How do You Handle Bad Service in a Restaurant?

vhoffman

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Eating out is one of our favorite forms of entertainment, and, we usually eat out way too often, shrinking our wallet and increasing our waistlines!

However, lately we seem to have had a run of bad service. Different restaurants, different times. Note I said the service was bad, not the food. In all cases, the food was quite good and we ate all of it. However, we felt we had to actually get into a confrontation with the waiter/management just to get our meal served right. I'm really not the type who goes to restaurants looking for a fight--I just want to have a good time. I'm even tolerant of simple mistakes. I feel its sometimes better to overlook a simple mistake rather than get everyone upset by arguing about it. I've often accepted errors on the part of the waiter, such as a coke instead of iced tea, or refilling my flavored iced tea with the "regular" kind, or bringing a baked potato with "everything", rather than just the sour cream and cheese I ordered. Really, its not a big deal. I also try to teach my kids to treat waiters with respect, ma'am or sir, please, thank you, etc., and not to jump all over them for an honest mistake. However, honest mistakes are one thing, flat out bad service is another.

Last night I was out with just my children. The restaurant wasn't crowded. The waitress had a surly attitude from the beginning. She brought an incomplete order--missing several essential items. My daughter wanted steak sauce, son wanted ketchup, and I needed a refill on tea, plus, none of us had water, and we didn't have any silverware! In short, we couldn't proceed with our meal. I shouldn't have had to point out all the mistakes and ask them to be corrected, serving the meal properly was her job! Well, I mentioned the silverware, she literally growled "sorry" then flounced off and proceeded to take a new order at another table! We got up and found silverware at another table. I tried flagging her down several times. By now our food was getting cold and we proceeded to eat without the condiments we wanted, and nothing to drink. The waitress passed our table several times, but never stopped. She proceeded to take another new order at a table next to ours. I interrupted her and asked that she finish our order before taking new ones. She just glared at me and walked off. In short, she was refusing to serve us!

I found a manager and asked that another waitress be assigned to us to complete our meal. We again waited several minutes. By this time, we just wanted to get out of there. We weren't interested in eating. Finally a manager came over and asked what the problem was. I was so upset I didn't even want to explain--I just wanted out of there. She kept insisting we tell her the problem, so she could "correct" it. I kept asking for the bill. She insisted we wouldn't pay, and she would bring us a free dessert. I insisted on paying--we had eaten the food, we pay for it. Finally she brought us a bill, which I paid minus a tip, of course.

I feel if the food is bad, the offer to take care of the bill is valid. However, I really don't feel comfortable eating a meal and walking away without paying because the service is bad. I feel that is what the tip is for. That's also why waitresses work for less than minimum wage and essentially depend on tips for their income. Bad service=no tip, hence, they earn their pay. Otherwise, they could just treat everyone like we were last night and still get paid, there'd be no incentive to treat the customers right.

Well, if you just received bad service, but the food was at least adequate and you ate it, would you feel comfortable with the offer just to not pay the entire tab? Or would you feel it was enough simply not to leave a tip? I know some people deliberately find fault with something just to get a free meal, and I certainly don't want to look like a bum.

Well, what can you do when a waitress just stops serving you, like what happened to us last night? Bring an incomplete order, then proceed to wait on others, and just ignore our repeated requests for the same thing? I tried to handle it in a gracious manner, asking for another waitress, but it just reached a point where I couldn't put up with the lousey treatment anymore. Would I have been justified in taking their offer of a free meal? Or was it better just to not leave a tip, and, of course, never go back there? Like I said, it seems we have had a run of bad luck lately with restaurants lately. Kind of makes me dread our upcoming trip to Hawaii-its for 16 days. That's 16 days of eating in restaurants! We are staying in condos with kitchens and plan to eat in at least part of the time anyways to save money. I just hope we don't run into such service while on our vacation. Really, you're at the mercy of the wait staff for every little thing and your only recourse is to not leave a tip. However, you walk away hungry and pi$$ed--hardly a vacation!
 
I think it would have been better to factually explain to the manager (who seemed to be begging you to tell her) exactly what the problem was so she could have dealt with the waitress in whatever way was appropriate.

You were upset and you left no tip, but neither the waitress nor the manager really knows what went wrong.

When the manager offers to comp a meal, there's nothing wrong with graciously accepting it.
 
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When we have bad service if the waiter or manager don't do anything, my husband writes letters to the chain and the individual restaurant.
For example last night we went out for dinner and my chicken parmesean was ice cold. The waiter was EXCELLENT and removed it and had a brand new one made for me. I know it wasn't heated in a microwave because I used to be a waitress and trust me I know when that happens. He gave me my sweet potatoe fries on a small plate to start while the rest was cooking. He went out of his way and that is what I used to do when I was a waitress.


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Whether we have a great waiter or a very bad one, we tell the manager. If the waiter is verrrry slow, I will ask someone (often the manager) for items like refills on drinks. That generally gets the waiter to show up more often.

We don't eat out often - I'd rather save the money and cook at home. But either exceptional or horrid service should be mentioned to the manager. If it's not taken care of at all, then definitely write to the restaurant.

Denise
 

We had really bad service in the Disney restaurant at Vero (cant remember the name of the place). There were 8 of us so the tip was automatically added to the bill. We didnt want to pay the tip. We told the server (politely) and he said we had no choice. The receipt quite clearly stated optional service charge 18% added for parties of 8 or more and we pointed out it was optional therefore we could choose not to pay it. He insisted the optional meant we could pay more than 18% if we wanted but not less.

We asked to see the manager - he said the same as the waiter. We were not happy but ended up paying. We voted with our feet for the rest of the week at Vero and ate off site for every meal.
 
WebmasterKathy said:
I think it would have been better to factually explain to the manager (who seemed to be begging you to tell her) exactly what the problem was so she could have dealt with the waitress in whatever way was appropriate.

You were upset and you left no tip, but neither the waitress nor the manager really knows what went wrong.

When the manager offers to comp a meal, there's nothing wrong with graciously accepting it.

I agree with this 100%. A restaurant meal is more than just food. The service is part of the experience (and really the main reason you're paying a premium for the food). If the service is downright horrible it is perfectly reasonable for the restaurant to comp you the meal. It served absolutely no purpose to insist on paying!

That said, it's also only fair to explain the problem in detail to the manager. I can understand being so frustrated that you just want to leave, but really, how can the restaurant fix the problem if you won't tell them what happened? My guess is that the server would have been looking for a new job after you explained the whole situation... and she should be. Clearly this line of work is not for her.

Mary
 
I am a very service oriented person, so I'm not afraid to speak up when service is unacceptable. Little mistakes don't bother me - everyone has an "off day" & no one is perfect, but your experience is unacceptable. I personally would have accepted the manager's offer to take care of your bill. You weren't ASKING for them to take care of it, they OFFERED. Sometimes that is the only way it "hits home" to organizations that they need to address their service issues.

This actually happened to me this weekend with my daughter's b-day party. The place we had it had messed things up from calling me two weeks ago saying they didn't write our party down (when I booked over 8 weeks ago) & double booked us (when they have 6 party rooms, but only 2 parties booked) :confused3 & wanted us to change the time, they didn't have the themed party goods set out when they set up the room - then some snotty teenager :snooty: came in & "dropped off" the princess party goods expecting me to put them out, and finally, when they took the cake to the room, it slid into the side of the box so half of of the icing on one side was off! Now I made this cake & spent about 5 hours decorating it, so I was IRATE at this point. :furious: Luckily, I had brought extra icing just in case, but I made sure I spoke to the girl who carried the cakes up as well as the General Manager & owner about the situations. For a $300 birthday party (I was splitting the cost w/ another mom as we had a joint b-day party) - I expected near PERFECT service. So by the time I got through with them about the cake, they took half off our party - without me even asking. :woohoo: I normally am not one who seeks out getting something for free, but there are times when it is justified.

If the the service is horendous, whether you eat the food or not, don't leave a tip, and if the manager OFFERS to take care of the bill for you, take it. THAT is good customer service, and I'm much more apt to return to an establishment who tries to take care of my issues than one that doesn't even attempt it. But the key is letting them know. The employee, manager, and establishment cannot improve without that feedback.
 
I wrote a letter this past week about a horrid dining experience we had on Tuesday. I *wish* the manager had offered to comp the check, but no such luck. Suffice it to say that our "doggie bag" was precisely that...$20 steaks dumped in the dog dish. I was charged for 3 kids meals (2 kids, but one wanted mac and cheese instead of fries and got no other 'extras' on the reg kids meals, but were still charged for the m&c as though it were a meal), we got 2 rolls for a family of 4, refills were slow, meals were all brought out at different times, with the kids coming last, after DH and I had appetizers/salad and had asked for them to go ahead and bring the kids' food. It was a comedy of errors, only it wasn't funny. The whole ordeal took 2 1/2 hours.

In your case, I would have detailed every problem to the manager, and you bet I would have taken the comp on the check. It is the whole restaurant's responsibility to provide you with excellent service, from the owner to the dishwasher and if any part of that is lacking, the restaurant should pay, not just the server.
 
Perhaps I should have taken the comp for the meal. However, I had a friend many years ago who deliberately looked for fault any time she was in a restaurant just to get a free meal. It was such an embarassment just to be with her. That's why she's a "former" friend. I do feel awkward eating a meal then expecting to get it for free.

I did explain the problem to the first manager I approached. I had to get up and track him down, no one ever came to our table to see how things were. He said he'd get someone. Several minutes went by before anyone even approached the table. I was at the point of tears with frustration--I wanted to take my kids out for a special treat and it ended up like that. I guess I just didn't want to be bothered explaining all the ins and outs of the situation--I had to endure it, I didn't want to relive it by explaining it. The offer of a free dessert just didn't appeal, either. It would have meant sitting there longer, when I just wanted to get out. Also, I read about someone who was offered a "comp" of a free meal for bad service, then the police were called saying that she refused to pay. She was followed and actually arrested (guess they got her license plate number!).

In my opinion, there's nothing a restaurant can do to make up for a bad situation such as the one we had last night. Just get out of there and never go back. Oh, and writing letters I've found is just a waste of time. Well, that's my take on it! Also, the free meal offer is a matter of pride--I pay for what I eat, I'm not a bum!
 
As to the comment that the waitress didn't know what was wrong, well, if she didn't know how to serve a meal its not my job to explain it to her. I mean, I asked repeatedly for the same things--water, silverware, missing items, such as bread, condiments, how could she have not know what was wrong? :confused3

I also just didn't feel like ruining the kids evening by getting into an arguement with the manager. That's how I felt it would go if I explained "what was wrong". I just wanted out of there!
 
Just a couple of quick things:

ALWAYS tell the manager why you had a bad experience!! They have no other way to fix the problem.

Even though the resturaunt isn't crowded doesn't mean the sever isn't busy. She may have been one of the only servers on at the time. While this is no excuse for the horrible service you recived it sound like she may have been busy ( Example - taking a few new table orders )

While you should not have been ignored, I have to say that interupting her and asking her to finish your order first was kind of rude. I myself would have been very put off by this. Waiting on tables involves a lot of multi tasking and sometimes things slip their minds.

If they offer to comp your meal you should accept it. And if service was so poor you didn't even eat, don't leave a tip
 
I told her when she brought the meal that it was incomplete--although I shouldn't have had to do so, that's her job! But I did politely point out to her the missing items. I also sat there in utter frustration watching her wait on other tables and ignore our requests. I asked her several times for the missing items as she wizzed by (never stopped at our table to see if we wanted anything). I "interrupted" her while taking a new order only after trying several times in other, more "polite" ways, to get her to finish our order. How could it have "slipped her mind" that she hadn't completed an order, especially after I had reminded her, politely, several times? Please remember, we were sitting there with a meal going cold that we couldn't eat for lack of basic items, like silverware. We were sitting there hungry, watching our food go cold, and having a waitress "put us on hold". Kind of hard to be "polite", there's only so much garbage someone can be expected to take!

Like I said, I was just by myself and kids, without my husband. Usually he handles such situations. He just politely excuses himself from the table, seeks out the manager, explains the situation and requests a new server. The whole thing is transparent to the other guests at the table. Well, I attempted the same thing, seeking out a manager and requesting another server (I did explain the situation to him). However, another manager comes by several minutes later to the table, wanting an explanation. I felt I had explained enough. I didn't want a confrontation in front of my kids. I also didn't want a free meal. I just wanted a meal served appropriately, with a different waitress. I guess I just felt put on the spot when I was trying to handle it as best I could without getting into a tiff. I even tell my children not to get upset over every little thing, its not worth it. However, having a waitress just refuse to serve you is going over the top. Ok, next time I will take the comp, but maybe just for the dessert. Or just start all over again with a fresh meal, a new waitress, a free dessert, and, of course, pay for the meal. If a new waitress was assigned, I fully intended to tip her generously. I guess my husband always handles such things, its awkward for me to do so.

Like I said, we seem to be having a run of bad luck lately with restaurants. Different restaurants, different times, etc. Seems like we feel we are "bothering" the wait staff to do their job. Like I said, I'm really not hard to please and oftentimes let little mistakes go by. I realize waiting tables is a difficult job and its not my desire to ruin someone's night, or perhaps get them fired, over a simple misunderstanding (for example, I oftentimes get Ranch Dressing when I order French, or vice versa. Ok, they do sound alike, especially in a crowded restaurant. Either one is ok). Once the waiter brought totally wrong meals--they weren't even close to what we had ordered. We didn't realize it at the time he brought it, we were busy talking. It was only after eating about half of it we realized it wasn't what we had ordered. However, it was very good and we enjoyed it. The waiter realized his mistake and wanted to comp us the bill, but we refused. We did eat it, without a single complaint, it would hardly be fair to expect it to be a "freebie". We were having a good time and didn't want to spoil it by complaining, expecially when we honestly did enjoy the food. We did let him bring us free coffee.

However, an honest mistake is different than just refusing to serve someone, which is essentially what happened last night. Well, we will just cross them off our list. Hopefully the next experience will be better.

Maybe I didn't make the intent of my post clear. some of you agree with me about how I handled the situation and some don't. I don't mean to discuss last night's incident in particular, more, I'm interested in how others handle bad service in a restaurant. Like my husband, seeking out the manager away from the table and explaining the situation and getting a resolution without upsetting everyone else while at the table. what are some tacts others use?
 
Starting point for decent food but bad service: At the end of the meal, get the manager and explain the problem completely. Then propose (i.e. make an offer of) a third off the food bill. The expectation is to end up paying the amount of the food and zero tip which is equal to splitting the difference. Then get a receipt. The credit card slip will do.

At least half the reason for bringing a discount into the discussion is to "get heads rolling upstairs" (PM me for an explanation).

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vhoffman said:
Also, the free meal offer is a matter of pride--!
Good managers offer to comp. meals when a mishap or miscue happens because they have pride in their restaurant.
 
To be honest I never complain, I am afraid they will spit in my food or drink this time or if I go back remeber me and do that. I just bite the bullet finish dinner, if another drink or condiment is needed I ask nicely then tipe time I do not give as much as usual, dont forget these waiters/waitresses are human too and could of had a bad day
 
I usually tip in a 10% to 20% range, genrally toward the upper end. On occasion, if the service so warrants I will tip outside of the range. Whether it is up or down I will ask for and talk to the manager, explaining why I tipped outside the range. Sometimes I have been given something by the manager to get a free meal on my next visit, usually if the service has been poor.

If the service is so screwed up that the food cannot be eaten I will ask for the manager; if necessary I will get up and start searching.

But then sometimes, such as this past Thanksgiving when I was trapped out of town and ended up having dinner in a Denny's, I left the waitress a $20 bill as a tip on an $11 meal. I felt there was no need to talk to the manager since I was on my way out the door when she saw the tip and started showing it to other staff there.
 
Well, I mentioned the silverware, she literally growled "sorry" then flounced off and proceeded to take a new order at another table! We got up and found silverware at another table.

You needed silverware, she didn't get it, you took care of it. Not great service from her, but it doesn't sound like that was anything to get so frustrated you were tongue-tied over it. That's exactly what I would have done- found the silverware myself. No biggie.

What else did you need- a refill on your drink, steak sauce and ketchup? I think I would have just asked that first manager you approached to find someone to get those things.

I might have been annoyed with the waitress, and she would probably not be pleased with her tip. But I don't think this would have frustrated me to the point of being speechless... not at a casual/family type restaurant.

Now, at an expensive/special occasion sort of place- COMPLETELY unacceptable.
 
Basically you never really got your "full meal".. I would have told the manager exactly what happened and accepted her offer of not paying the bill.. And it goes without saying that the waitress would not have received a tip..
 
WebmasterKathy said:
You needed silverware, she didn't get it, you took care of it. Not great service from her, but it doesn't sound like that was anything to get so frustrated you were tongue-tied over it. That's exactly what I would have done- found the silverware myself. No biggie.

What else did you need- a refill on your drink, steak sauce and ketchup? I think I would have just asked that first manager you approached to find someone to get those things.

I might have been annoyed with the waitress, and she would probably not be pleased with her tip. But I don't think this would have frustrated me to the point of being speechless... not at a casual/family type restaurant.

Now, at an expensive/special occasion sort of place- COMPLETELY unacceptable.
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While it may not have been necessary to become tongue-tied over it, no one should have to get up and find their own silverware.. No one should have to go without a refill if they desire one and no one should have to eat their meal without the condiments that make the meal enjoyable to them..

That's just silly.. Why even go out to eat? She would have made out better at home..
 
As a former server, I DO NOT put up with bad service and on the flipside, I always reward "over and above" service.


I always make sure I know the server's name. For bad service, I leave NO tip. For excellent service, I have been know to leave 100%. I then call the next day and speak to the manager, using the server's name and explain what I had bad service, or thank them for an excellent experience.
 


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