How many points are allocated at each Vacation Club Resort?

[DVC Grandpa]

How does WDW-DVC determine how many points will be sold for each of the Vacation Club facilities? In the calculation how much does the room category, (available Studies, 1 bedrooms etc and the room view, etc.) and season Adventure, Choice, Dream, etc.), play into the calculation. At one time I was told that BCV had sold 3,027,092 and I don’t think that accounts for the number that a part of the DVC inventory.
Does anyone have any actual allocated points for each Vacation Club property?

 

[dianeschlicht]

I could probably find that information for OKW, since that is where I own, and I'm pretty sure someone will have that information here, so I'll bump this up for you.

The number of points at a given DVC resort is dependant on the size of the resort in units and how many unit reservations can be made in a year with about 4% pulled out for maintenance etc.

 

[Laurajean1014]

Interesting question. I'm sure we can figure it out.

Bumping.

 

[Chuck S]

One theory is....take the number of points for a studio, see what it would take to stay in one fo a full year according to the point chart. Multiply that by the number of studios at the resort. Do the same with each of the other room classifications, being careful ot to count "lock-offs" twice, use dedicated two bedrooms, at the totals together. Then as Diane said, subtract roughly 4% for the DVC maintenance holdback. That should be a ballpark figure.

 

[kiingor]

does the # of points for each resort ever change. 10 years from now.. will it still require the same amount of points per nights or will it go up ?

 

[*elaine*]

does the # of points for each resort ever change. 10 years from now.. will it still require the same amount of points per nights or will it go up ?

If I understand correctly, the overall # of points to rent each room in a resort in a given year cannot go up. They may decide to charge more for high season and then they would have to adjust and charge less for low season.

So, just making up figures, if the cost of renting a studio for 365 nights at OKW was set at 500,000 points, it will always remain at that total for the year. Within the total, prices for individual seasons may change.

 

[Chuck S]

If I understand correctly, the overall # of points to rent each room in a resort in a given year cannot go up. They may decide to charge more for high season and then they would have to adjust and charge less for low season.

So, just making up figures, if the cost of renting a studio for 365 nights at OKW was set at 500,000 points, it will always remain at that total for the year. Within the total, prices for individual seasons may change.

Almost accurate , the overall points for the entire resort can not change. There can be adjustments both within seasons (some season go up, others down) AND between unit sizes (studios go up, two-bedrooms go down, etc.) In practical application, the formulas are difficult at best, and I don't look for re-allocations to happen often. There has only been one full resort point re-allocation, and that was at OKW in 1996. Studios during the "cheapest" season were originally 69 points for a week, they are now 80...I don't remember where the other adjustments were made..because at that time we stayed mainly in studios, but some requirements did go down (I'm thinking GVs went down?). We may see re-allocations occur when we get closer and closer to the contract end date, if DVC believes demand is becoming "lopsided". If DVC doesn't perceive a problem (ie see demand for one season/unit size climb dramatically while another drops off) there more than likely won't be a re-allocation. The adjustments are made in an effort to keep all units at nearly full occupancy...that is the way a point based timeshare works.

 

[kiingor]

If thats the case.. then it would be a really great deal 40 years from now... when the price of the resort goes up ... assuming the re-allocation doesn't creat e a big change ( 69 points for studio all of the sudden becomes 300 points. )

 

[*elaine*]

Almost accurate , the overall points for the entire resort can not change. There can be adjustments both within seasons (some season go up, others down) AND between unit sizes (studios go up, two-bedrooms go down, etc.) Inpractical application, the formulas are difficult at best, and I don't look for re-allocations to happen often. There has only been one full resort point re-allocation, and that was at OKW in 1996. Studios during the "cheapest" season were originally 69 points for a week, they are now 80...I don't remember where the other adjustments were made..because at that time we stayed mainly in studios, but some requirements did go down (I'm thinking GVs went down?). We may see re-allocations occur when we get closer and closer to the contract end date, if DVC believes demand is becoming "lopsided". If DVC doesn't perceive a problem (ie see demand for one season/unit size climb dramatically while another drops off) there more than likely won't be a re-allocation. The adjustments are made in an effort to keep all units at nearly full occupancy...that is the way a point based timeshare works.

Thanks! So, if, making up figures in my head again, if it cost 1,000,000 points to rent out every DVC room (subtracting that 4% for maintenance, etc.) in OKW for 365 nights, THAT total will never increase over the years. How those point costs are shifted around between types of rooms and seasons might, however. But even if the cash prices to reserve at OKW continue to increase over the years, the total number of points to fill the resort will not. Do I have it right now?

 

[Chuck S]

If thats the case.. then it would be a really great deal 40 years from now... when the price of the resort goes up ... assuming the re-allocation doesn't creat e a big change ( 69 points for studio all of the sudden becomes 300 points. )

IMO, the biggest "value" factor won't be the point tables, but the future of annual dues/fees and costs which DVC has no control over, like utilities and insurance...but those same costs would also affect the rental price of standard Disney resort rooms.

 

[Chuck S]

Thanks! So, if, making up figures in my head again, if it cost 1,000,000 points to rent out every DVC room (subtracting that 4% for maintenance, etc.) in OKW for 365 nights, THAT total will never increase over the years. How those point costs are shifted around between types of rooms and seasons might, however. But even if the cash prices to reserve at OKW continue to increase over the years, the total number of points to fill the resort will not. Do I have it right now?

Yep, that's it. Except the 4% +/- that Disney holds is included in the overall total for the resort. But, if you are looking to see how many points were actually "sold", then you'd need to substract it.

 

[drusba]

You have it correct. Under timeshare law, a timeshare is prohibited from selling more interests than it would take to occupy the units for an entire year. Thus, the total points that can be sold are equal to the total points it takes to occupy all the units throughout the year less what DVC keeps, a few percent of the points for each resort). If Disney decides to raise points needed at a resort for one time of the year, it needs to lower them elsewhere during the year to maintain the same total. As noted above, that kind of adjustment has happened only once and to OKW only. The goal with higher and lower points at different times of year is to attempt to keep demand fairly steady during the year. They won't attempt to change anything unless some long term trend changes. For example, suppose all high schools decided to change annual schedules so that students attend all year but have 4 week breaks at different times of the year rather than having the long summer break. That could cause a significant shift in demand times for DVC, e.g., if one of those usual breaks is in September, September could go from being one of the lowest demand months to one of the highest and DVC would probably seriously consider adjusting points.

 

[spiceycat]

I have been expecting DVC to change the points requirement for Thanksgiving - but thank goodness they haven't...

most of it is choice with only Wed, thurs & fri - being in Magic.