We gave up on the values a few years ago. Too small, too crowded, too noisy, you name it. We have been staying at POR-FQ and LOVE IT! The extra $$ is well worth it. The resorts aren't as crowded, much quieter and people seem to be on better behavior all around. If there are cheer groups or sports teams, they all stay at the values and their behavior (kids and adults) leaves something to be desired (I won't say anything rude, but use your imagination) We recently bought DVC so we'll be living in the villas from now on, but we would definitely consider giving up our villa to stay at POR-FQ again.