How safe is DTD these days?

[pampam]

Jess_S, would it be possible for you to show us the maps or at least a link to to those crime maps you were looking at?

 

[sersee05]

We were down there for dinner last week. Now this was at 6pm, but never did I feel unsafe. It's easy to be sucked in to the wonderful world of Disney though. I could see how people could go there and think it's the safest place in the world.

I will say that we thought it was so crowded. We thought it was more crowded than the park had been to that day..lol. We were very uncomfortable there trying to park and get through the crowds. It was a hike to trex.

 

[Imaginique]

I've never actually been there in the day time myself. Always shop there in the evening; took my 5 year old and it never crossed my mind to be unsafe. As others have said just be aware of your surroundings like you would in any public place.

 

[Kalliope]

I hear you. But the wording in that post was argumentative and frankly sounded like s/he just wanted to start something. Which is why I brought it up. It was the tone of the post.

That's why I ignored the post.

 

[Maleficent Dragon]

I don't care how much that young woman had to drink, it was NOT her fault that she was assaulted, and it's asinine and ignorant to imply, in any way, that she had any hand in her attack. That is all I have to say about that.

Who said it was her fault?

ETA -
Removed part of my post because another member shared information with me I was unaware of.

 

[crostorfer]

Who said it was her fault?

And, do you know all of the story? They are/were both CMs. How do you know, while in her drunken state, that she did not call him talking sexy and agreed to meet him in DTD and by the time she got there she was pretty close to passed out, yet he did what she promised? How do you know that she did not consent and was too inebriated to remember? How do you know that she wasn't awake enough for it, but too drunk to remember? The fact that he left "evidence" would make one consider there could be more to the story.

This is a disgusting reply. I'm not going to discuss this issue any farther. It's a trigger topic for me. I said what I meant, and I meant what I said.

 

[MakiraMarlena]

All that is for the court to decide.

 

[Maleficent Dragon]

I said what I meant, and I meant what I said.

As did I.

 

[Maleficent Dragon]

All that is for the court to decide.

And THAT is what it really comes down to, because none of us were there and none of us have the facts.

 

[Jess_S]

Jess_S, would it be possible for you to show us the maps or at least a link to to those crime maps you were looking at?

Whenever I post a link, I worry that I'm violating board rules -- (so I hope someone will let me know if I am) -- but here's where I was looking at types of crimes committed in the area: http://spotcrime.com/fl/lake+buena+vista

 

[Magpie]

Who said it was her fault?

And, do you know all of the story? They are/were both CMs. How do you know, while in her drunken state, that she did not call him talking sexy and agreed to meet him in DTD and by the time she got there she was pretty close to passed out, yet he did what she promised? How do you know that she did not consent and was too inebriated to remember? How do you know that she wasn't awake enough for it, but too drunk to remember? The fact that he left "evidence" would make one consider there could be more to the story.

You're wrong.

One, she was incapable of consent, due to being severely inebriated. So it doesn't matter what she did or didnt agree to, what she does or doesn't remember. It's rape. Period, end of sentence. The lady was incautious, the gentleman acted in a criminal manner.

Remember kids, it's a crime to take sexual advantage of someone when they're wasted.

Two, only an incredible louse would leave his "date" undressed and unconcious in the bushes. What if she'd choked on her own vomit and died? As the demonstrably more sober of the pair, the gentleman should have called 911 for her.

Three, anyone want to take bets on this thread being closed toute suite?

 

[Alesia]

Whenever I post a link, I worry that I'm violating board rules -- (so I hope someone will let me know if I am) -- but here's where I was looking at types of crimes committed in the area: http://spotcrime.com/fl/lake+buena+vista

You can post links - it's fine.

 

[Maleficent Dragon]

You're wrong.

One, she was incapable of consent, due to being severely inebriated. So it doesn't matter what she did or didnt agree to, what she does or doesn't remember. It's rape. Period, end of sentence. The lady was incautious, the gentleman acted in a criminal manner.

Remember kids, it's a crime to take sexual advantage of someone when they're wasted.

Two, only an incredible louse would leave his "date" undressed and unconcious in the bushes. What if she'd choked on her own vomit and died? As the demonstrably more sober of the pair, the gentleman should have called 911 for her.

Three, anyone want to take bets on this thread being closed toute suite?

If she truly was out of it, then yes, he was 100% in the wrong and should go to prison. I do not disagree with that whatsoever. I was over-exxagerating in my previous statements, but my point was really that none of us know what really happened. I do not pretend to know what happened. If she was that far gone and he was in his right mind, then what he did was without a doubt wrong and a crime. I cannot imagine he was in his right mind either to leave evidence.

Years ago, when I was a waitress, I saw women who drank more than really big men and could still hold it together. I have also known people who lied and said they were sexually assaulted when they were not. One man went to prison for years until the truth came out. That is what I based my response on. Again, I dont know all the facts - and neither do you....or anybody else on this forum. It is for the courts to hear and decide.

And just an FYI - since I am not claiming to know all the fact like you and some others, I was not aware of the state he left her in either. The articles I read must have left out that detail.

 

[pampam]

Whenever I post a link, I worry that I'm violating board rules -- (so I hope someone will let me know if I am) -- but here's where I was looking at types of crimes committed in the area: http://spotcrime.com/fl/lake+buena+vista

Thank you.

 

[Julylady]

During our trip in July we walked back from Downtown Disney to Saratoga Springs at dusk. I never felt unsafe. However, a few days later we walked from Hollywood Studios to the Yacht Club using the lighted path. It was after the Frozen fireworks so about 10:15 or so. About 1/3 of the way back, a young man scrambled out from behind the bushes and started walking about 30 feet behind us. He immediately made me nervous. I was with my Mom (using a scooter) and my two young nieces. I started walking very fast to catch up a bit to the group ahead of us. The guy kept pace with us. After I had caught up to the other family, the guy passed us all and continued on to the Boardwalk area. The next day while on the Friendship cruise boat, I saw that the area where he came from is very close by a road. I am guessing he was dropped off or was taking a short cut or something and was probably very innocent. But it really freaked me out and from now on I will be much more cautious about walking back to the resort in the dark.

 

[Magpie]

If she truly was out of it, then yes, he was 100% in the wrong and should go to prison. I do not disagree with that whatsoever. I was over-exxagerating in my previous statements, but my point was really that none of us know what really happened. I do not pretend to know what happened. If she was that far gone, then what he did was wrong. Years ago, when I was a waitress, I saw women who drank more than really big men and could still hold it together. That is what I based my response on. Again, I dont know all the facts - and neither do you....or anybody else on this forum. It is for the courts to hear and decide.

I know perfectly well what was reported in the media.

She was visibly inebriated at the party.

She had to lean on him to stay upright when the danced.

Cameras show her stumbling and leaning on him as they went out back.

The man in question told the cops that he tried to pull her out of the bushes, but she was too heavy for him to move. She was, at this point, too insensible to move herself. So he decided to leave her there. Didn't even bother to redress her.

She was discovered, passed out in the bushes, some hours later.

Fact is, the only detail that matters is that she was visibly, obviously, intoxicated. And thus incapable of consenting to anything.

 

[anneboleyn]

Who said it was her fault?

And, do you know all of the story? They are/were both CMs. How do you know, while in her drunken state, that she did not call him talking sexy and agreed to meet him in DTD and by the time she got there she was pretty close to passed out, yet he did what she promised? How do you know that she did not consent and was too inebriated to remember? How do you know that she wasn't awake enough for it, but too drunk to remember? The fact that he left "evidence" would make one consider there could be more to the story.

This is GROSS. And just so you know, false rape claims are not remotely common, and viewpoints like your's are the reasons girls and women are too ashamed to come forward after they have been assaulted because their actions will be scrutinized and people will insist that they somehow "asked for it."

And also, rapists leave evidence All. The. Time. That doesn't mean that it was consensual. This is seriously one of the most disturbing comments I have ever seen on here.

 

[Maleficent Dragon]

I know perfectly well what was reported in the media.

She was visibly inebriated at the party.

She had to lean on him to stay upright when the danced.

Cameras show her stumbling and leaning on him as they went out back.

The man in question told the cops that he tried to pull her out of the bushes, but she was too heavy for him to move. She was, at this point, too insensible to move herself. So he decided to leave her there. Didn't even bother to redress her.

She was discovered, passed out in the bushes, some hours later.

Fact is, the only detail that matters is that she was visibly, obviously, intoxicated. And thus incapable of consenting to anything.

If all of that is factual the man should be in prison without a doubt.

I do not make it a habit to crucify people based upon what I read on the internet and certainly not what the media reports. Mainstream media is filled with lies and sensationalism.

In this case, it sounds like there was a confession.

 

[Maleficent Dragon]

This is GROSS.

I already said that I was exaggerating. I DO NOT condone assault of ANY KIND against any person. I was not aware until magpie said it that there was a confession of sorts.

 

[anneboleyn]

I already said that I was exaggerating. I DO NOT condone assault of ANY KIND against any person. I was not aware until magpie said it that there was a confession of sorts.

Umm you pretty much implied that since the guy left "evidence" (ew), that she MUST have brought it on herself.