How much below 'asking' is "lowballing"?

[Cfabar1]

The TOT to me really skews the whole game.... I think that issue is going to continue to be a problem...

To me, a lowball offer is an offer that has no basis in financial reality for the point system and the resort. Offering $50/pp for VGC would be a waste of everyone's time. Offering $50/pp for Vero Beach is probably a bad financial decision on the part of the buyer, who might want to consider offering lower than that (if offering at all).

 

[disneylandtour]

A few VDH made their way into the resale market. Some asking $180 to $215pp. $150 might seem lowball yet I can’t imagine anyone offering more other than some random unicorn buyer/masochist.

The west coast is a different ballgame but still, VDH restrictions are harder to swallow than RIV. Locked into to one resort and that resort has a fairly significant ToT cost. On average per night they add: $50 Duo, $70 Studio, $125 1BR, $190 2BR, $400 GV. That’s an albatross. No lucking into VGC or occasional jaunts to WDW that avoid and offset those ToT expenses.

I’d say 10% under asking is totally fair game. Even 15% fair game if your intuition thinks a specific resort or type of contract is trending down. For VDH 20% does not seem lowball.

With the TOT, VDH needs to come down to the low $100s to make me interested. Give it three years, and I think it will be there. The restrictions are huge. The TOT is high. The tower is tiny. And it would be super easy to have periods where you could find little to no availability in weeks that interested you and those points simply expire.

 

[Genie+]

The TOT to me really skews the whole game.... I think that issue is going to continue to be a problem...

To me, a lowball offer is an offer that has no basis in financial reality for the point system and the resort. Offering $50/pp for VGC would be a waste of everyone's time. Offering $50/pp for Vero Beach is probably a bad financial decision on the part of the buyer, who might want to consider offering lower than that.

It would hurt less if the dues at VDH weren’t on the high side at near $10pp.

It all adds up quick!

 

[Middle of Main Street]

I always offered what I wanted to pay. When I found things that fit, I offered..sometimes it was well below and other times it was not.

Last year, I decided that if I could get RIV for $100x I’d buy it! No one took it. Which was fine because it worked out that I really didn’t need them!!!

I completely agree. We made a lowball offer on a 2042 resort last summer, not expecting to get it. It was what we were willing pay, and what we felt we could use ourselves at our favorite resort. We have spent a lot of money at this resort already before becoming members, so this purchase made sense for us, at the price we paid.

 

[Girlstar30]

Just ask lower than what you actually want to pay and see what happens. I offered $80 on a $95 SSR contract this month. They countered $85 and I countered back $82 and they accepted.

If it gets ROFR'd I'm going to try for even less if it's stripped (this one wasnt)

What do you have to lose unless you're in a hurry and even then you can easily counter back and forth in minutes if seller is proactive.

 

[Disneydad14]

Long time follower, first time poster.

I'm interested in a small-point contract that has its points stripped in 2025. As I've bought and sold a few contracts, if I really want the contract, I try to make a fair offer.

Let's say this contract is $145/pp (asking) and I offer $135/pp to the seller. The $145/pp is the average 'ask' for what I've seen available lately, for a contract of this nature. I don't view it as 'inflated' or greedy. It's not excessive, in my opinion.

You might compare it to a 50-point contract at VGF going in the low $170's/pp.

I'm offering a little under a 7% discount from the list (price) at $135/pp. Would you consider that a "lowball" offer?

I'm thinking it's a stripped contract in an unstable economy, a buyer's market.

Now, in my book, I definitly think there's a level below "lowball", something along the lines of "outrageous". Say I offered the seller, on the $145/pp contract, oh, $115/pp. And again, I'm looking the sellers $145/pp as standard fare for the contract in question. I would think $115/pp would be in the "outrageous" realm, but that's me.

I know some people have the idea of "throw it at the wall, see if anything sticks", and on occasion, it does.

I guess what I'm asking, in a roundabout way, is, how do you qualify a "lowball" offer?

I try to get a good price and move on with my day . I just bought a BLT and I got it for 120 a point . I could have probably got it a little cheaper but a point or two wouldn’t have made much of a difference and I feel I got a fair value. I just don’t like the back and forth and I pretty much do this for all purchases in my life