How far and wide would you want DVC to expand?

[Dean]

Agree with this. Not make it punitive, still allow rental but maybe only at a 3/5 month window.

It wouldn't be allowable given the POS wording. It's an option that can only be limited to much and they're probably at the limit they can do so now.

 

[Deb & Bill]

Any offsite DVC only makes it harder to get what you want at seven months out at WDW.

How many people who buy a Branson timeshare actually plan to spend every year at Branson? Now the beach, and I mean a real beach not Vero Beach or HHI, might be okay. But I wouldn't to pay Disney prices for it.

 

[lodge]

That's a great idea! I'd vote for them to put a small, exclusive DVC property on Castaway Cay!

I agree, they have a landing strip there already!

Purchase some planes, paint 'em up like the ME or DCL buses, and have some fun!!

If there were a way to allow someone to arrive on one cruise, stay a while, then leave on another that'd be great. Problems are evident, aside from the fact that DCL is a separate entity from Disney in general (which is why, I think, the land & sea vacations disappeared).

 

[AirGoofy]

That's a great idea! I'd vote for them to put a small, exclusive DVC property on Castaway Cay!

I like that idea. Would be great if you take the cruise there, stay for so many days, and grab another ship back to a port. There would be lots of logistics issues, so probably not going to ever happen.

 

[dr&momto2boys]

I'd like to see some at the Disney parks in other countries.

 

[arthur06]

I would like some over water bungalows at Poly. Build some 1br/2b and GV's over water. Then have a small building with additional units. Almost like a THV over water.

 

[wbl2745]

We visited Disneyland Paris but did not use points for our stay. It seemed an ineffective use of points that are already quite expensive. (Sort of like how people advise against using points for cruises.) I'd love to see real DVC at all of the resorts: Disneyland Parks, Tokyo Disneyland, Hong Kong Disneyland and the future Shanghai Disneyland. Hmm... I wonder if mainland China has any timeshares at all? I'd guess the Hong Kong does, but Hong Kong plays be different rules than the rest of the country.

 

[Happy Birthday Cat]

I'd like to see an additional Disneyland DVC, VGC only has 48 rooms.

Yes. I've been four times using my BWV points and will be again in a few weeks but more rooms there would be great and I think would sell well.

HBC

 

[Doug7856]

I've always wished Disney would build a Williamsburg DVC. I know it's an overbuilt timeshare area, but I think it would be a good fit and an expanded Adventures by Disney presence would work well with day trips to DC.

Really wished we could have had Disney's America in Virginia, but politics put an end to that option.

 

[JimMIA]

ITA. I also wish they would limit rentals to a tighter window, so real owners would have the first shot at being able to stay at the resorts we paid for!

Let me start out by saying that I have never rented a single reservation -- DVC or otherwise -- so I have no dog in this fight.

The biggest problem with this idea is that the people making reservations to rent ARE real owners -- who are using their personal points for a permissible purpose under the legal structures of DVC. If they get a reservation that any other DVC owner is eligible to get, they succeed not because they are renting, but because they did a better job of planning and executing than people who don't get reservations.

Also, as Dean pointed out, to deny them that ability would probably be a violation of the legal rights of all owners.

Second, what you are basically saying is that you object to people using their points in a permissible way because you object to the purpose of the reservation (renting for profit...or at least for money). The underlying assumption is that the guests staying in the villa are not DVC owners.

But how does that differ from reserving a villa for a family member who is not a DVC owner? Either renting or gifting a reservation to a family member takes a unit out of inventory. Renting is permitted by the POS, as is making a reservation for anyone without regard to whether they are owners or not. What's the difference? It's really just someone's personal perspective.

The strategy for getting the ressies you want is a) learn the system, b) plan ahead, and c) do whatever you need to do to execute your plans. The playing field is the same for everyone.

 

[JimMIA]

On OP's "far and wide" question, I think DVC has very limited ability to expand geographically.

Forget the economics of building and selling a timeshare resort in this economic environment -- DVC's problems are much more fundamental than that. DVC's BIG problem is one of differentiation -- or in this case, the inability to differentiate.

If you can't offer something unique, the competition becomes one based on price, and DVC will lose that fight every time to much larger systems with lower cost structures.

DVC works best where DVC properties offer a unique advantage over competitive products. At WDW, there is no question that DVC has a clear advantage -- they are ONsite, and they are Disney resorts. Those two factors carry an enormous variety of advantages which make DVC worth its price for many.

IMHO, DVC still works some at Disneyland in California. Certainly not as well as WDW, but at least it is Disney and is as onsite as you can get at Disneyland. I think it's weak -- particularly when compared to the competition in the timeshare field -- but that's just my opinion.

At the overseas Disney theme parks, I think DVC could enjoy a marketable advantage...with the caveat that I am not familiar with the laws in those countries regarding timeshares (which could make a DVC offering impossible). Again, the nexus is a Disney theme park.

Without the Disney theme park, I just don't see any rationale for a Disney timeshare.

To me, VB, HHI, and Aulani -- although each lovely resorts in their own way -- really don't belong because there is no there there. Great resorts, but what's the point of a Disney resort? Especially when you can buy competitive products for $1 on eBay, rather than tens of thousands of dollars for DVC!

 

[DebbieB]

Let me start out by saying that I have never rented a single reservation -- DVC or otherwise -- so I have no dog in this fight.

The biggest problem with this idea is that the people making reservations to rent ARE real owners -- who are using their personal points for a permissible purpose under the legal structures of DVC. If they get a reservation that any other DVC owner is eligible to get, they succeed not because they are renting, but because they did a better job of planning and executing than people who don't get reservations.

Also, as Dean pointed out, to deny them that ability would probably be a violation of the legal rights of all owners.

Second, what you are basically saying is that you object to people using their points in a permissible way because you object to the purpose of the reservation (renting for profit...or at least for money). The underlying assumption is that the guests staying in the villa are not DVC owners.

But how does that differ from reserving a villa for a family member who is not a DVC owner? Either renting or gifting a reservation to a family member takes a unit out of inventory. Renting is permitted by the POS, as is making a reservation for anyone without regard to whether they are owners or not. What's the difference? It's really just someone's personal perspective.

The strategy for getting the ressies you want is a) learn the system, b) plan ahead, and c) do whatever you need to do to execute your plans. The playing field is the same for everyone.

I've never rented points either and agree with you. If I rent, they are taking my place with my points that I paid dues on.

 

[missycj96]

I am waiting for a DVC either in NYC or in a short driving distance from the metro area so that we can easily do long weekends. Someday my dream will come . . . . I think many DVC members from the area would buy extra points to secure the holiday weekends.

 

[Sammie]

Before Jim Lewis left I was told Brazil was on the list, not sure about now.

My wish would be the Florida gulf coast.

 

[lisaviolet]

DVC NYC as well.

Have always wished they had kept their plans. Still hope that one day it will come.

Would stay multiple times. Dream come true.

Heck, DVC in select major cities, NYC - DC - Chicago - San Francisco - would be a joy for me. Not trading out - just using regular points.

But NYC tops the list for my dream spots.

 

[Dean]

I am waiting for a DVC either in NYC or in a short driving distance from the metro area so that we can easily do long weekends. Someday my dream will come . . . . I think many DVC members from the area would buy extra points to secure the holiday weekends.

They pulled out of the Times Square project a number of years ago along with the CO project and Newport Coast. There was also a HI option rumored at that time but it was never confirmed.

 

[bookwormde]

I would like some over water bungalows at Poly. Build some 1br/2b and GV's over water. Then have a small building with additional units. Almost like a THV over water.

Over the water rooms are comming at RC/FW DVC if they keep the currnet layout, so maybe they will consider it when they do Poly DVC, it would be great if they would wrap around towards the Contemporary, since that is such a dead area for theming. All they would have ot do it look at Bora Bora for ideas.

 

[thptrek]

Over water rooms would be so cool. Would be great in the Poly area.

 

[bbn1122]

I could think of many places, starting with the west coast of Florida and the Keys.

The D.C./Virginia area. New England and somewhere out west between the Yellowstone and Grand Canyon.

And of course a tropical island resort would be fabulous.

I love Disney for their service and attention to detail. I have enjoyed these things at WDW, DCL and HHI, so far. I would not mind more vacation choices which involve the Disney touch.

 

[ssawka]

I've always wished Disney would build a Williamsburg DVC. I know it's an overbuilt timeshare area, but I think it would be a good fit and an expanded Adventures by Disney presence would work well with day trips to DC.

Really wished we could have had Disney's America in Virginia, but politics put an end to that option.

ITA! And I also wish they would revive Disney's America. All the people in Manassas that were complaining that Disney would ruin the integrity of the battlefield now have strip malls instead!