How does a DVC resale compare to a purchase from DVC

[chuckcorden]

My wife and I are going to purchase a membership in DVC but I have a problem with Saratoga Springs Resort. I'm sure that it is a great place but, for me, it is a little distant from the parks and I'm not so interested in DTD that I want to be across the river from it. It is also quite spread out and I am not that fond of its theme (upper NY state, horse racing, etc.) In fact, I hate horse racing.

Right now I am looking at a listing of DVC resales by The Timeshare Store. Some of them (esp. the BCV and BWV ones) seem desirable. My first question is: I am sure many of you have used this "store" and purchased a DVC resale? If so, were you pleased with the service and transaction?

Can anyone give me a general description of DVC resales? I know that once the sale is made, the purchaser is treated just as if he purchased from the DVC itself. I am also looking at the Timeshare Store's FAQ.

Another question: The DVC villas at the AKL (first stage) are due to open in late 2007, I think. Is there a waiting list for those interested in purchasing an interest in them? If not, how does a person indicate to DVC that he or she is interested in purchasing points in the AKL villas?

Fourth (and I promise, final) question: Can anyone change the way I feel toward SSR?

Thanks,
Chuck

 

[JimMIA]

Here's an old thread that will help you with some of the questions, starting with the issue of the importance of home resort. You'll see that my personal take on home resort is that it's critical for many folks and not at all important for others...depends on you.
http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=778634

Bear in mind that this thread is more than a year old, so the prices, incentives, etc, are not current.

With regard to TTS, I have purchased through them and many others here have. They were great with us -- very responsive, very knowledgeable, and probably the key to our resale going through. I highly recommend them.

 

[Chuck S]

Remember that there still is nothing "official" from DVC regarding AKV, no indication of when pre-sales may start, price, or point charts. Often existing DVC members have a window for new resort purchases before they begin sales to the general public.

While the Condo style resorts (OKW and SSR) don't appeal to everyone, there are those of us that prefer them over the DVC villas that are attached to regular WDW resorts...you may simply be a person that prefers the villas that are associated with a regular hotel.

Do bear inmind that any resale you purchase through the timeshare other than SSR (since AKV is not yet available) will have an ending date of January 2042, SSR will have use until January 2054, so an additional 12 years, if you are of an age where that will be an advantage to you.

Other than that, you will be treated the same by DVC/Disney whether you purchase through resale or direct...unlike some other timeshares that have "perks" for buying direct. Since I purchased in the early years of DVC, all of my purchases were direct from Disney, so I have no personal experience with resale brokers. But given the many threads I've read over the years, I would have no problem using the Timeshare Store.

 

[Granny]

I'm sure that it is a great place but, for me, it is a little distant from the parks and I'm not so interested in DTD that I want to be across the river from it. It is also quite spread out and I am not that fond of its theme (upper NY state, horse racing, etc.) In fact, I hate horse racing.

Almost assuredly you should avoid purchasing points at SSR. It sounds like you will be disappointed if you have to spend many of your trips at SSR.

On the other hand, if you are not regularly planning and making reservations at least 7-11 months ahead of your trip, then it doesn't make much difference where you buy as all DVC resort points are the same within 7 months of a trip.

Another question: The DVC villas at the AKL (first stage) are due to open in late 2007, I think. Is there a waiting list for those interested in purchasing an interest in them? If not, how does a person indicate to DVC that he or she is interested in purchasing points in the AKL villas?

You can call the DVC general number at 1-800-500-3990 and they'll assign you a Guide (salesperson). Tell the Guide you are interested and they'll put you in the system as interested and will call you when the sales begin.

 

[skibum]

1) Have not purchased resale, but TTS is well-respected, as well as being a sponsor of these boards. The owner, Tom, is an active member of these boards, is very responsive to the needs of DIS members, and goes out of his way to correct problems - even those that have nothing to do with him or his company.

2) TTS can walk you through the whole process. Some contracts come with banked points while others are 'stripped'. Look for something that has extra points. Let the folks at TTS know exactly what you want, and they will let you know when they find it. Just be prepared to purchase instantly when they call you with a contract that meets your needs.

3) I talked with my guide last week, and they have no info on AKV yet. He said that those on the DIS boards know as much as he does at this time. My recommendation would be to contact your guide and let him know that you are interested - that way when things start to happen, they will call you up.

4) We bought SSR sight unseen, after being ROFR'ed on a resale. We did the math, and determined that SSR was a better value (for us) with the extra 12 years and lowest maintenance fees. We were confident that Disney would provide a quality product, and have not been disappointed. It does have a great pool, and being close to DTD means more dining options. We are no longer spending all our time in the parks, so this gives us something else to do. We like being able to park near the door. Plus, we still have the ability to stay at the other resorts at the 7 month window. But if we 'have' to stay at SSR, we will not be disappointed - we are happy just to be on-site, and have been happy even at the All-Stars and POP. We did purchase a small add-on at the BCV just to guarantee that we could stay there occasionally.

If you must have BWV or BCV, I would recommend you purchase there. Remember, you can also purchase those resorts direct from Disney.
Good luck with your decision-making process!

 

[chuckcorden]

If you must have BWV or BCV, I would recommend you purchase there. Remember, you can also purchase those resorts direct from Disney.
Good luck with your decision-making process!

Thank you for your great advice. I have one question tho, How could I buy a BCV or a BWV direct from Disney?

I thought those kinds of sales were closed or to put it another way, I thought these locations were filled. Am I incorrect in my assumption. If I am, that puts a whole different spin on my decision to purchase from DCV.

Thanks, again.
Chuck

 

[skibum]

Tell your guide you do not want SSR, and want to purchase at your preferred location. They do have points to sell (acquired when they ROFR somebody), and if they do not have what you want at that time, they will get them for you (may take a while).
Minimum purchase is 150 points at $95/point. Plus, through Disney, you can put it on a credit card, getting points, cash-back...
Just call your guide and talk to them. Be honest about what you want, and they will make it work for you. Very low pressure, almost no-pressure.
Good luck!!

 

[Granny]

Tell your guide you do not want SSR, and want to purchase at your preferred location. They do have points to sell (acquired when they ROFR somebody), and if they do not have what you want at that time, they will get them for you (may take a while).
Minimum purchase is 150 points at $95/point. Plus, through Disney, you can put it on a credit card, getting points, cash-back...
Just call your guide and talk to them. Be honest about what you want, and they will make it work for you. Very low pressure, almost no-pressure.
Good luck!!

Just in the name of full disclosure, be prepared for a fairly strenuous effort from the Guide to dissuade you from buying anything except SSR. That is the resort they are being told to promote since Disney makes more money on a new sale vs selling something they had to pay through ROFR. Some guides have reportedly been very adament about not having other resorts available.

Tell the guide nicely but firmly that you don't want SSR (if that is your decision) and stick to your guns. You might indicate that if he/she won't sell them to you that you will have to go purchase through resale. Be prepared for another "discussion" telling you about the problems with resale. At some point, thank them for their input but insist on the resort that you want. If they refuse to work with you, call back the general number and ask to be assigned a new salesperson.

Good luck!

 

[lisaviolet]

Just in the name of full disclosure, be prepared for a fairly strenuous effort from the Guide to dissuade you from buying anything except SSR. That is the resort they are being told to promote since Disney makes more money on a new sale vs selling something they had to pay through ROFR. Some guides have reportedly been very adament about not having other resorts available.

Tell the guide nicely but firmly that you don't want SSR (if that is your decision) and stick to your guns. You might indicate that if he/she won't sell them to you that you will have to go purchase through resale. Be prepared for another "discussion" telling you about the problems with resale. At some point, thank them for their input but insist on the resort that you want. If they refuse to work with you, call back the general number and ask to be assigned a new salesperson.

Good luck!

Ditto. The DVC guides run the gamut...

Some will simply give you the information about the "sold out" resorts as soon as you say you want them.

Others will insist (and insist...and insist) that they can only sell you SSR even when you say you will not buy it. Which I'm sure they are trained to do but very frustrating in some cases.

Just know that and hopefully it will be very simple for you. I helped a potential DVCer get a "sold out" resort when her guide simply refused to acknowledge it was possible not to buy SSR. And she pushed politely and told him she knew they sold them. She wanted to deal with Disney but got nowhere with her guide and changed guides.

All the best and congratulations,

Lisa

 

[markII]

I just got back from SSR 8 nights there, 2 nights at AKL. SSR has more of a condo feel, it is spread out. If you are using DVC off season you will never have to look at SSR, since there will be plenty of room at any other resort for your points use 7 mos out to reserve. I think AKL will be over $100 a point whereas SSR is now selling for $86 if you have a DVC mbr as a referral.. I'm not real crazy about the horse race or NY theme either, I like OKW or Wilderness lodge much better, but like I said, unless you want to go there peak season if doesnt matter what your home resort is. Go for a resale but make sure all the cose costs etc dont hurt too much.. buying 'new' seems pretty painless...

 

[rie'smom]

Thank you for your great advice. I have one question tho, How could I buy a BCV or a BWV direct from Disney?

I thought those kinds of sales were closed or to put it another way, I thought these locations were filled. Am I incorrect in my assumption. If I am, that puts a whole different spin on my decision to purchase from DCV.

Thanks, again.
Chuck

DH bought DVC for me earlier this month. My guide,Julie was great. She answered the phone,I said I only wanted to buy BWV and that I wanted 2- 150 pt contracts with the same use month and it took less time than it's taking me to type this sentence. I got no hard sell at all about SSR. All she told me was that there was a special.
The thing that I liked about dealing direct with Disney is they have all the available stock right in front of them. At first,I thought we would buy from resale but it got to be a hassle trying to find the pts. I wanted with the same use month. The extra $$ were worth it to me to avoid the aggravation.Good Luck with your decision.

 

[chuckcorden]

If you are using DVC off season you will never have to look at SSR, since there will be plenty of room at any other resort for your points use 7 mos out to reserve.

Plenty of room? I certainly hope so. I bought into SSR for all the reasons that have been enumerated on this board and others but I would have preferred BCV or BWV because of their closeness to EPCOT.

Chuck

 

[Disney Doll]

My wife and I are going to purchase a membership in DVC but I have a problem with Saratoga Springs Resort. I'm sure that it is a great place but, for me, it is a little distant from the parks and I'm not so interested in DTD that I want to be across the river from it. It is also quite spread out and I am not that fond of its theme (upper NY state, horse racing, etc.) In fact, I hate horse racing.

Right now I am looking at a listing of DVC resales by The Timeshare Store. Some of them (esp. the BCV and BWV ones) seem desirable. My first question is: I am sure many of you have used this "store" and purchased a DVC resale? If so, were you pleased with the service and transaction?

Can anyone give me a general description of DVC resales? I know that once the sale is made, the purchaser is treated just as if he purchased from the DVC itself. I am also looking at the Timeshare Store's FAQ.

Another question: The DVC villas at the AKL (first stage) are due to open in late 2007, I think. Is there a waiting list for those interested in purchasing an interest in them? If not, how does a person indicate to DVC that he or she is interested in purchasing points in the AKL villas?

Fourth (and I promise, final) question: Can anyone change the way I feel toward SSR?

Thanks,
Chuck

DH & I purchased our first set of points through Disney and our second set through TTS. Our TTS agent was Pat Spell and we were quite pleased with the whole experience. About 6 weeks start to finish, everyone we dealt with was very professional. I'd recommend them.

DVC resales-if you make it past ROFR and purchase a resale, once you own it, there is no difference in treatment, perks or whatever from a contract purchased through DVC.

VAKL waiting list-I would recommend you call the DVC and ask them if there is a waiting list and how do you get on it?

Changing your SSR feelings- No, and why should we? DVC offers many different styles/themes of resorts just for that reason...because not everyone will like the same thing.

Good luck with your purchase. DH & I have owned since 1997 and we have never regretted our purchase.

 

[2infinityandbeyond]

Just in the name of full disclosure, be prepared for a fairly strenuous effort from the Guide to dissuade you from buying anything except SSR. That is the resort they are being told to promote since Disney makes more money on a new sale vs selling something they had to pay through ROFR. Some guides have reportedly been very adament about not having other resorts available.

Tell the guide nicely but firmly that you don't want SSR (if that is your decision) and stick to your guns. You might indicate that if he/she won't sell them to you that you will have to go purchase through resale. Be prepared for another "discussion" telling you about the problems with resale. At some point, thank them for their input but insist on the resort that you want. If they refuse to work with you, call back the general number and ask to be assigned a new salesperson.

Good luck!

"Stick to your guns" is excellent advice. When I took the tour a few months ago, I told the guide immediately that I was only interested in BWV or BCV. He did try to sell me on SSR (suggesting that, after I told him how much we love the Epcot resort area, but for a few certain weeks during the year we could book wherever we wanted at 7 months) so I told him point blank, "The first time I can't stay at BWV or BCV will be when I'll regret an SSR purchase." He understood and dropped the SSR sales pitch. He was very nice about it. Just doing his job trying to push SSR.