How many people who profess to be Christians...

ead79 said:
I believe the Bible is the inspired Word of God. I believe it is 100% reliable and that I can trust it.
I'm not trying to start anything, but how old is the earth according to the Bible?
 
Boater said:
I'm not trying to start anything, but how old is the earth according to the Bible?
The Bible doesn't specify a certain age for the earth. The Bible does tell about its creation. Some people believe earth was created in a literal 7 days and others see the days as a figurative term for ages.
 
ead79 said:
The Bible doesn't specify a certain age for the earth. The Bible does tell about its creation. Some people believe earth was created in a literal 7 days and others see the days as a figurative term for ages.
That's why I ask. I struggle with Science vs Bible
 
Yes I believe that the Word of God is 100% believeable, reliable, and is true to what it says. I think that with all my heart and there is no room for me to think otherwise!
 

Boater said:
I'm not trying to start anything, but how old is the earth according to the Bible?


I don't know if the Bible has an age of the earth, I don't think it does.

This brings up another question that I have (hopefully numbersman can tell me if he knows):

Do we know how long Adam and Eve were in the Garden of Eden before they were cast out? I've always assumed it was a short amount of time, but that is not necessarily true. Is that in the Bible? They could have been there for centuries for all we know before they were tempted by the serpent correct? Does anyone know if this is addressed anywhere?


By the way, to answer the origanal question...I believe the Bible is the inspired word of God...100% accurate....I tend to think it is LITERAL unless it clearly supposed to be a parable...although I know there are some things I might not ever really have the answers for until I see Him face to face and can ask him myself.
 
Wishing on a star said:
I think that it might be good to post this as an anonymous poll, so that people can respond without getting involved with a lot of debate!

Personally, yes, I do believe the Bible is the 'Word' of God. It is inspired, and it is complete. If we do not believe that, then are we not basing our very Faith on a work of fiction? Or, even worse, falsehoods and lies!!! Are we not saying, "well, I can believe what I want, follow what I want, and just ditch the rest"? Do we not think that God desires to pass his 'Word' down to us. Do we not think that he is capable of inspiring a divine Scripture that is his 'Truth'?


While I feel that everything on Earth is imperfect and tainted. I do feel that Yes, the Bible is God's 'Word', and should be held as such.

I have to hold fast to the scriptures that tell me that the Bible is the 'Word' of God. Either it is, or it isn't... To cast doubts is to therefore cast doubts on all the directives and promises that are layed out in the Scriptures.

I believe this, too.
 
I'm not trying to start anything, but how old is the earth according to the Bible?

As a general rule - people who believe the Earth was created in 6 "Earthly" 24 hour days with one 24 hour day of rest following, with the lineages given in the Bible (and _____ begot ______ and he lived 124 years when he begot _______ )

believe the Earth to be around 6,000 years old, give or take a few.
 
I don't believe it was "written" directly by God, i.e. He actually put pen to paper Himself. Clearly this did not happen. But I do believe 100% that He inspired others to write what He directed them to write.

I couldn't say that you are wrong. I have to wonder however, did God also inspire the hundreds of different translations to read the way they read? I mean, I'm pretty sure God wasn't whispering into Paul's ear using King James English. and if God did 100% inspire all the different translations --- why did he make them so different?

My problem here, many of the people on this thread probably aren't even referring to the same "Bible" when we say we believe the Bible is 100% true. And I doubt very much if any of us are referring to the writings in their original form.
 
Toby'sFriend said:
I couldn't say that you are wrong. I have to wonder however, did God also inspire the hundreds of different translations to read the way they read? I mean, I'm pretty sure God wasn't whispering into Paul's ear using King James English. and if God did 100% inspire all the different translations --- why did he make them so different?

My problem here, many of the people on this thread probably aren't even referring to the same "Bible" when we say we believe the Bible is 100% true. And I doubt very much if any of us are referring to the writings in their original form.

Actually I was referring to the original form. I know from some studies that I have done that the original words have been translated different. Some are very close and some are off. Sometimes it changes things a lot. Which is too bad.
 
Toby'sFriend said:
believe the Earth to be around 6,000 years old, give or take a few.
According to the Hebrew Calendar it is the year 5766..Most Jews I know view The creation account as allegory anyway
 
JennyMominRI said:
According to the Hebrew Calendar it is the year 5766..Most Jews I know view The creation account as allegory anyway

ok, give or take a few.......hundred. :thumbsup2
 
I am a Christian & I believe the Bible 100%. "God spoke it, I believe it, that settles it."
 
Toby'sFriend said:
I couldn't say that you are wrong. I have to wonder however, did God also inspire the hundreds of different translations to read the way they read? I mean, I'm pretty sure God wasn't whispering into Paul's ear using King James English. and if God did 100% inspire all the different translations --- why did he make them so different?

My problem here, many of the people on this thread probably aren't even referring to the same "Bible" when we say we believe the Bible is 100% true. And I doubt very much if any of us are referring to the writings in their original form.
You bring up a good point. The key, I think, lies in what we consider to have been "inspired." I don't think that each and every translation (i.e. NASB, NIV, KJV, etc...) that we have of the Bible today was inspired by God in its particular translation. The Bible was written mostly in Hebrew (OT) and Greek (NT) - in the languages of the people of that day. So did God "whisper into Paul's ear using King James English"? No, I'm sure that Paul was inspired to write in Greek, as his other NT counterparts did. Each modern day "translation" of the Bible is just a way to take what was written in the ancient manuscripts and put it into language that we can understand today, while trying as best they can to adhere to the particulars of the language they are trying to translate. B/c let's face it, if all we had today was a Greek NT, how many of us could really read it? Not me. So we have English translations of the Bible. The main reason translations are different is b/c of the group of people who translated the Bible and the particular goal they were trying to accomplish. For example, the KJV was written in a very proper, King's english, appropriate for the time period in which it was translated. It seems outdated today, especially in the US, b/c very few people talk like it reads. The NASB goal was to be as true as possible to the original language as far as words go, while the NIV goal was to be as true as possible to the original language as far as meaning goes. Sometimes you have to sacrifice one for the other. But therein lies the importance of at least using Bible study tools (such as concordances, Bible dictionaries, key word study Bibles, etc...) to help "bridge the gap" between the meaning of the original language and the language in the translation. It doesn't mean that there are now errors in today's Bible (though there would be if the translators departed from what the original Scriptures meant or said and infused their own meaning into what they "translated"; has this happened before? Sure it has.); the Bible itself is intact and without error (at least that's what I believe).
 
Shel said:
I am a Christian & I believe the Bible 100%. "God spoke it, I believe it, that settles it."
Just wanted to share something I heard in a sermon the other day, that really drove something home for me. I've often heard this saying above "God said it, I believe it, that settles it." But our pastor said something the other day. He said "God said it, that settles it. Doesn't matter whether you believe it or not." Which I agree with wholeheartedly, but I guess I just never thought about it like that!
 
numbersman said:
Just wanted to share something I heard in a sermon the other day, that really drove something home for me. I've often heard this saying above "God said it, I believe it, that settles it." But our pastor said something the other day. He said "God said it, that settles it. Doesn't matter whether you believe it or not." Which I agree with wholeheartedly, but I guess I just never thought about it like that!

That's so funny you said that numbersman! I was thinking the same thing as my father in law is a pastor and made the same comment. It doesn't matter if we believe it, God said it so that settles it. In answer to your original question, absolutely with all my heart!
 
numbersman said:
Just wanted to share something I heard in a sermon the other day, that really drove something home for me. I've often heard this saying above "God said it, I believe it, that settles it." But our pastor said something the other day. He said "God said it, that settles it. Doesn't matter whether you believe it or not." Which I agree with wholeheartedly, but I guess I just never thought about it like that!

AKA, hubris version. That's the kind of attitude that makes divides people, even those within the same religion.
 
cardaway said:
AKA, hubris version. That's the kind of attitude that makes divides people, even those within the same religion.
Maybe so, and maybe for some people you know. For me personally, and for most that go to the church I attend, and for most all of my friends, this is what we believe, and so it serves not to divide us but to unite us! I guess different things work different ways for different people, but a lot of times it's all in what you're looking to do with what you have. If you're looking for ways to make divisions, you'll find them. If you're instead looking for ways to be united, you'll find them as well. All on your point of view.

I take it yours is more of a divisive point of view??
 
numbersman said:
believe that the Bible is indeed the inspired Word of God, 100% accurate and without error?

Just curious...


Whose Bible--yours or mine? Unless you too are Roman Catholic, I have a few more books in mine...

FWIW: I believe the Bible is the word of God written by man. And my question above points to its complexity and my belief that it is not meant to be taken literally--because Christian religions cannot even agree what belongs in it. I would never suggest one version is correct.
 
DisneyDotty said:
Whose Bible--yours or mine? Unless you too are Roman Catholic, I have a few more books in mine...
A guy dies and goes to meet St Peter at the Pearly Gates. St Peter asks if he want a tour, the guy say "sure".
As they're walking around Peter shows him where the Methodists hang out and play bridge, and there are the Baptists......just being Baptists.
The guy says "who's up on the hill way over there"? Peter says "shhhhh, that's the Catholics, they think they're the only ones up here"
 



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