How come hispanic isn't a race anymore

zumbergc

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We are filling out the census form, and hispanic isn't an option. The same thing happened when we were filling out forms for adopting a child. We were confused then, hispanic isn't a choice. I get the fact that hispanic people can come in all kinds of colors, but I don't get what's up with the category gone in the race category.

Why isn't hispanic a race anymore?

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I didn't notice that. I just looked online and you are correct although I don't know that Hispanic has ever been a "race" and is more a nationality but still, it isn't on there. There is an "other" category though. I wonder if it is because there are so many illegal Hispanics in the country that they want them to fill out the form without fear?? :confused3
 
As far as vital records is concerned Hispanic is not a race. I worked in the funeral industry for a while and on a death certificate it is often separated out for statistical reasons but it is not an option for a race.
 

It's an ethnicity.

Yep. Although it is more of a group of ethnicities that are pooled into a category. It is a bit like Scandinavian, Latin, or Germanic. Just like someone can be Mexican and Hispanic one can be Norse and Scandinavian.
 
You know I learned this on the dis- that Hispanics are considered white.
So it's an ethnicity not a race. It was news to DH.
HOWEVER almost every single form we have to fill out the options are "White/non-hispanic" and "hispanic" differenciated.
So DH and I are not Inter-ratial after all. Although we are always told we are by strangers. SUPRISE!
 
Not to burst your bubble, ;)
but wouldn't you fit into the category of "Other"?
 
You know I learned this on the dis- that Hispanics are considered white.
So it's an ethnicity not a race. It was news to DH.
HOWEVER almost every single form we have to fill out the options are "White/non-hispanic" and "hispanic" differenciated.
So DH and I are not Inter-ratial after all. Although we are always told we are by strangers. SUPRISE!

DITTO :thumbsup2
 
You know I learned this on the dis- that Hispanics are considered white.
So it's an ethnicity not a race. It was news to DH.
HOWEVER almost every single form we have to fill out the options are "White/non-hispanic" and "hispanic" differenciated.
So DH and I are not Inter-ratial after all. Although we are always told we are by strangers. SUPRISE!

Actually hispanics may be of any race.
 
I think it's a purely political decision. If the census doesn't count Latinos, then no government sponsored, accurate count of Latinos exists. This whole race vs. ethnicity thing is kinda unthought out, really. Race is really a political thing in this country.

By one set of arguments on the board, Latino is just an ethnicity like German American is. That really doesn't make sense to me. Latinos don't come from one country or one region. The comparison to German American would be Cuban American or Mexican American or Peruvian American, not Latino.

Others point out that old forms list White Latino and Black Latino, respectfully, I think that comes from the Jim Crow days when some Latinos went to White schools and some went to Black schools based on how light or dark the Latino was and what the prevailing attitudes in the region were towards Latinos.

Whites are, by definition, people who consider themselves mostly descended from people who originally came from the general region of Europe. Black are people who consider themselves mostly descended from people who originally came from Africa - except that some people who consider themselves black do not, per say, have a majority of African in them, but are from the Black community, so it's right and proper for them to consider themselves Black if they wish. Asians, of course, have every reason to be ticked, as that category encompasses some wide-ranging, completely different folks, but it's the category folks from the USA lump them into. Go figure.

Latinos hail from somewhere in a new world country that was colonized by the Spanish, hence Latinos. (I always waver on that definition. . .Hispanic defines that better. Shouldn't Latino be enclusive of Brazil, as the Portuguese speak a Latin language? Would someone Brazillian help me out here?) That's no different from hailing from a country colonized by pale, pasty people who burst into flame when exposed to direct sunlight.

Also, if I were a conspiracy theorist, which I'm not, I might wonder if excluding Latinos from the census serves a two-fold purpose of attempting to wipe out the Aboriginal populations earlier by pretending they're dying off. Most Latinos I know have at least a drop or two of Indios in them, even my California Spanish friends with the geneaologies that date back to Spanish occupation usually have one branch or two that kind of trails off and hasn't been kept up.

Also, to the point of the conspiracy theory, even if your quantum is 100% American Indian, you can't claim it unless you're enrolled in a tribe. But for every other tick box on the list, you can claim whatever you'd like, whenever you'd like. So Lady Gaga can claim to be Pacific Islander and Black, and Seal can claim to be White and Asian and that is totally accepted. But someone Indian on the outs with their tribe just has to mark "other" and move on.

Which brings up the point that race is pretty arbitrary in the USA. A lot of people with a little Black in them don't claim it, and a lot of people with a little White in them don't claim it and no one makes a fuss. When someone does claim all of his or her ethnicities, they usually get slammed for it pretty hard, and then there's the fact of how innaccurate racial typing is in this country.

Anyway, off my soap box. I have to get ready for work.
 
Latinos are 'excluded from the census'. That selection merely isn't included in the 'race' question, since 'latino' isn't a race.

The census counts latinos through a completely separate question which has apparently been on the form since 1970. This count is very important. Per Census.gov:

Hispanic origin is used in numerous programs and is vital in making policy decisions. These data are needed to determine compliance with provisions of antidiscrimination in employment and minority recruitment legislation. Under the Voting Rights Act, data about Hispanic origin are essential to ensure enforcement of bilingual election rules. Hispanic origin classifi cations used by the Census Bureau and other federal agencies meet the requirements of standards issued by the Offi ce of Management and Budget in 1997 (Revisions to the Standards for the Classifi cation of Federal Data on Race and Ethnicity). These standards set forth guidance for statistical collection and reporting on race and ethnicity used by all federal agencies.
 
I think it's a purely political decision. If the census doesn't count Latinos, then no government sponsored, accurate count of Latinos exists. ...
I can only assume that you haven't actually looked at your census form yet. Question 8 specifically counts hispanics/latinos.
 
Actually hispanics may be of any race.


I may be wrong, but I always thought Hispanics were people of mixed Spanish, African-American (through slavery), and native tribes, like Puerto Ricans and Cuban. And I always thought of it as an ethnic group, not a race. They are of mixed race.

I have Spanish friends, ancestors from Spain, and they, because of their last name, are often considered Hispanic because of their last name, but they insist they're not Hispanic, they're Spanish Caucasians. I also have a Spanish last name due to my husband being Filipino, but he and my children aren't Hispanic ethnically or racially.
 







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