How many Dis'ers homeschool?

Good Ol Gal said:
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Do you not find that keeping your children out of school means they miss out on learning social skills and how to interract with other children?

This is something that they will need to have when they start to look for work/a career.
 
They are missing out on many social skills including but not limited to, bad language, persecution from being different(smart is not usually cool), contempt and disrespect for authority, group thought mentality, loss of individualism, the list goes on. I find that this is true especially in the teen years. My children are more outgoing than I was at thier age, and have many friends both hs and ps, and I attribute it to hs. It is important to involve hs kids in activities outside of hs currently my DKs are involved in Children's Eucharistic Adoration,Blue Knights, Judo, Indoor Soccer, and other group classes through local educational programs at science centers, nature centers and the zoo. We just have more time to facilitate these activities. Hope this answers any socialization questions. Thank you.
 
ujpest_doza said:
Do you not find that keeping your children out of school means they miss out on learning social skills and how to interract with other children?

This is something that they will need to have when they start to look for work/a career.

Maybe you could suggest what positive social skills 10 year old boys teach one another. Frankly swearing and disrespecting of women are not high on my list of essential educational components. The home-schooled children I have been involved with are the best socialized children I know. They can have an appropriate conversation with an adult or play tag with kids older and younger than one another. They are kind to their siblings and respectful to adults. They seldomly become pregnant at 16. And everyone of them I have talked with fully intends to homeschool their own children.

I haven't noticed the world getting a whole lot nicer/better socialized since the end of classrooms with many ages involved.

When entering higher education, and the work force they consistently recieve higher than average grades and work evaluations due to these skills. Hope that answers your question. :flower1:
 

In all fairness, I believe that homeschooling--or "home education" as I think it's called in England--is not nearly as common there as it is in the US. Even ten years ago, it was fairly radical to homeschool your children. Now, it's becoming common enough that I'd say most people know a homeschooling family. Because of it's numbers, homeschooling offers many, many varied opportunities for the students to get together with other children on a regular basis. Frankly, as I mentioned in another post, I can't think of a situation other than a "traditional" school setting where a room is filled with people all the exact age as each other. Certainly having worked for 15 years, my experience has been that the workplace demands appropriate interaction with a number of age groups...something homeschooled children are especially good at. I know sometimes something "different" seems wrong, but as much as many "experts" have wanted to portray homeschooled children as social outcasts, studies have shown that's not the case and adjustment to college/career has been no different than those from traditional schools.
JMHO!
Karla B. :flower1:
 
Thanks OhioMinnie and good ole gal for offering to answer questions. I'm interested in a secular program only (by that I mean a homeschool curriculum that does not include religious content - if that makes sense!) and K12 looked like it fit the bit perfectly. And it does remind me more of what my 2nd grader has done at the local public school so I feel a bit more comfortable with that approach (than say something like unschooling). Not being critical of anyone's approach of course but trying to find something that works for us!

My son that I want to homeschool is just turning 3 next week so I have some time before kindergarten. I found a local homeschooling co-op that meets once a week and has a preschool program for the 3-5 year old set so we're going to start going there - just to meet up with other homeschoolers and also give him some preschool experience with other children. I can't say it is 100% certain he will be homeschooled but I want to keep that option open and explore it as much as possible. I live in a large metropolitan area so many opportunities around here for homeschoolers which is great! So far my 2nd grader is happy to stay in public school and it is working out well for him so far so I see no need to move him - and he doesn't wish to leave. I am somewhat concerned that the little one will also insist on going to school there (he has medical issues and life threatening food allergies so I'd like him to at least be older if he goes to public school). But time will tell I guess.

I belong to the general K12 yahoo group - any place else I should know about?

Does anyone homeschool JUST so they can take their kids to WDW any time of year they choose? LOL! :cool1:
 
Being homeschooled does not mean homebound. It is a myth that homeschooled kids are home all day with just their family . My kids actually have more time to socialize with other kids since they are not sitting at a desk all day. When my daughter went to public school she was allowed 1/2 hour to eat lunch and have recess! How much socailization is that? I am sure my kids have more time (even if it isn't everyday ) to play with other kids. We are out 4 out of 7 days a week talking and interacting with the public of all ages. I receive complements all the time on how nice my kids behave and talk with everyone no matter what age they are. I am very confident that they are being socialized just fine. :flower1:
 
I can't tell you how many times every PS student I know was told "sit down and be quite, you are not here to socialize you are here to learn". Recess and free time are nonexistent. Lunch, bus duty and buses are silent. When does the socialization in school occur?
Through homeschooling my children interact several times a week with a wide range of ages, ethnic and economic groups etc. If still in PS they would be seated silently for nearly 7/12 hrs a day in a classroom of children their own age that live with a few miles of their home. They wouldn't have exposure to anyone much different than they are.

My favorite home school quote is ....I don't want my children socialized, I want them civilized.
 
drumflower said:
Being homeschooled does not mean homebound. It is a myth that homeschooled kids are home all day with just their family.

Not only that but there seems to be the huge misconception (especially here on the DIS) that no one uses textbooks, workbooks, tutors, co-op classes etc. That we only drawn from what is stored in our brains that we remember from school. The other misconceptions I've run into are that HSing is a haven for child abuse, and child labor.

I'm really to the point where I don't even like the phrases home school, or home education. I much prefer phrases such as world education, individual education, customized education, etc.
 
ujpest_doza said:
Do you not find that keeping your children out of school means they miss out on learning social skills and how to interract with other children?

This is something that they will need to have when they start to look for work/a career.

:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Sorry........this one made me laugh. My kids have so much time with other kids, sometimes I have to say "no" to things.

We have a good homeschool group of around 25. We do all kinds of stuff together. Just today, we went ice skating for 3 hours, which was also attended by two grades of the local christian school, who we know also. So there was a big group today. Then, tomorrow, we go on a field trip with the homeschoolers from 9-2pm. Once a month, we do Pizza hut book-it. Weekly, we have swimming lessons with other homeschoolers, Wed. night church my kids have youth group/olympian classes, Sunday morning they have junior church then Sunday school, sunday night they are with kids, and this doesn't count the endless times they just "hang out" with other kids (public schooled, homeschooled, whatever)..........it just goes on and on. Oh, believe me.........I get compliments ALL OF THE TIME how well-mannered, adjusted, just plain nice my kids are to be around.

And I KNOW that the other homeschoolers on this thread have the same situations in their home. No, I don't know them personally, but I have found, in the years I have been homeschooling, that someone who is willing to sacrifice their time, money, loss of an extra income, SANITY :D..........these kind of people raise great kids. There are always exceptions, but the majority are putting raising their kids above wealth or anything else.

I do not mean that someone who doesn't homeschool and works, doesn't care about their children. For heaven's sake, I was in the public school and my mom worked from my 2nd grade year on. She loved me more than anything and I wasn't scared for life. It's just it takes a certain kind of sacrifice to homeschool. Some days I think I'm crazy, but overall, I love it.

Sorry to be so long............this one just kind of gets me going. :D
 
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Some of the replies to my question have been a bit indignant and defensive, it was just a question!

Anyhow, as someone who has replied said it is something that is very unusual and to be honest almost unheard of in England. Parents are fined and can actually be sent to prison ( and have been) if they do not send their kids to school.

The other side of the coin is of course that teachers are a professional people who have been to university and then teacher training college before being unleashed in our schools. Teaching your own kids seems a bit like representing yourself in court rather than using a lawyer ie amatuers doing the job of professionals. For instance, specialist subjects such as sciences or history/geography, how do you answer their questions on these subjects if you yourself do not have an expert knowledge of the subject?
What about languages, how do you teach French/Spanish or German if you are not a fluent speaker of the language?

Again, please don't shoot me down in flames, just expressing a few thoughts on a subject that is a bit of an alien concept to me. I could not imagine trying to teach my own kids a full and diverse curriculum. Surely you need a certain expertise to be able to teach properly?
 
While my son was on a waiting list for a terrfic school,which turned out to be two years, I home schooled Erich in kindergarten and 1st grade.I loved doing it and the time he and I spent together but honestly,he's in 4th garde now,I'm glad he's in school. I don't think I could keep up anymore!!! :earboy2: I couldn't ask for a better school than he's in now.Parental involvement and volunteer hours are a must or your child doesn't come back the next year.It reminds me of the homeschool group I belonged to in our outlook on what sort of education our children should be getting.

I miss the freedom to take up and go whenever we wanted that we had while homeschooling but his calender is pretty great the past couple of years.Lots of good break time throughout the year.

I believe that no matter if your homeschooling or in public or private school as parent you MUST be involved with your child's education.It's up to YOU to make sure he/she is getting the best education possible!!!
 
ujpest_doza said:
Some of the replies to my question have been a bit indignant and defensive, it was just a question!

Anyhow, as someone who has replied said it is something that is very unusual and to be honest almost unheard of in England. Parents are fined and can actually be sent to prison ( and have been) if they do not send their kids to school.

The other side of the coin is of course that teachers are a professional people who have been to university and then teacher training college before being unleashed in our schools. Teaching your own kids seems a bit like representing yourself in court rather than using a lawyer ie amatuers doing the job of professionals. For instance, specialist subjects such as sciences or history/geography, how do you answer their questions on these subjects if you yourself do not have an expert knowledge of the subject?
What about languages, how do you teach French/Spanish or German if you are not a fluent speaker of the language?

Again, please don't shoot me down in flames, just expressing a few thoughts on a subject that is a bit of an alien concept to me. I could not imagine trying to teach my own kids a full and diverse curriculum. Surely you need a certain expertise to be able to teach properly?

Oh, I didn't take offense at all, ujpest_doza..........just stating how it is for our family. :D

My Dh has a doctorate degree.........not in languages, but he has had four years of Latin..........he teaches our two DD's. Not that this has anything to do with his being "qualified to teach" IMO.

I don't know how to answer your question about the "qualifications" to teach except to say, and I'm not trying to sound like a snob here, but you would have to see the curriculum that is out there now. Some of the best books are written for homeschoolers. I recently heard about a research study, comparing books for homeschoolers and public school books. The books for homeschoolers were so much better quality. But think about it, (you don't have this in your country, so I understand why you wouldn't usually think about this) homeschooling is A BIG BUSINESS here in the US. And I mean BIG. Because WE AS PARENTS PAY FOR THESE BOOKS OUT OF OUR OWN POCKET, and we are a very DEMANDING group, as far as quality goes. You see, we don't need to ask a school board if it is ok to spend A LOT of money on a particular book. If we want it, we get it. We don't need to go through any red tape. Companies know this. In fact, you have to be careful sometimes that you are not buying something that is inferior, because some companies know homeschooling is a money maker and they through out anything that they think we will buy. THis is rare, though.

And teaching it is not difficult because the companies who write these books, make it pretty easy. I use to use Saxon for Math. For each lesson it would have in bold, black print what the parent/teacher was supposed to say. "Now say, 'Now what do we get when we add these two together', child should say, '12'"..................I mean, it was spelled out for you. Most books are not that explicit, but they do try to make it as simple as possible.

And to wrap this up.........NO ONE..........and I mean, NO ONE, cares more for a student THAN THE PARENTS. No one cares more that my child reads at a certain level, knows about the constellations, writes a book report, can recite their multiplication/division tables, etc.........THAN ME!! :D It's not that I have the best techniques, necessarily, but I will take all the time and effort they need to grasp something. AND WE DON'T GO ON IN THE BOOK UNTIL THEY KNOW THE CONCEPT..........which never happens in school. If you aren't getting it, tough!! The class can't wait for you.

I could go on and on. I just thank God that we have the freedom in this country to homeschool. I know I take it for granted sometimes. We had a missionary over for dinner a few months back from England. That is the first time I ever heard that it was against the law to homeschool there. He wished he and his wife could homeschool, but they couldn't. I am truly grateful we have this freedom. :D
 
A friend of mine, who used to be an "official" teacher and now homeschools said that when you study for your teaching certificate, it's not as if you study geometry, history or whatever all over again. The core of the study is classroom management--which, in most cases, isn't necessary in the homeschool environment. Teachers have curriculums with a Teacher's Manual for each subject and teach from that, just as homeschooling parents do. A big difference is that the homeschooled student doesn't have to sit through 75% of classtime waiting for everyone to take their turn reading. That leaves extra time for some great hands-on learning activities as well as true social time with other homeschooled kids.
I do recall reading about the mother who was jailed in England for not sending her children to school. From the details I'd read, it didn't sound as if she was properly homeschooling them at all, either. I'm sure there're cases like that here, but it's certainly the tiny minority of homeschooling families. Again, I understand that the concept is probably hard to imagine given how "foreign" it may seem in the UK...especially with so much tradition tied into your education system. But, honestly, it can and does work for many, many families!
Best regards,
Karla B. :flower1:
 
When I attended college, I was in 80% of the same classes as teachers to be, even though, I was studing a different degree. What makes a good teacher? I say life experiences. You do not stop learning when you leave college. Who can say that a 24yr.old teacher is better than a 34 yr old mother? If you notice some of the best teachers are older ones. It takes more than 4 years of college to make a good teacher. My DH has a teaching degree and he believes in homeschooling! I have the resourses to give my kids a great education. Many homeschoolers belong to study groups where they learn from many "teachers". In my area, high school homeschoolers can take college classes and receive credit for their future. I don't think we would homeschool if we felt it was harming our children.
One thing that I do agree with is that we need to be a little more tolerant of people who ask the tipical questions about socialiaztion, qualifacation , and many other questions for us. If we want them to believe that our kids are getting socialized , then we need to act like we are. I think some people are just curious about homeschooling and when we become too defensive when they ask questions, they don't listen and people's oppinions will never change about us. We wouldn't treat our kids like that if they asked a question, would we? If they have a different view of things, does it make them wrong? It is something to keep in mind.
 
ujpest_doza said:
Some of the replies to my question have been a bit indignant and defensive, it was just a question!

IMHO it was an off topic question, meant to generate an emotional response. After all, the OP was asking who home schools, not if home schooling is right, or legal or harmful. Of course we will get defensive when our parenting choices are questioned and it is suggested that our children are unsocialized and can't/don't interact with other children.


Anyhow, as someone who has replied said it is something that is very unusual and to be honest almost unheard of in England. Parents are fined and can actually be sent to prison ( and have been) if they do not send their kids to school.

home schooling is legal and fairly popular in England. I helped a friend research it before she moved there with her son. Since in England one can chose their school, the good ones are full and have long waiting list. Home schooling is not uncommon for children who don't get into their school of choice.

I could not imagine trying to teach my own kids a full and diverse curriculum. Surely you need a certain expertise to be able to teach properly?

If you can't imagine it, then of course you would not be a good candidate for home schooling.

Apparently the laws in the US disagree with you. While there are requirements to hold a license to teach in public school, there are no such laws for private schools. Also there is such a shortage in teachers with degrees in certain subjects (such as high school math) that many teachers are teaching subject other than what they are trained in.

As mentioned before it is a misconception that home schoolers stay at home all day and are taught only what information their parents retain from school.

I believe that no matter if your homeschooling or in public or private school as parent you MUST be involved with your child's education.It's up to YOU to make sure he/she is getting the best education possible!!!

Very well said. I was very active in the PTA and DS's school when he was in PS K-2. Starting in 3rd (new school) the school didn't want parental involvement. I know it sounds strange but it was oh so true. The PTA barely existed, the school did not need/want parents to volunteer to make copies etc. Needless to say this school has much lower test scores, and the high school it feeds into has a much higher dropout rate that the other district we were in. All three elementary schools DS has attended are in the same county/school system. It was the situation in the last one that made us decide to home school.


Oh and please use the quote. It's been around a while. I have no idea where it originally came from
 












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