how does disney dvc compare to "other" time share companies??

I find it scary signing a contract that allows someone to bill me whatever they please unfettered.
Welcome to Disney. Did you know that the entirety of WDW sits on land that falls within a quasi-governmental entity called the "Reedy Creek Improvement District" whose only landholding voters happen to be Disney employees?

If you want to dance with the Mouse, the Mouse calls the tune. ;)
 
Welcome to Disney. Did you know that the entirety of WDW sits on land that falls within a quasi-governmental entity called the "Reedy Creek Improvement District" whose only landholding voters happen to be Disney employees?

If you want to dance with the Mouse, the Mouse calls the tune. ;)
I'm more than happy dancing with the Mouse... (I'm a guy, so let's make it Minnie). :banana:

What difference does it make that RCID is controlled by Disney?? I'm not grasping your point. :smokin:

MG
 
Sorry, let me be more explicit.

Disney is not at all interested in giving up control over anything on property---DVC was carefully structured to make sure that none of the members would have voting rights in RCID, the land for the new fractional/whole-ownership homes and condos has been deannexed, Celebration was de-annexed, etc. That the DVC POS allows Disney to set fees with zero non-Disney oversight is another example of same.

If you want to buy a timeshare on property, you have to accept that the Mouse calls the shots, 'cause he wouldn't have it any other way. While some timeshare organizing documents call for eventual owner representation on the board, or some other form of owner oversight, DVC is not, and won't, be one of them.

To be fair, and as many have pointed out, Disney is primarily a benevelont despot, because if the members aren't happy, they are less likely to spend every discretionary dollar and moment of vacation time contributing to the company's bottom line. ;)
 
I see reference to Disney buy in being expensive, so I'm wondering how much other timeshares buy in is? Marriott, Hilton, etc.? We priced Marriott in Hilton Head, resort is on the water, but not the "unit" we priced (it wasn't even ocean view) and it was twice the price of our Disney buy in (I am speaking of prices from 8 years ago), but even at today's prices for my amount of points, Disney would be $7,000 less than what Marriott wanted (I'm speaking of buying directly through these companies) with the current incentives for SSR & AKV.

Just curious.....

Disney is incredibly expensive vs. other major ts companies on the resale market. For example, you can often buy a 2 bedroom vistana villages worth 81,000 star options for apx. 6-8k on eBay. That amount of star options will get you into every starwood timeshare. Should you want to stay on property at WDW, you just have starwood deposit a non Orlando resort into II - today I can see Boardwalk, Key West, Saratoga and Beach Club on II.

However, if you insist on buying from a developer, DVC holds their value. The question you need to ask yourself, is it worth spending so much more to be DVC. If you want multiple short stays and/or plan to primarily stay DVC, then the answer is likely yes. If you don't plan on staying DVC the majority of times and/or will likely visit for a week at a time, then the answer should be no.
 

Another aspect to this discussion if the 'right' to smoke.
DVC has (sadly) decided that smokers are criminals. What other timeshare companies are currently treating those who may wish to enjoy a cup of coffee or a beer on their balconies as the bane of humanity?
 
Another aspect to this discussion if the 'right' to smoke.
DVC has (sadly) decided that smokers are criminals. What other timeshare companies are currently treating those who may wish to enjoy a cup of coffee or a beer on their balconies as the bane of humanity?
Actually a number of chains and timeshares have gone non smoking. ALL Westin's are and all Marriott's are as well except for a handful of straggling timeshares that are slowly converting over. But non prevent smoking, only smoking in the units and in many situations, on the balcony. HI has also gone all NS and TN the same though they're still trying to figure out how it relates to timeshares. The problem with smoking in a timeshare or hotel is that there will be others in the unit later that will be affected.
 
Another aspect to this discussion if the 'right' to smoke.
DVC has (sadly) decided that smokers are criminals. What other timeshare companies are currently treating those who may wish to enjoy a cup of coffee or a beer on their balconies as the bane of humanity?
It appears to me that DVC took longer to change their policy as comparted to other timeshares.

I am not going to make this into a smoking/non-smoking topic... just stating factually that DVC held onto a smoking-allowed policy much longer than then norm.

/Jim
 
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Another aspect to this discussion if the 'right' to smoke.
DVC has (sadly) decided that smokers are criminals. What other timeshare companies are currently treating those who may wish to enjoy a cup of coffee or a beer on their balconies as the bane of humanity?

It appears to me that DVC took longer to change their policy as comparted to other timeshares.

I am not going to make this into a smoking/non-smoking topic... just stating factually that DVC held onto a smoking-allowed policy much longer than then norm.

/Jim
I agree with Jim, and PLEASE, let's keep smoking out of this thread, because the previous information in it is important to new buyers, and making it a smoking thread will only get it closed.

Now back to the subject at hand...
I think we are all pretty greatful that Disney DOES keep the value high by using ROFR. It makes reselling for profit a reality, where most other timeshares lose more than half their value the minute you sign the documents.
 
A reminder that Smoking Discussions are not allowed on the DVC boards. It is not a DVC policy, it is a WDW resort policy, and applies to all Disney World resorts. You may discuss smoking issues on the Disney Resorts board, if you wish.
 
It makes reselling for profit a reality, where most other timeshares lose more than half their value the minute you sign the documents.
I'd be careful talking about "reselling for profit". I know many OWK and BCV owners could sell today for more than they paid. But most folks who've bought in the past few years would see less (after commisison and expenses) than they paid. Stil probably a great deal given the vacations they took - but not really "reselling for profit". I'd stick to "maintain value".

PS - Different idea for a different thread, but it'll be interesting to see if CRV (and the presumably high prices Disney will ask) will increase resale prices.
 
Mousekeeping tends to come up as a topic from time to time on this board.:rolleyes1 How do some of the other timeshare companies do housekeeping? Is it similar to DVC? I am talking number of cleanings not necessarily the quality.
 
I've stayed in another Orlando timeshare and they had the same cleaning schedule as DVC. One Trash and towel during the week (although they never showed up and I had to go tweak the front desk).
 
Mousekeeping tends to come up as a topic from time to time on this board.:rolleyes1 How do some of the other timeshare companies do housekeeping? Is it similar to DVC? I am talking number of cleanings not necessarily the quality.
On average most don't have any cleaning at all. Some do have a midweek similar to DVC. There are VERY few that have daily service in the US, a few more in the Caribbean and even more in MX or similar places where labor is cheap. Even at those locations that offer daily service, many push most or all the cost over to the guest similar to the cruise lines.
 
I think they are talking about midweek cleaning. I know when we stay Marriott, sometimes we get a tidy and towels midweek and sometimes we don't.
 
Most I'm aware of offer a full cleaning between guests. Are you thinking of some that don't?
Very funny though there are some you'd wonder about.

I think they are talking about midweek cleaning. I know when we stay Marriott, sometimes we get a tidy and towels midweek and sometimes we don't.
It varies by property. Some give a midweek cleaning, some offer a pool towel exchange only, at least one doesn't even have pool towels (unless it's changed).
 
PS - Different idea for a different thread, but it'll be interesting to see if CRV (and the presumably high prices Disney will ask) will increase resale prices.

OK, do I have Disney-amnesia (perish the thought!) or what? Why do I have no idea what CRV is? :confused3
 
It's a tiny logo on cans and bottles that allows the homeless people of Southern California to make nearly six-figure incomes.

Rinkwide, you're too funny!!:lmao: :lmao:

Jennifer, I believe it stands for the much hoped for Contemporary Resort Villa's (if not, I'm sure someone will correct me.) ;)
 















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