How Can Anyone be so Mean to Someone They Once Loved?

sounds like she wants to cut all ties with him. She may have asked him to stay away several times.

Sometimes you have to get nasty in order to get your point across.

It doesn't matter how old the girl is. Her mother asked him not to contact them so he should respect that.
Yup.

Also, it is pretty likely that there is more to the story than the OP is aware.
 
Why would the message neeed to be relayed through you? The ex should speak to your DS directly and vice versa. You shouldn't be involved at all.

Yup.

Also, it is pretty likely that there is more to the story than the OP is aware.

Yes, there seems to be part of this story that's missing. Perhaps, even from the OP.
 
I am betting there are/were more issues going on that you probably don't know about.

Exactly what I was thinking. When I was going through my divorce, the *last* person I shared details with was my mother. I told her what I wanted her to know in the way that painted a picture that would keep her from worrying *and asking more questions* that I didn't want to answer. Perhaps this is along the lines of that???
 
I am betting there are/were more issues going on that you probably don't know about. Your son could be trying to get info out of the step daugher for one. Do you still have a relationship with them?

There very well could be more going on than DH and I know about, I am definitly going to discuss this with DS the next time I see him. No, we do not still have a relationship with his ex-wife or her children.

sounds like she wants to cut all ties with him. She may have asked him to stay away several times.

Sometimes you have to get nasty in order to get your point across.

It doesn't matter how old the girl is. Her mother asked him not to contact them so he should respect that.

I agree, she may have asked him before not to text her daughter and I could understand her (the ex-wife) maybe trying to be a little more forceful in her request that he not contact her, but to drag us into it and be nasty on the phone is just uncalled for. She could have explained that she's asked him before, and would we please talk to him, etc. along those lines and be nice about it, but she wasn't.

The step-daughter didn't divorce her step-dad so he should be able to say happy birthday at least!

That's what I thought too, but apparantly not. :(

Why would the message neeed to be relayed through you? The ex should speak to your DS directly and vice versa. You shouldn't be involved at all.

That's what I don't understand, why the ex-wife felt the need to call us and try to drag us into it. I agree the ex-wife should speak directly to our DS and leave us out of it. Once I get our son's side of the story, I may block her number so she can't continue to call us. She called us once before, to have us relay a message to him about the divorce papers as she didn't have his phone number, but she has it now so there's no need to bother us their problems.

Yes, there seems to be part of this story that's missing. Perhaps, even from the OP.

To my knowledge *hand is on the Bible here* I have not left anything out. But, I have not talked to DS about any of this yet. When I do, there will probably be more to the story.
 

Here's my take on it based on what you posted. Your son doesn't seem to want to take the hint even when it is direct. You said he was practically living there but allegedly forced her to make a decision and she said it was over. Maybe she had been telling him that all along but he didn't want to hear it. Maybe she had told him numerous times before that she did not want any contact with him and he wouldn't stop the texting. Maybe she simply had enough and that was the last straw.
I am not saying that your son is some terrible man but maybe he just couldn't accept that it was over and she had enough.
 







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