Hopeful signs of a Renewed Disney/Pixar Relationship

[Duckfan-in-Chicago]

Incredibles benifited greatly from the success of Nemo and the Pixar name, similar to the way some less-then-the best Disney flicks benifited from LK and the brand name. But as we've all seen, that free pass will only last so long.

Recheck your FA numbers using Adjusted for Inflation. The first Pixar entry is #61.Shrek2 Spidy 1 & 2 both rank much higher. Wanna guess how many Dis flicks beat out Pixar ?

I'm not predicting Pixar will fail in the near future. I just don't think Incredibles was up to their standards and Cars didn't impress me in the least. Time will tell.

In the entire Disney 50 animated movie catalog 7 movies have made more (adjusted for inflation) than A Bug's Life, Pixar's lowest grossing film. And most of them have been rereleased numerous times in theaters. Why not compare Disney films released in same time frame that Pixar has been around-not 1 has. Even adjusting for inflation, all Pixar films are in the top 125 of all time. By no means does this make Pixar films better than the Disney classics. I'm just pointing out that so far, they haven't had a bomb. I am not knocking Disney. I don't think any studio can compare to Disney's golden age. Disney kinda came back on top after Little Mermaid, and had a great run, but now they seem lost again. Its not just about making money either, but coincidently B&TB, LK and Aladdin all made a lot of money for Disney, and are GREAT films. I would put them equal with Pixar's best.

As far as the Incredibles goes, all of my nieces and nephews loved it. It scored an 8.3/10 on IMDB based on almost 33,000 votes. You can personally not like a film, but that doesn't mean that everyone else feels it was their worst. I personally didn't think Monsters Inc. was that great. I don't think Pixar will always make hits, but right now they're doing better than Disney.

 

[YoHo]

For the love of all that's holy.

DISNEY IS IN THE BUSINESS OF MAKING MOVIES PEOPLE!!
whether distribting Pixar's or making their own, there is inherent risk in the proposition so, Yes, Disney does at some point have to bite the bullet and risk money, possibly DVD sales money on new movies. It's kinda what they do.

Second, Up until the 80's Disney films were released in theaters every 7 years. Those adjusted for inflation grosses are absolutly positivly meaningless and it was pointless to bring them up here. If you could find some initial run figures, I think you'd be shocked.

Third, Pixar doesn't have much of a formula beyond good stories and family entertainment. 2 things that have ALWAYS worked well for Disney. The Emperor's new Groove was a cute little movies, but it wasn't a great story. And it certainly wasn't Kingdom of the Sun. Incredibles, Toy Story, Finding Nemo. These have little to nothing in common besides being just well crafted movies.

When you make a well crafted movie with a good story, you tend to do well.

But by all means, lets just have Disney STOP making movies and stop entering partnerships. Afterall, it worked so well with them and Lord of the Rings. Seems like a great strategy, a movie company that doesn't make movies BRILLIANT!!!

 

[DancingBear]

Yoho and Crusader, united at last!!

One conflict in Pixar's position is they can't say "these are the reasons it is so important for you to continue your relationship with us" and then take away the value of all of those things. I see Disney continuing to have all of the rights it needs to merchandise characters and use them in the parks and such, but perhaps Pixar's royalty percentage on merchandising will increase, and Disney will start paying for use of the Pixar characters in the parks.

But if Disney does start paying for using Pixar characters, it becomes a disincentive to choose Pixar characters over Disney-created ones (if there ever are any more that matter), and so Pixar could lose an avenue of exposure which enhance the lifespan of their characters. The parks exposure is something truly valuable which Disney has to offer in this regard.

Based on the comments from the Sony studio chief about how uninteresting and frustrating it is to have the Lucas deal, I wonder if any similar deal is out there for Pixar to take.

 

[pkgman]

Based on the comments from the Sony studio chief about how uninteresting and frustrating it is to have the Lucas deal, I wonder if any similar deal is out there for Pixar to take.

Since Fox distributes for Lucas, I'm sure Sony's studio chief would be uninterested and frustrated by the Lucas deal.

 

[Lil_Tink]

Incredibles benifited greatly from the success of Nemo and the Pixar name, similar to the way some less-then-the best Disney flicks benifited from LK and the brand name. But as we've all seen, that free pass will only last so long.

Recheck your FA numbers using Adjusted for Inflation. The first Pixar entry is #61.Shrek2 Spidy 1 & 2 both rank much higher. Wanna guess how many Dis flicks beat out Pixar ?

I'm not predicting Pixar will fail in the near future. I just don't think Incredibles was up to their standards and Cars didn't impress me in the least. Time will tell.

Pixar has great ideas..But for how long. It kinda all has the same message.Stick together which is why my friends dont like It. .But i sure do

 

[DancingBear]

Since Fox distributes for Lucas, I'm sure Sony's studio chief would be uninterested and frustrated by the Lucas deal.

My error. I was talking about the comments on NPR by Bill Mechanic, the former head of Fox.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4655787

 

[dcentity2000]

Well, I for one think Disney's #1 goal should be to renew the relationship with Pixar, and was thrilled with the news when I heard they were meeting again.

Agreed.



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