how do you feel about the

I will be seeing with my dd and her friends. They are all 13.

I love Depp and Burton so no issue with creepy for me. Then again I am a supernatural junky. The creepier, the better. :rotfl:
 
I love Tim Burton and, yes, I plan on going to see Alice this weekend. My big surprise was that when I mentioned it, DH asked if he could come along. He really doesn't enjoy going to the theater to see movies so I was surprised!
 
I like creepy. ;)
I'm glad Pixar is not doing this one.
 
I don't like Tim Burton movies at all. No one in our family will be seeing it.
 

Can't wait to see it, in fact we're driving 100 miles to the closest IMAX next weekend just for the movie:laughing:
 
One part of me wants to see it and the other says, "No way!!!! It is too creepy." I am not sure which side will win out.
 
I'm happy they are being true to the book rather than going Disneyesque which has already been done. Carroll was a drug addict and the book is really dark and weird-fun weird as far as I'm concerned but weird indeed. The Alice returns idea is pretty cool too!
Yes, good points. Disney conceptually corrupted Alice in Wonderland by sanitizing it -- this presentation looks to be truer to the original intent.

The same sort of thing happened with Sherlock Holmes. For many iterations, there has been a reticence to present Holmes the way he was written, as an opium addict.

While there is a place for the "Disneyfied" version of things, it is important to remember that those versions are corruptions. The "rightful" presentation may not be suitable for children.
 
I'm happy they are being true to the book rather than going Disneyesque which has already been done. Carroll was a drug addict and the book is really dark and weird-fun weird as far as I'm concerned but weird indeed. The Alice returns idea is pretty cool too!

No he wasn't a drug addict, that is a myth.

The photographs he took of children he would be locked up for now though.
 
I'm happy they are being true to the book rather than going Disneyesque which has already been done. Carroll was a drug addict and the book is really dark and weird-fun weird as far as I'm concerned but weird indeed. The Alice returns idea is pretty cool too!

I did not know that. What is funny is that I have ALWAYS said that when when I would try to watch Alice in Wonderland I'd feel like I'm on some weird hallucinogenic drug (NOT that I would know, of course)
 
No he wasn't a drug addict, that is a myth.

The photographs he took of children he would be locked up for now though.

Really? Would love to read some supporting evidence on either side of that argument. My understanding was that the book was an allegory for drug use.
 
Really? Would love to read some supporting evidence on either side of that argument. My understanding was that the book was an allegory for drug use.

Hard to prove a negative. I have read various biographies of Lewis Carroll and I have never seen any mention of drug usage or addiction.

I I have always taken at face value the statements by Mr. Carroll and Alice Liddell (sic?) concerning the basis for the book.
 
I am really looking forward to this movie. The original book is not nearly as cheery as the Disney original. It is much the same with Charlie and the Chocolate factory. The new version is much truer to the original book but most people equate the original movie to the story instead.

I am a big fan of Burton and Depp and love their work together.

Exactly. It (IMO) is a very dark story.

I'm looking forward to a version that leans more towards the book. :thumbsup2
 
Alice in Wonderland, a dark story written by a drug addict?

Hmm. All I can say is: "Honi soit qui mal y pense!"
 
Ok. "Alice in Wonderland" and "Through the Looking Glass" are both (and I'm lumping them together here) my absolute favorite stories. BUT everything I've read about this movie is that its not based on the original book, I mean not in the literal sense. I guess this could be considered a spoiler, but its no more then what movie reviewers say but..

In this version Alice goes back to wonderland, not like in "Through the Looking Glass," but a whole new story. In this version she barely remembers her time in wonderland. I think some characters are included in the story that aren't usually in the movie versions (like the jaberwocky) but I don't know how I feel about this story. Entertainment Weekly had an article with Tim Burton and he said he never really read the book and he mostly looked at illustrations and stuff. Basically said he wasn't a fan.

Anyway, I don't know how I feel about all this, but I'm going to see it anyway. I usually really like Tim Burton stuff and I love Alice movies/TV stuff.
 
1. I like Tim Burton. His work is not "creepy", it is good interpretation of already creepy stories. Coraline scared me when I read it. Roald Dahl is a seriously freaky writer. Wonderland is a frightening place. We'll probably go see this even though the reviews aren't great so far.

2. The "Alice returns thing" is not something special and new made up for this movie, it appears to be a mixing of Alice's Adventures in Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass and What Alice Found There. In fact, I'm rather disturbed that Burton would deviate from the original framework of the book. If you want to do Through the Looking Glass, please be my guest. I'd be happy to see Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dee reciting long nonsense poems, the lion and the unicorn duking it out, and the mock turtle bemaoning his soupy fate. However, don't try to repackage parts of it as Alice in Wonderland. The Queen of Hearts cuts people's head off, the Red Queen is a cat (sort of) who runs really fast.

3. No, Lewis Carrol probably was not on drugs while he was writing his stories, however, drug use was very common in those days. One cannot really say whether or not he was an addict. Such things were accepted practices for men of quality. Certainly, it seems as though he was well aware of the drug culture of the time and we could argue for hours about whether the caterpillar is smoking tobacco in his hookah or something else as he instructs Alice how to change herself by eating mushrooms. Carroll didn't leave an instruction manual for his books; if he did we'd know whether he was making political commentary by putting a dodo in his caucus race or just being silly, but we don't. In the same way, we cannot really say whether his fondness for children was "deviant". We weren't there, and it's just not something that really came up in his saved correspondence.

4. I like both Willy Wonkas. Two of my favorite quotes in all moviedom are:

"We are the music makers and we are the dreamers of dreams."

and

"Everything in this room is eatable, even I'm eatable! But that is called "cannibalism," my dear children, and is in fact frowned upon in most societies."
 
I'm interested in seeing the movie but I'll probably wait until it comes out on DVD.

My neice's boyfriend worked on the movie. He specializes in water effects so anything to do with a liquid might have been done by him. As a side note, he's also been working on special effects on the new Harry Potter ride.
 
Hard to prove a negative. I have read various biographies of Lewis Carroll and I have never seen any mention of drug usage or addiction.

I I have always taken at face value the statements by Mr. Carroll and Alice Liddell (sic?) concerning the basis for the book.

As a specialist in Victorian literature, I would like to jump in. The belief that Carroll used recreational drugs to enhance his writing is a complete myth. No evidence exists among any of Carroll's letters, papers, etc. that he was a drug user or supporter. He had a vivid imagaination. That's it.

I confess, also, that as a huge fan of the Alice books, I'm not very excited about the new Burton film. It just seems "creepy" to me, rather than really inventive. However, H.B. Carter's performance might just get me to go, anyway--I really enjoy seeing her act.
 

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