How important is rope drop?

The only exception to that rule I would say is TSM - which is always insane - for good reason:thumbsup2

:worship: I am soooooo thankful they have FP for TSM @ DHS. We went to DLR and the TSM @ DCA does NOT have FP. Needless to say, we didn't ride it that trip. The line was crazy!!!!! :scared1:

:goodvibes Jennifer
 
If you want to sleep in and ride things without a wait, go to Universal and stay in one of their hotels.

At Disney, it really is hard to sleep in and ride the popular stuff without a wait. You have to pick one or the other.

Good luck. :)
 
Here's my opinion. Rope drop is important. I know people don't want to get up early on vacation & I get that. And for teenagers & adults, it doesn't matter. Because they are mature & understand not getting to ride things and enjoy the parks late into the night. But a three year old will not understand a 1 hour line for Dumbo. And they'll fall asleep by the time the crowds have emptied at night.

If you want the full scoop of how to not wait in lines & still be relaxing, check out my trip report from last year. You'll be shocked at what we could accomplish by 11:00 am when we did rope drop.

Here's my opinion on how to talk cranky non-morning people into rope drop. On day one convince them to get up early & do a rope drop. Then on day two let them sleep in. In my experience, your people will be at rope drop from that point. Day one you'll accomplish half a park by noon. Day two you'll ride 4 things all day & be tired & cranky.

At the end of day two, ask dh which day he thought was more successful. My experience with my dh is, he willingly gets out of bed from that point on and is ready for rope drop on day 3. Course now he's a veteran & doesn't whine too much about it.

Your other option is to tell dh that you & your three old will just leave him at the hotel & he can meet you whenever he gets up. That usually motivates men too because even though they like to pretend they are all casual about WDW, they REALLY care about seeing their baby's happy little faces light up. My dh wouldn't miss it for the world & once I'm up & dressing the kids there is no WAY he's letting me have the girl's joy all to myself.
 
During any holiday you must do RD! It just makes touring so much simpler and less stressful. You can always go back for a nap. Also, to ride TSM, its a must. We are planning our first day at DHS RD so we can ride TSM! We FP and do Stand by so we can get on it twice! Early bird catches the worm:rotfl:
 

Remember you are talking to the choir. Many DISers would qualify for memberships in Overplanners Anonymous. :goodvibes Just look at teh number of folks who create threads NOW about what their exact touring plan should be in fall of 2011 or the like! Or the folks who lament today that they are undecided about which resort to pick in summer 2012. Yes, I've seen those threads.

That said, do what works best for you. I have done vacations both ways. And our trips usually are a combination of being at the gate around 9:05- 9:20 and arriving a little later.
Certainly you can hit several headliners early in the am and grab some fastpasses. But most rides continue to have fastpasses through out the day.

I'd also say, most DISers are early morning type folks - they arrive at the gate very early then crash by early evening. The late hours are often just as empty, or more empty than the morning hours, though not always.

If your son is going to be cranky and miserable, then being at rope drop makes no sense. Once I pushed my nephew to get up too early, and he was miserable all day (not at WDW, bt on another vacation) he dragged his feet all day, which didn't make getting up early any benefit at all! I would have much rather waited a little onger i line wihta sweet child. That day happened over six years ago, and it has become the stuff of family legend! Especially i fyou plan on using the evening hours.

If you are going to be at the parks early, three worthwhile attractions are TSM, Dumbo, and Soarin'. Otherwise, you can arrive at 10am and still ride everything mostly using Fp for teh big attractions. You could arrive at ten am and still get FP ofr the two above, but the fp return times will be rather late, which will tie up your ability to get fastpasses for two hours.

Also, you can easily gear your touring towards doing the so-called less popular attractions in the afternoon, when crowds are at their peak. It just may be that you will only be riding the most popular attractions once. I think you said you'll be there in the middle of November, so crowds won't be super crazy then. Also, the three year old probably isn't tall anough for the biggest attractions, so you can use his fatpass ability to get a fastpass that one of the adults can use. Also, if ther is just two adults in yor group, you can do single rider line for EE, RNRC, and TestTRack (since each adult will have to ride alone anyhow- someoe has to stay with the child) Your son, probably will mostly want to go onthe more kiddie rides. Many of the kiddie rides don't tend to get especially long lines- except inthe very middle of the day. IaSW is crazy at lunch time, but dead by 7pm. The disadvantage of November is that you don't have a lot of late night hours - esp if you are offsite.

It's also important to realize that youa re talking abouta trip with a three year old. The three year old is't going to want to spend all day onthe most popular thrill rides- he's going to want to see the kiddie type rides. He will will probably love attractions like the TikiHouse, CoP, the riverboat, rockets, Muppets, HOney I Shrunk Playground, Tom Sawyer Island, Animal treks, Rafiki's planet watch, trains, and Imagination - these kind of attractions don't get especially long lines most of the time. Rope drop doesn't matter much if you plan to do character greets. They stop and start throughout the day.
So the focus will be slightly different, but there are lots of things to do.
 
We did rope drop at MK in March and did every ride we wanted without waiting. We took the train to splash mountain and there was literally no line. We then went right on the the train rollercoaster and again no line. We actually were done with the whole place by about 3pm. Also there is a cool little show they do at rope drop.

Just tell the family to set their watches forward a few hours and pretend they slept in.

I'm always amazed at how people would rather wait on huge lines than just hustle a bit, not just at WDW but everywhere.

I guess I'm thankful to all those people for making it so easy for my family!
 
Remember you are talking to the choir. Many DISers would qualify for memberships in Overplanners Anonymous. :goodvibes Just look at the number of folks who create threads NOW about what their exact touring plan should be in fall of 2011 or the like! Or the folks who lament today that they are undecided about which resort to pick in summer 2012. Yes, I've seen those threads.

:rolleyes1 I admit, I'm a uber-planner. However, I am not THAT bad. :worship: DH should be so thankful. He complains now about all my ADRs and "tentative" Touring Plans for our upcoming November/December trip. However, he doesn't complain too much when we get to ride Expedition Everest over and over again without getting off and Toy Story Mania three times in one day! ;)

:goodvibes Jennifer
 
People seem to forget that there are *three* options, not two: get up early, wait in enormous lines, or skip some things you might have wanted to do. Personally, I'm a big fan of option #3.

We were there for 10 days in September and did rope drop 3 times (and one of those was for a tour so we didn't ride anything when we got there). On other days we got to the parks between 9:30-11:30 am, stayed until mid-afternoon, took our break by riding air-conditioned transportation to a different park, and did another park from late afternoon to late evening. It was JUST FINE. We FastPassed the few rides that we wanted to do that were likely to have lines (Toy Story Mania--we did that on Studios rope drop day, Big Thunder Mountain, Peter Pan). We never, I repeat NEVER, waited more than 15 minutes for any other ride. We walked onto Soarin' (twice), Expedition Everest, Test Track, the Safari (four times), Star Tours (twice), Pooh, the Haunted Mansion (twice) ... never first thing in the morning (well, we got to Star Tours at about 9:30 on our rope drop morning for one of them, I think).

*But* we also (1) didn't want to ride any of the very slow-loading rides like Dumbo, or RnRC or TOT; and (2) were perfectly willing to say "I would rather skip rides than wait for them." We skipped Mission:Space, AstroOrbiter, and Barnstormer rather than wait.

So, *if* you want to do the really popular rides that don't have FastPass, you do need to get there early. No way to avoid it. However, it's unlikely that *everything* will have enormous long lines if you don't get there first thing in the morning. You can probably sleep until, say, 8 am, get to the parks by 10, and see and do a lot of stuff. But you'll have to accept that you may not get to do everything you'd like to that way.

It is also true that you probably won't have time to go back for a nap if you don't get there very early. And with the parks closing early, you won't be able to make up as much ground after dinner as we were able to. (We were usually in the parks until about 9:30, give or take an hour.)
 
Thanks to you all for your various feedback. Not to highjack the thread but... I am going in 11/14-11/21 with twin 4 year olds and really have thought a great deal about rope drop. The kicker for me is that my DS still needs a rest mid day if he is not going to be a nightmare at 6pm so the mid afternoon break at the townhouse is critical. In order to make that work it seems rope drop is the best plan. So, keep the advice coming - its very helpful!
 
I've been going for 35 years (since I was 3 years old). I have NEVER been at a rope drop. I don't feel like I've missed anything or that I've got caught in extreme crowds either. I'm not forcing myself to get up if i'm tired. I'm on vacation. I'm not racing around in commando mode either. I'm on vacation.

I don't think that small children are going to realize if they missed a ride because mom and dad didn't want to wait in line with them for over an hour.

I DO think that small children will notice if they are being dragged around when they are tired and cranky in the morning.

It's about enjoying yourself and having a nice vacation for everyone. It's not about throwing anyone's schedule off so they don't feel good and can't enjoy it anyway.

Trust me, you will go back!
 
You are traveling during an off-peak week. So, getting to rope drop is not essential. However, even during "slow times" (Okay, insert roll of the eyes here, because there truly is not a slow time anymore due to Free Dining all year long and the room discounts 4/3. :rolleyes:)

:offtopic:
I wish this were true. We are going the first week of Feb. and there is no free dining :eek: I saw this post and I got my hopes up for a second. :sad1:

DH and I will have to come back 9 or 10 months later cause they offer this deal in the late summer and fall. I want to try DDP so bad but it seems like a ton of food and we are more CS people than TS. Sorry off topic!!
 
We were up at 7am all five mornings of our last trip and first at the gates. We were usually the only people on the first bus going to the parks.
We did more in the first 90 minutes at all 4 parks than we did in 4 hours after 12 noon.
If you're there to see a lot, there is no better way than being at rope drop. If I was staying for a longer stretch-7-10 days, I'd do the every other day schedule. One day in the parks, one day rest. This gives the late sleepers a chance to sleep in and everyone else a chance to rest up for the next days rope drop.
 
I have never made it to any rope drops but we try to be there very close to opening. Last time we went to MK we went straight to space mountain and walked right on. Then over to Dumbo where there was a 20 minute wait. We were able to do most of Fantasyland before lunch without any trouble.

So I guess my point is that if you don't make rope drop your day isn't going to be ruined, but if you can get there with in the first 30 minutes of opening you'll be better off.
 
I guess I am looking at your post from view that you have a three year old. If your little one is a morning person then go for it. If Fantasyland is something you want to do with him then I would be there at rope drop. You do not want to be waiting in line for Dumbo for over an hour even if it isn't going to be 90 degrees and humid. For the other parks I would get there early if you are planning to do the child swap for the Big "E" ticket attractions (Expedition Everestt, Test Track, Soarin', Toy Story Mania to name a few). If you go with the expectation that this trip is going to be fun, and you will encounter some lines and make the best of it, you will be better of. With little ones Disney is can be truly magical. The look in their eyes when they see something new is incredible. My kids it was seeing Pooh Bear and friends actually come to life...Enjoy your trip!
 
I will start off by saying that I am in no way nor ever will be a morning person EXCEPT when i'm at Disney. I find that the excitment is enough to get me up in the mornings (especially the rope drop show at MK) and at the same time i'm always done my rides by noon anyway so I can always fit in a nice afternoon nap...
 
We always get to the park for rope drops b/c we head straight for the e-tickets....and we've been able to ride at least two of the big ones in each park back to back with no wait without using fast pass by doing so. each park usually has a little show with characters or all of the cast members lining up so that is a fun experience as well. the best experience we had was at epcot - all of the cast members from each future world attraction came out to lead the crowds to their attraction and all the shop CM's came out to give high-fives and welcome the crowds!
 
We plan for 45-30 min. before park open for our first week of Dec trip. Closer to the 30min but I tell the group 45 to give myself the grace for the slow movers. We did rope drop the same time last year with a group of ten kids 2 1/2 -15 they all got moving first two days of complaints but when we did MK the second day on a saturday and they saw the crowd by 11 they knew the plan was working get in get must sees done enjoy shows and parades for the afternoon using FP then for a few more fun rides. great time had by all no tired cranky two year old either she had great energy and pixie dust kept her in great spirts :)
 
I DO think that small children will notice if they are being dragged around when they are tired and cranky in the morning.

It's about enjoying yourself and having a nice vacation for everyone. It's not about throwing anyone's schedule off so they don't feel good and can't enjoy it anyway.

Trust me, you will go back!

Do you have children? :confused3 The OP said her DH isn't a morning person. I have yet to meet a 3 year old who likes to sleep in! My youngest are now 6, and will actually sleep until 7:30! However, I've found that the younger they are, the earlier they wake.
 


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