on your wedding? I'd love to see your pictures. I think that terrace at Wilderness Lodge is one of the most romantic places in WDW!
(And don't think I haven't thought of having a vow renewal there - how cool would THAT be?! )Thanks! I'm glad you're enjoying it!
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I'm about 13 years too late for a quinceanera! I just meant that it's a little hard (and odd) to plan a wedding while you're single (like me).Another great update...looking forward to hearing the rest of the story!
Sleeping*Beauty
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Sorry about the bad wax job. Did you say there was an aligator cage in the lobby??
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OK, ordinarily I would rather eat glass than attempt to read a trip report...much less a wedding report so I don't know what posessed me to even look in this part of the forums !
But I've got to say that reading about your wedding has been a delight. I was hooked from the nickel in the fountain. The pictures are truly spectacular, and it looks like the whole event was like something out of a dream (a good dream). Unbelievable. You make a gorgeous couple & you were simply a stunning bride. Good for you !
Congrats to you both. I hope that there's more!
!But I've got to say that reading about your wedding has been a delight. I was hooked from the nickel in the fountain. The pictures are truly spectacular, and it looks like the whole event was like something out of a dream (a good dream). Unbelievable. You make a gorgeous couple & you were simply a stunning bride. Good for you
!Congrats to you both. I hope that there's more!
SandraVB79
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Another great update...looking forward to hearing the rest of the story!
I'm too old too, but now that I know about it, I'm thinking about it. As long as I pay, I don't think Disney will have too many problems with it, and I look younger than my age
BTW, love the trip report!!!!
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Wow - that is cool! Did you ever do a trippie on your wedding? I'd love to see your pictures. I think that terrace at Wilderness Lodge is one of the most romantic places in WDW!
No never got around to a trip report, but I guess it's never too late
It was such a beautiful setting, the balcony and the grounds, we stayed in a 1 bed villa there too
It was set up so wondefully, considering we went for the basic package ( I think the only extra was another bottle of the Fairy Tale Cuvee) and our coordinator was the best
I just wish we had a larger number of people so we could do a custom (or whatever they're called now, can't keep up with all these changes
) wedding, I kept trying to justify a desert party but as it turned out the Halloween Party was on our wedding night at MK If you pm me I can send you a link to our photos (don't wanna crash your thread
)SandraVB79
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I finally got to see the trip report with pictures, they are beautiful!
BTW, OP, I like the fact that you are taller than your DH, it's good for MY morale! I'm very tall, and boyfriends are always smaller, and people always make fun of me
TALL WOMEN RULE!!!!!!!!
(but I must admit, I do wear heels, even got 3-inch ones!)
BTW, OP, I like the fact that you are taller than your DH, it's good for MY morale! I'm very tall, and boyfriends are always smaller, and people always make fun of me
TALL WOMEN RULE!!!!!!!!
(but I must admit, I do wear heels, even got 3-inch ones!)
momof2boyz12
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Your pictures are fantastic. My hubby and I were married at WDW in 1999 at the Wedding Pavilion. Our reception at the Yacht & Beach Club with about 80guests. Disney does a wonderful job of making an already magical day more magical. I can't wait to read more!
lurkyloo
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I'm too old too, but now that I know about it, I'm thinking about it. As long as I pay, I don't think Disney will have too many problems with it, and I look younger than my age
Ladies, you are NEVER too old for a quinceanera! Quince is just a state of mind!
OMG - if I'd been drinking milk, it woulda shot out my nose - I can TOTALLY picture a gator cage in the lobby of the Mandara Spa!! Unfortunately, this gator cage was in the lobby of the Glamorous Sheraton Safari Inn & Suites 'n' Things....
That is HIGH-larious!
Thank you for the kind words - they mean a lot! I hope you will continue to ignore your better judgment re: trip reports and stick around for more! So sweet! I'm glad you're enjoying it!No never got around to a trip report, but I guess it's never too late
Crash away! If you don't mind posting the link in a public forum, I bet lots of us would love to see your pictures - it's like bonus weddingy goodness! Otherwise, I'll send you that PM
I try...
It used to bother me to see pictures of me looming over him, but then I learned a few tricks to avoid looking like his mommy in photos (never put one arm around their shoulders or stand behind them with your arms around them or kiss them on their bald spot like they're Dopey... )And good for you for wearing heels!
I always figured if it bothered the guy that I was taller, he wasn't for me!Thanks! Now that I've done it myself, I know just how much fun you guys had!
lurkyloo
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Another long day.
I got up at 6am to check out of the Glamorous Sheraton Safari and go pick up my dad, brother, and SIL for the rehearsal in Epcot. I didn’t mind getting up that early because I wanted to practice for getting up at 4am for the wedding the next day. I know that the early ceremony times required for an Epcot wedding (9am, usually) are a deterrent to some people, but the way I see it, surely I can manage to get myself out of bed early on just one day in my entire life in order to experience something that special! (Make that two days if you wanna do the Magic Kingdom bridal portrait session...).
The O Mobile’s windshield kept fogging up on the outside (??) and this was the first time I noticed the tire fwapping, so I crept down the highway. As usual, I got lost, this time on my way to get Mo'H and SIL at All-Star Sports. Once I found them, we went over to Port Orleans French Quarter to get my dad. Meanwhile, DF’s parents were taking him to pick up our officiant at All-Star Music (we flew DF’s childhood pastor out from California to officiate – it was one the best decisions we made!). We were all to meet in the lobby of the Beach Club for our walk to Epcot.
It was so weird to see DF’s parents walk out to meet us in front of the hotel. I got that wonderful comforting feeling you get when you recognize someone familiar in a strange place. It was the first of many times over the trip that my mind boggled to see friends and relatives at WDW. (I know lots of brides go there with their families all the time, but DF and I had only ever been there for our planning session and on one trip apiece when we were in high school.)
Before we set off for the rehearsal, I checked into my room at the Beach Club Villas and checked my luggage with Bell Services. It was so cute – the two women at the check-in desk just beamed when they found out I was getting married in Epcot the next day. I said I knew that check-in for DVC resorts isn’t until 4pm, but if there was any way they could get me a room earlier, I’d be so grateful because I could start setting up my base of wedding operations. They said they’d see what they could do, and they handed me two WDW “Just Married” buttons (I saved them for later).
REHEARSAL
Because we didn’t have any attendants, readers, ushers, etc. for our ceremony, the rehearsal group was small: me & DF, the officiant, the Best Man, the Man of Honor (& SIL), and my dad. We were joined by our videographers, Sage and Wheat (really!!) from Starfruit Productions, at the International Gateway.
The Man o’ Honor transports the bride’s wedding shower bow-quet
A guide escorted us to Morocco to meet our wedding planner and her entourage of assistants. As expected, the rehearsal was run very efficiently. The WP told everyone where to stand and what to do. When the Man of Honor started cracking wise, my WP totally put the smack down – it was fantastic! She was like “[Hater]! Right now I need your attention right here!” [snaps fingers] I wanted to high-five her – it was awesome... There were chairs set up between the fountain and the arch, and we all started out standing in the altar area.
The WP had the pastor explain how the service would go, and then I made a little spiel to the BM and Mo’H about one of my huge pet peeves: I hate it when the groomsmen stand up at the altar facing the audience with their hands clasped below their waists – it looks like they have to go to the bathroom! So I tried to make it abundantly clear that Bridezilla wanted their hands at their sides at all times. (Later I found out that the BM was feeling ill during the ceremony and kept saying to himself, “Don’t throw up, don’t clasp your hands!”)
Next we got to practice walking in. I had been worried about how the songs I picked for the processional would time out, since the distance from the edge of Morocco to the altar area at the arch was about 30 seconds at a normal walking pace. For a while I considered editing the songs down, but I couldn’t cut enough from them. So what we did was start the processional from further back and, in some cases, hold people a bit while the music started. I brought my iPod Shuffle to the rehearsal so I could listen to the songs and figure out where and when we needed to start walking for each one. I got kind of flustered because everyone had to stand around while I found the playlist – you can only go forward or backward, you can’t select songs on a screen – and I’d forgotten to cue it up. But no one seemed to mind waiting, even my WP. It was the first time I had someone tell me, “It’s OK – you’re the bride!”
The road to Morocco – deserted and underexposed...
We decided to time my entrance song with my dad by starting at the altar and walking back out of Morocco to see where we would end up as a starting place. Well, it turned out to be practically to Japan! So we decided to pick a line in the pavement closer to Morocco and just hold me and my dad back until about 30 seconds into the song.
The line!
That was about it for the rehearsal. Sage & Wheat took off and the wedding party walked over to the BoardWalk for brunch at Spoodles with the rest of DF’s family. It wasn’t until later that I realized I’d left the rehearsal without two crucial pieces of information: my WP’s cell number and where we were supposed to meet on the wedding day. (After the honeymoon I discovered the number in an email sent after we’d left for WDW. Unfortunately, this didn’t help me the next day when I was panicking because I didn’t know she wouldn’t be at the hotel on the morning of the wedding...)
REHEARSAL BRUNCH
We did not plan to have any kind of welcome/rehearsal dinner the night before our wedding. This was partly because we’d originally thought doing this kind of event through Disney would count toward our minimums and, when we found out that wasn’t the case, it was an easy thing to cut. But it was mostly because I had an absolute phobia of over-scheduling our guests. Most people were only coming out for 3 or 4 days, and I didn’t want them to feel pressured to attend a bazillion different wedding events when they’d rather be enjoying the parks. (See “No-Pressure, Come-if-You-Want-to Meet ‘n’ Greet,” below.) DF and I planned to have brunch at Spoodles on the BoardWalk after the rehearsal, and when I asked his parents if they’d like to come along, suddenly we had 12 people attending (did I mention DF has a big family?).
It was really nice, though, and an opportunity for my dad and the Haters to meet DF’s immediate family. And the food was really good! I’d heard mixed reviews of Spoodles’ food, but it was very tasty (perhaps proving my theory that it’s impossible to screw up breakfast). Spoodles has one big table that seats something like 15 people, and I didn’t have to call WDW Group Dining to reserve it – I just made a regular ADR. We were ready at 9:30am, and though originally they hadn’t been able to give me a reservation til 9:50am, the table was ready within minutes of our checking in. They also had no trouble splitting the checks up among the group members – at Olivia’s the night before we had to do the thing where everyone throws in more money than they prolly owe ‘cuz no one has change... ugh!
After brunch, I had a message from the room assigner at Beach Club Villas saying they’d found me a room – at 10am! – and it was a really nice one that lots of people request. I was so happy. After brunch, while I was at my appointment, DF went over to the hotel, had my luggage delivered to the room, and set everything up for me – what a sweetie! I took a Friendship boat from the BoardWalk to the Dolphin for Round Two at Mandara Spa. I’ll spare you the gory details on that one... Well, OK, just in case you're curious, I’ll put them here in spoiler mode so nobody loses their lunch: HOLY CRAP WHAT WAS I THINKING?! Somewhere I got the idea that a Brazilian wax was THE honeymoon accessory. I’d had one before, but I must’ve been smoking crack (as we used to say in the ‘90s – what is it now, meth?) because this was THE most painful thing I have ever experienced. And the results were not sexy at all. They were burn-y, sting-y and itchy, and when that subsided they were just plain creepy... Now back to your regularly scheduled trip report!
DF picked me up at the Dolphin and took me to the Yacht and Beach Club for my manicure at Perriwig’s. He was so cute – he insisted on going with me, even though I warned him he’d be bored. The girl who did my nails (Xiomara, I think), was very sweet and did a thorough job. I loved the first color I picked out, but my nails were practically fluorescent, so she went over them with another color and got the perfect shade. We talked about her wedding in Cuba – apparently they invited about 200 people, but so many party crashers showed up they had close to 300 guests! Yikes!
Manicure: Three Days Later
When my nails had cooked in the little, uh, nail oven, DF escorted me up to my room in the Villas wing at the Beach Club. It was SO cool! It was in its own alcove off the elevator lobby, so it was both quiet and convenient. It had lots of drawers and closet space, and a huge balcony overlooking the not-so “quiet” pool. But the best part we didn’t find out about until a few nights into our honeymoon: We were sitting on the balcony eating leftover wedding cake when all of a sudden we discovered we could see the Magic Kingdom’s Pirate & Princess fireworks from our balcony! Very cool...
Note the boxes of Costco waters...
Looking off toward MK
NO-PRESSURE, COME-IF-YOU-WANT-TO MEET ‘N’ GREET
A few weeks before the wedding, we began to agree that – even though we didn’t want to over-schedule them - some of our guests, especially family members, would want to meet and catch up before the wedding. At that point, we didn’t have room in the budget to host a dinner, and we didn’t want to put people through the Dance of a Million Separate Checks, so we settled on a late-afternoon/early-evening meet ‘n’ greet between lunch and dinner. We encouraged people to drop in when they wanted or not drop in at all, if they had plans already. As it turns out, several groups made their own dinner plans for after the meet ‘n’ greet, so it worked out really nicely.
What we didn’t know was where to hold it. I got the idea from another bride to have everyone meet in the Solarium at Beach Club Villas. It looked great in pictures and seemed large enough to host our event.
The Solarium
However, two weeks before the wedding, I found out that the Beach Club was probably going to show the Super Bowl in the Solarium on the day of our meet ‘n’ greet – imagine the nerve, scheduling the Super Bowl for the day of our meet ‘n’ greet!
I freaked out, posted all over, got tons of great suggestions. In the end, because I was cracked on the idea of meeting at the Beach Club, we used its other common room, the Drawing Room, and it turned out to be PERFECT! Unlike the Solarium, it is enclosed and has only one door, so it was like we had our own private room. We must’ve had 15-20 people there – mostly just family members – and we ended up rearranging all the furniture in a big circle as more people showed up. DF got a little twitchy about this. He kept saying, “Maybe we should arrange conversational groupings!” It did look a little like an AA meeting, I guess...
That’s OK, I got twitchy when my FMIL announced she was going to be taking pictures at the reception. She is a shutterbug and has her camera going constantly at every gathering. We’d had a conversation with her months before about how we were hiring professional photographers and we wanted her to just enjoy our wedding from in *front* of a camera. So when she said that I got kinda worked up and made a fool of myself, pouting that I was the bride and I wanted to control the photos of our wedding day and I didn’t care if it made me Bridezilla! (Imagine my dismay when, on the wedding day, I found that FMIL was the only guest who didn’t have a camera – d’oh! In fact, this is probably totally out of line, but I wish I had told guests they weren’t allowed to bring cameras into Epcot – hee hee!)
The Drawing Room
After the meet ‘n’ greet, our pastor suggested we all go to Cape May for dinner. I felt guilty about bowing out, but DF and I each wanted to have a mellow, early night, and I still had lots to unpack. We went up to my room and tried to order room service, but the wait was like 90 minutes – prolly cuz of the Super Bowl. Curses – foiled again! We decided to hit Beaches & Cream, which meant walking right by the open seating area at Cape May where our family and friends were eating – we tried to sneak past so no one would see us.
Beaches & Cream hit the spot! I made a half-hearted attempt to eat light by ordering the chicken sandwich, but it was pretty greasy… greasily delicious! And I felt like a rebel for ordering a (kids’) sundae the night before my wedding – take that, BRIDES magazine!
Yes, that’s extra peanut butter sauce in the background
After dinner DF said goodnight and went off to bunk with his cousin (the one who introduced us!) at the Contemporary, and I began a lengthy series of beauty preparations. I washed and straightened my hair with the blow dryer so I wouldn't have to do that in the morning. I gave myself a crappy pedicure (meh – I hadn’t brought any sandals) and hit the rack around 11:30 – not good when you have a 4 am wake-up call!
I got up at 6am to check out of the Glamorous Sheraton Safari and go pick up my dad, brother, and SIL for the rehearsal in Epcot. I didn’t mind getting up that early because I wanted to practice for getting up at 4am for the wedding the next day. I know that the early ceremony times required for an Epcot wedding (9am, usually) are a deterrent to some people, but the way I see it, surely I can manage to get myself out of bed early on just one day in my entire life in order to experience something that special! (Make that two days if you wanna do the Magic Kingdom bridal portrait session...).
The O Mobile’s windshield kept fogging up on the outside (??) and this was the first time I noticed the tire fwapping, so I crept down the highway. As usual, I got lost, this time on my way to get Mo'H and SIL at All-Star Sports. Once I found them, we went over to Port Orleans French Quarter to get my dad. Meanwhile, DF’s parents were taking him to pick up our officiant at All-Star Music (we flew DF’s childhood pastor out from California to officiate – it was one the best decisions we made!). We were all to meet in the lobby of the Beach Club for our walk to Epcot.
It was so weird to see DF’s parents walk out to meet us in front of the hotel. I got that wonderful comforting feeling you get when you recognize someone familiar in a strange place. It was the first of many times over the trip that my mind boggled to see friends and relatives at WDW. (I know lots of brides go there with their families all the time, but DF and I had only ever been there for our planning session and on one trip apiece when we were in high school.)
Before we set off for the rehearsal, I checked into my room at the Beach Club Villas and checked my luggage with Bell Services. It was so cute – the two women at the check-in desk just beamed when they found out I was getting married in Epcot the next day. I said I knew that check-in for DVC resorts isn’t until 4pm, but if there was any way they could get me a room earlier, I’d be so grateful because I could start setting up my base of wedding operations. They said they’d see what they could do, and they handed me two WDW “Just Married” buttons (I saved them for later).
REHEARSAL
Because we didn’t have any attendants, readers, ushers, etc. for our ceremony, the rehearsal group was small: me & DF, the officiant, the Best Man, the Man of Honor (& SIL), and my dad. We were joined by our videographers, Sage and Wheat (really!!) from Starfruit Productions, at the International Gateway.
The Man o’ Honor transports the bride’s wedding shower bow-quet
A guide escorted us to Morocco to meet our wedding planner and her entourage of assistants. As expected, the rehearsal was run very efficiently. The WP told everyone where to stand and what to do. When the Man of Honor started cracking wise, my WP totally put the smack down – it was fantastic! She was like “[Hater]! Right now I need your attention right here!” [snaps fingers] I wanted to high-five her – it was awesome... There were chairs set up between the fountain and the arch, and we all started out standing in the altar area.
The WP had the pastor explain how the service would go, and then I made a little spiel to the BM and Mo’H about one of my huge pet peeves: I hate it when the groomsmen stand up at the altar facing the audience with their hands clasped below their waists – it looks like they have to go to the bathroom! So I tried to make it abundantly clear that Bridezilla wanted their hands at their sides at all times. (Later I found out that the BM was feeling ill during the ceremony and kept saying to himself, “Don’t throw up, don’t clasp your hands!”)
Next we got to practice walking in. I had been worried about how the songs I picked for the processional would time out, since the distance from the edge of Morocco to the altar area at the arch was about 30 seconds at a normal walking pace. For a while I considered editing the songs down, but I couldn’t cut enough from them. So what we did was start the processional from further back and, in some cases, hold people a bit while the music started. I brought my iPod Shuffle to the rehearsal so I could listen to the songs and figure out where and when we needed to start walking for each one. I got kind of flustered because everyone had to stand around while I found the playlist – you can only go forward or backward, you can’t select songs on a screen – and I’d forgotten to cue it up. But no one seemed to mind waiting, even my WP. It was the first time I had someone tell me, “It’s OK – you’re the bride!”
The road to Morocco – deserted and underexposed...
We decided to time my entrance song with my dad by starting at the altar and walking back out of Morocco to see where we would end up as a starting place. Well, it turned out to be practically to Japan! So we decided to pick a line in the pavement closer to Morocco and just hold me and my dad back until about 30 seconds into the song.
The line!
That was about it for the rehearsal. Sage & Wheat took off and the wedding party walked over to the BoardWalk for brunch at Spoodles with the rest of DF’s family. It wasn’t until later that I realized I’d left the rehearsal without two crucial pieces of information: my WP’s cell number and where we were supposed to meet on the wedding day. (After the honeymoon I discovered the number in an email sent after we’d left for WDW. Unfortunately, this didn’t help me the next day when I was panicking because I didn’t know she wouldn’t be at the hotel on the morning of the wedding...)
REHEARSAL BRUNCH
We did not plan to have any kind of welcome/rehearsal dinner the night before our wedding. This was partly because we’d originally thought doing this kind of event through Disney would count toward our minimums and, when we found out that wasn’t the case, it was an easy thing to cut. But it was mostly because I had an absolute phobia of over-scheduling our guests. Most people were only coming out for 3 or 4 days, and I didn’t want them to feel pressured to attend a bazillion different wedding events when they’d rather be enjoying the parks. (See “No-Pressure, Come-if-You-Want-to Meet ‘n’ Greet,” below.) DF and I planned to have brunch at Spoodles on the BoardWalk after the rehearsal, and when I asked his parents if they’d like to come along, suddenly we had 12 people attending (did I mention DF has a big family?).
It was really nice, though, and an opportunity for my dad and the Haters to meet DF’s immediate family. And the food was really good! I’d heard mixed reviews of Spoodles’ food, but it was very tasty (perhaps proving my theory that it’s impossible to screw up breakfast). Spoodles has one big table that seats something like 15 people, and I didn’t have to call WDW Group Dining to reserve it – I just made a regular ADR. We were ready at 9:30am, and though originally they hadn’t been able to give me a reservation til 9:50am, the table was ready within minutes of our checking in. They also had no trouble splitting the checks up among the group members – at Olivia’s the night before we had to do the thing where everyone throws in more money than they prolly owe ‘cuz no one has change... ugh!
After brunch, I had a message from the room assigner at Beach Club Villas saying they’d found me a room – at 10am! – and it was a really nice one that lots of people request. I was so happy. After brunch, while I was at my appointment, DF went over to the hotel, had my luggage delivered to the room, and set everything up for me – what a sweetie! I took a Friendship boat from the BoardWalk to the Dolphin for Round Two at Mandara Spa. I’ll spare you the gory details on that one... Well, OK, just in case you're curious, I’ll put them here in spoiler mode so nobody loses their lunch: HOLY CRAP WHAT WAS I THINKING?! Somewhere I got the idea that a Brazilian wax was THE honeymoon accessory. I’d had one before, but I must’ve been smoking crack (as we used to say in the ‘90s – what is it now, meth?) because this was THE most painful thing I have ever experienced. And the results were not sexy at all. They were burn-y, sting-y and itchy, and when that subsided they were just plain creepy... Now back to your regularly scheduled trip report!
DF picked me up at the Dolphin and took me to the Yacht and Beach Club for my manicure at Perriwig’s. He was so cute – he insisted on going with me, even though I warned him he’d be bored. The girl who did my nails (Xiomara, I think), was very sweet and did a thorough job. I loved the first color I picked out, but my nails were practically fluorescent, so she went over them with another color and got the perfect shade. We talked about her wedding in Cuba – apparently they invited about 200 people, but so many party crashers showed up they had close to 300 guests! Yikes!
Manicure: Three Days Later
When my nails had cooked in the little, uh, nail oven, DF escorted me up to my room in the Villas wing at the Beach Club. It was SO cool! It was in its own alcove off the elevator lobby, so it was both quiet and convenient. It had lots of drawers and closet space, and a huge balcony overlooking the not-so “quiet” pool. But the best part we didn’t find out about until a few nights into our honeymoon: We were sitting on the balcony eating leftover wedding cake when all of a sudden we discovered we could see the Magic Kingdom’s Pirate & Princess fireworks from our balcony! Very cool...
Note the boxes of Costco waters...
Looking off toward MK
NO-PRESSURE, COME-IF-YOU-WANT-TO MEET ‘N’ GREET
A few weeks before the wedding, we began to agree that – even though we didn’t want to over-schedule them - some of our guests, especially family members, would want to meet and catch up before the wedding. At that point, we didn’t have room in the budget to host a dinner, and we didn’t want to put people through the Dance of a Million Separate Checks, so we settled on a late-afternoon/early-evening meet ‘n’ greet between lunch and dinner. We encouraged people to drop in when they wanted or not drop in at all, if they had plans already. As it turns out, several groups made their own dinner plans for after the meet ‘n’ greet, so it worked out really nicely.
What we didn’t know was where to hold it. I got the idea from another bride to have everyone meet in the Solarium at Beach Club Villas. It looked great in pictures and seemed large enough to host our event.
The Solarium
However, two weeks before the wedding, I found out that the Beach Club was probably going to show the Super Bowl in the Solarium on the day of our meet ‘n’ greet – imagine the nerve, scheduling the Super Bowl for the day of our meet ‘n’ greet!
I freaked out, posted all over, got tons of great suggestions. In the end, because I was cracked on the idea of meeting at the Beach Club, we used its other common room, the Drawing Room, and it turned out to be PERFECT! Unlike the Solarium, it is enclosed and has only one door, so it was like we had our own private room. We must’ve had 15-20 people there – mostly just family members – and we ended up rearranging all the furniture in a big circle as more people showed up. DF got a little twitchy about this. He kept saying, “Maybe we should arrange conversational groupings!” It did look a little like an AA meeting, I guess...
That’s OK, I got twitchy when my FMIL announced she was going to be taking pictures at the reception. She is a shutterbug and has her camera going constantly at every gathering. We’d had a conversation with her months before about how we were hiring professional photographers and we wanted her to just enjoy our wedding from in *front* of a camera. So when she said that I got kinda worked up and made a fool of myself, pouting that I was the bride and I wanted to control the photos of our wedding day and I didn’t care if it made me Bridezilla! (Imagine my dismay when, on the wedding day, I found that FMIL was the only guest who didn’t have a camera – d’oh! In fact, this is probably totally out of line, but I wish I had told guests they weren’t allowed to bring cameras into Epcot – hee hee!)
The Drawing Room
After the meet ‘n’ greet, our pastor suggested we all go to Cape May for dinner. I felt guilty about bowing out, but DF and I each wanted to have a mellow, early night, and I still had lots to unpack. We went up to my room and tried to order room service, but the wait was like 90 minutes – prolly cuz of the Super Bowl. Curses – foiled again! We decided to hit Beaches & Cream, which meant walking right by the open seating area at Cape May where our family and friends were eating – we tried to sneak past so no one would see us.
Beaches & Cream hit the spot! I made a half-hearted attempt to eat light by ordering the chicken sandwich, but it was pretty greasy… greasily delicious! And I felt like a rebel for ordering a (kids’) sundae the night before my wedding – take that, BRIDES magazine!
Yes, that’s extra peanut butter sauce in the background
After dinner DF said goodnight and went off to bunk with his cousin (the one who introduced us!) at the Contemporary, and I began a lengthy series of beauty preparations. I washed and straightened my hair with the blow dryer so I wouldn't have to do that in the morning. I gave myself a crappy pedicure (meh – I hadn’t brought any sandals) and hit the rack around 11:30 – not good when you have a 4 am wake-up call!
Sleeping*Beauty
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OMG - if I'd been drinking milk, it woulda shot out my nose - I can TOTALLY picture a gator cage in the lobby of the Mandara Spa!! Unfortunately, this gator cage was in the lobby of the Glamorous Sheraton Safari Inn & Suites 'n' Things....
Were there Alligators in the cage??Nice job sneaking by the family at cape may. And how dare they have the Superbowl on the eve of your wedding, the nerve!! LOL
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Ladies, you are NEVER too old for a quinceanera! Quince is just a state of mind!
I try...
And good for you for wearing heels!
Thanks for the tips on hwo to not look like their mommy, this will certainly help me in the future.
The men I have met until now, always say they don't have a problem with me being taller, but then they always comment when I am not wearing ultra-flat shoes.
I guess this is why I am still single and looking into the Quince-thing (*** is that, btw???)
Can't wait to read the rest of your trip report!!!
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