Hollywood Studios Expansion

[patsal]

Love all of those ideas, but the sketches of some of those things predate the Muppets being added to the park....Seems more like an amalgamation of all the blue sky ideas that have been running rampent for years combined with the newer ones about "car's land" that should be dubbed Radiator Springs so it doesn't sound lame.

 

[tjkraz]

The genesis of the Internet rumor:

"A" posts a blue sky rumor--with a truth factor somewhere between 0-100--to an Internet forum. No names are mentioned and no sources attributed.

"B", "C", "D" and "E" paraphrase the same information to different forums without directly referencing "A"

"F" turns it all into a news story, claiming that "the Internet is abuzz with rumors..."

With all due respect to the site and author, this is the biggest collection of fanboy hokum I've read in a long time. For all of our sakes, I hope Disney Imagineering and parks' upper management isn't so bereft of ideas that they best they can do to DHS is clone Cars Land, Carthay Circle Theater and Red Car Trolley from DCA.

DHS' "Pizza Planet" may be the worst possible implementation of that restaurant concept but there is a tremendous level of name recognition from the 3 films. Does anyone really think Disney would change over that restaurant to feature a 30 year old Muppet character?? Where is the financial benefit in spending thousands to re-theme a restaurant from iconic film location from Pixar's signature film series to "that guy with the canon in Muppetvision????"

The Swedish Chef restaurant concept can be seen in a piece of concept art from the early '90s. The Muppets barely made enough money to warrant a film sequel, much less such an expansion in the parks. The Muppet Mobile Lab hasn't seen the light of day for years.

Carthay Circle Theater already exists in DHS...and the park doesn't need another signature restaurant (ahem, Brown Derby!)

Luigi's Tires will never be replicated. As good as Cars Land is, DCA is still having operational difficulties with that particular attraction.

A new street leading back to Sunset Blvd? Sure...why would Disney want its guests wasting time walking past all of those gift shops when a more direct route could be added?

Lights, Motors, Action may not have set the world on fire but it was a major capital investment and still draws good crowds. Can anyone think of a comparable attraction which Disney scuttled after just 7 years of operations?

Fact is Disney doesn't know what it wants to do with Hollywood Studios. They could have pulled the trigger on things like the Monster's Inc coaster more than 5 years ago!!! Kathy Mangum wasn't brought in to duplicate her past work--she was brought in to figure out what direction to go with this park. She isn't going to just start rubber-stamping ideas that have been floating around the ether for the last 3-4 years.

 

[PoohsFan1]

Love all of those ideas, but the sketches of some of those things predate the Muppets being added to the park....Seems more like an amalgamation of all the blue sky ideas that have been running rampent for years combined with the newer ones about "car's land" that should be dubbed Radiator Springs so it doesn't sound lame.

I thought this same thing when I read it too, especially the Muppets area. After I read the article and was telling my DH about it, he was the one that pointed that out. This is why, I think the article is cool in retrospect and would think that it would be neat to see some of these changes come to DHS, but I am certainly not going to hold my breath for it to happen, unless of course Disney puts out the official word.

 

[RooRach0906]

A suspended coaster is one where the seats are suspended from the track above and your llegs dangle from the seat. Like the seats on the Harry Potter coaster (the former Duelling Dragons) at Universal. Suspended coasters don't have to go upside down I guess, but all the ones I know of do.

Not all do your feet have to dangle there are suspensed coasters that have car "that look like buckets" and never go upside down. Big Bad Wolf at Busch Gardens Williamsburg was one of them until last year when they tore it down. RIP BBW

 

[Faldred]

The article presumes that because members of the Cars Land team are appearing at DHS, that the expansion (if any) will be porting Cars Land to DHS. I don't think that's necessarily a safe assumption -- they could just as easily be looking at a more inclusive "Pixar Place" bringing in some elements of Cars Land, the long-rumored Monsters, Inc. coaster, and hopefully a few additional surprises.

That said, little of what is being rumored is all that different from what I suggested a while back as a long-term evolution.

For Pixar Place, here's what I'd do, if I were in charge:

* Monster's Inc. coaster. 'Nuff said.
* Radiator Springs set, McQueen and Mater meet-and-greet (moved from Mama Melrose), maybe one CL attraction (flying tires makes the most sense as its effects are not duplicated by an existing WDW ride)
* Toy Story is already represented with TSM, relocate Pizza Planet to Pixar Place.
* Add TS restaurant for Ratatouille. Maybe use this location for a Pixar character meal? Have a nearby cart service location selling Skinner's version of Gaston's creations.
* Leave room for further expansion.

I had originally thought to relocate the Muppets to the other side of the park to make more room for Pixar and Star Wars, but leaving it there and taking over the Pizza Planet and Mama Melrose spaces works for me. More Muppets, please!

For Star Wars, just changing BLE to the Cantina and moving the Jedi Training into the mainly unused Sounds Dangerous space is underwhelming. They need to find a way to get another attraction, preferably an E-Ticket, in that area and themed to Star Wars.

 

[ASteelersMidget]

Not all do your feet have to dangle there are suspensed coasters that have car "that look like buckets" and never go upside down. Big Bad Wolf at Busch Gardens Williamsburg was one of them until last year when they tore it down. RIP BBW

Actually You have it all wrong

Suspended coasters are coasters where you are sit in a car and the car is suspended from the track and able to swing back and forth

Vortex at Canada's Wonderland is a good example.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cICqP9N1eHc

http://rcdb.com/g.htm?id=8

An inverted Coaster is where the track is above the trains and your feet hang.

A good example of this is the Dueling Dragon's (or whatever it's called now) at IOA


http://rcdb.com/g.htm?id=5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlGPcjif04Y

Alright. Any questions?

 

[Epcot Freak]

I cant see them changing rock-n-roll and tot! Tot just a few yrs ago they redid! And the hat i cant see them gettin ride of but everything else is fine with me!

 

[RooRach0906]

Actually You have it all wrong

Suspended coasters are coasters where you are sit in a car and the car is suspended from the track and able to swing back and forth

Vortex at Canada's Wonderland is a good example.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cICqP9N1eHc

http://rcdb.com/g.htm?id=8

An inverted Coaster is where the track is above the trains and your feet hang.

A good example of this is the Dueling Dragon's (or whatever it's called now) at IOA


http://rcdb.com/g.htm?id=5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlGPcjif04Y

Alright. Any questions?

Then I had it right google Big Bad Wolf and see the pictures that come up and how they are the same as the ones you just posted (For the suspensed coaster). In fact you first link in the comments is being compared to Big Bad Wolf. The previous person before me said your feet have to dangle I said they did not.

Its my own fault tho for posting from my phone so not wanting to type out a whole big long paragraph.

 

[ASteelersMidget]

Then I had it right google Big Bad Wolf and see the pictures that come up and how they are the same as the ones you just posted (For the suspensed coaster). In fact you first link in the comments is being compared to Big Bad Wolf. The previous person before me said your feet have to dangle I said they did not.

Its my own fault tho for posting from my phone so not wanting to type out a whole big long paragraph.

Not how it looked off to the rest of the interwebs but yes BBW was suspended. It was also an amazing ride but that is now neither here nor there.

Anyways If the MI door coaster materializes it better not be a Vekoma SLC. They are known for being the most painful coasters to ride.

Also To semi-quote extreme makeover home edition

"MOVE! THAT! HAT!!!!!!!!"

 

[101disneyfan]

When I started reading through the article I just couldn't help but think with every new paragraph that they are just putting together every rumor that has been said on boards much like this one over the past number of years all into one article.

There just seems to be wayyy to much work going on here for one park, especially since Avatar is the next project in line and won't be done until 2016. Also I'm sure cars land would be cool, but the main attraction in that land is basically already at Epcot in Test Track. No reason to have the same type of ride in two different parks with a different theme. Just doesn't make sense to me.

What about Dumbo vs the Flying Carpet?
Don't get me wrong, I love Test Track, but it would be better for the crowds in my opinion...

 

[jamarmiller]

Pretty interesting article here:

http://wdwnewstoday.com/archives/9719


Consider the rumor mill open for business!

God i hope this is true, this is the one park I only go to, once every 5 years as I am so disappointed with it each time I go. I really want to love this park but it really needs this badly

 

[MattM]

Re: Iger mentioning that major capital spending projects were concluding, you have to put the word "major" in perspective. A major revamp of a current park adding a whole new land, building the second of two massive new cruise ships, the beginning phases of a whole new Disneyland in another country, plus the largest expansion in Magic Kingdom history in the Fantasyland expansion.

It makes Avatarland and a possible Hollywood Studios update seem like not so big a deal.

For what it's worth.

 

[101disneyfan]

Idea for Layout of Park. Now, DHS is a timeline of the Walt Disney Studio in Hollywood.

The front entrance leads to Hollywood Blvd, and eventually to Crossroads of the World, which sevres as the new icon.

The Backlot Tour is revamped to now be themed, The Making of DHS theme park and a History of the Walt Disney Studio.

The front of the park will be the 1920s and 30s featuring Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck, Goofy, Pluto, Minnie Mouse, Daisy, Chip, Dale, and others.
Attractions will include:
Mickey's Country House
Minnie's Country House
The Magic of Disney Animation
The Entrance to the Backlot Tour
Disney Mania Show (from Magic Kingdom, circa 1990s)
Mickey Mouse rollercoaster
Chef Mickeys (imported from the Contemporary)
Meets and Greets with Classic Characters.

This section will also include Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs characters, with the WDW return of "Snow White's Scary Adventures," along with a 25 minute version approx. of the Disneyland Snow White Show.
Meet and Greets will be held outside the theatre with Snow White, the Prince, The Queen, Dopey, Doc, and the others.

As we approach the second section of the park, we run into the 1940s at the Walt Disney Studios.

Attractions and character dining will be based on the following.
-Pinnochio
-Fantasia
-Bambi

We now approach the 1950s with Peter Pan, Alice in Wonderland, Cinderella, amongst several others. Each decade will be featured along the format of "the 1940s".

The 1960s and 1970s will be grouped together. This is the final "land" as we are now approaching the park's new icon, Crossroads of the World, where you can find rare character appearances. Directly behind Crossroads of the World will be a two story building with three floors. Floor 1 will be an updated version of the Great Movie Ride, now titled, The Wonderful World of Disney and will feature Walt Disney through various times in his career (Beginning of the studio, Release of Snow White, Meetings with Mary Poppins creator PL Travers... etc, the opening day of Disney Land...) The second floor, will be a character dining experience with the Disney Villains along the lines of the dinner formerly presented at 1900 Park Fare. The top floor will be Walt Disney One Man's Dream.

To the left of the decades will be the 1980s and 1990s and the Disney Renaissance- themed restaurants, attractions, shows, and meet and greets.

To the right of the decades will be Walt Disney Pictures in the New Millenium with Disney Channel themed attractions, as well as The Emperor's New Groove, Chicken Little, Enchanted, Tangled and others....

Behind the Disney 2000s section will be Star Wars and Indiana Jones.
Behind the Disney Renaissance section will be Jim Henson characters, rides and attractions.
Behind Crossroads of the World, between The Muppets and Indiana Jones will be the PIXAR place, including Toy Story Mania and others.

Tower of Terror and Rock n Roller will be featured on opposite sites of the park to influence the crowds and not send them all running down one road at once.

Several of the character meets will include FASTPASS as Mickey Mouse in Town Square on Main Street USA currently does.

Here is a diagram (made on Paint, so sorry if it looks basic) to provide a visual aid.

 

[jmm476]

Idea for Layout of Park. Now, DHS is a timeline of the Walt Disney Studio in Hollywood.

The front entrance leads to Hollywood Blvd, and eventually to Crossroads of the World, which sevres as the new icon.

The Backlot Tour is revamped to now be themed, The Making of DHS theme park and a History of the Walt Disney Studio.

The front of the park will be the 1920s and 30s featuring Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck, Goofy, Pluto, Minnie Mouse, Daisy, Chip, Dale, and others.
Attractions will include:
Mickey's Country House
Minnie's Country House
The Magic of Disney Animation
The Entrance to the Backlot Tour
Disney Mania Show (from Magic Kingdom, circa 1990s)
Mickey Mouse rollercoaster
Chef Mickeys (imported from the Contemporary)
Meets and Greets with Classic Characters.

This section will also include Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs characters, with the WDW return of "Snow White's Scary Adventures," along with a 25 minute version approx. of the Disneyland Snow White Show.
Meet and Greets will be held outside the theatre with Snow White, the Prince, The Queen, Dopey, Doc, and the others.

As we approach the second section of the park, we run into the 1940s at the Walt Disney Studios.

Attractions and character dining will be based on the following.
-Pinnochio
-Fantasia
-Bambi

We now approach the 1950s with Peter Pan, Alice in Wonderland, Cinderella, amongst several others. Each decade will be featured along the format of "the 1940s".

The 1960s and 1970s will be grouped together. This is the final "land" as we are now approaching the park's new icon, Crossroads of the World, where you can find rare character appearances. Directly behind Crossroads of the World will be a two story building with three floors. Floor 1 will be an updated version of the Great Movie Ride, now titled, The Wonderful World of Disney and will feature Walt Disney through various times in his career (Beginning of the studio, Release of Snow White, Meetings with Mary Poppins creator PL Travers... etc, the opening day of Disney Land...) The second floor, will be a character dining experience with the Disney Villains along the lines of the dinner formerly presented at 1900 Park Fare. The top floor will be Walt Disney One Man's Dream.

To the left of the decades will be the 1980s and 1990s and the Disney Renaissance- themed restaurants, attractions, shows, and meet and greets.

To the right of the decades will be Walt Disney Pictures in the New Millenium with Disney Channel themed attractions, as well as The Emperor's New Groove, Chicken Little, Enchanted, Tangled and others....

Behind the Disney 2000s section will be Star Wars and Indiana Jones.
Behind the Disney Renaissance section will be Jim Henson characters, rides and attractions.
Behind Crossroads of the World, between The Muppets and Indiana Jones will be the PIXAR place, including Toy Story Mania and others.

Tower of Terror and Rock n Roller will be featured on opposite sites of the park to influence the crowds and not send them all running down one road at once.

Several of the character meets will include FASTPASS as Mickey Mouse in Town Square on Main Street USA currently does.

Here is a diagram (made on Paint, so sorry if it looks basic) to provide a visual aid.

Wow, you've certainly put a lot of time into this plan. Sounds like a well-thought out plan, but I'm sure things like rnrc and tot would never be moved. And what would you do for any new films that were released? I think DHS has limited space for expansion, it seems like the smallest of all the parks by quite a bit, so maybe the acreage just isn't there?

 

[Disneyfreak44]

Idea for Layout of Park. Now, DHS is a timeline of the Walt Disney Studio in Hollywood.

The front entrance leads to Hollywood Blvd, and eventually to Crossroads of the World, which sevres as the new icon.

The Backlot Tour is revamped to now be themed, The Making of DHS theme park and a History of the Walt Disney Studio.

The front of the park will be the 1920s and 30s featuring Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck, Goofy, Pluto, Minnie Mouse, Daisy, Chip, Dale, and others.
Attractions will include:
Mickey's Country House
Minnie's Country House
The Magic of Disney Animation
The Entrance to the Backlot Tour
Disney Mania Show (from Magic Kingdom, circa 1990s)
Mickey Mouse rollercoaster
Chef Mickeys (imported from the Contemporary)
Meets and Greets with Classic Characters.

This section will also include Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs characters, with the WDW return of "Snow White's Scary Adventures," along with a 25 minute version approx. of the Disneyland Snow White Show.
Meet and Greets will be held outside the theatre with Snow White, the Prince, The Queen, Dopey, Doc, and the others.

As we approach the second section of the park, we run into the 1940s at the Walt Disney Studios.

Attractions and character dining will be based on the following.
-Pinnochio
-Fantasia
-Bambi

We now approach the 1950s with Peter Pan, Alice in Wonderland, Cinderella, amongst several others. Each decade will be featured along the format of "the 1940s".

The 1960s and 1970s will be grouped together. This is the final "land" as we are now approaching the park's new icon, Crossroads of the World, where you can find rare character appearances. Directly behind Crossroads of the World will be a two story building with three floors. Floor 1 will be an updated version of the Great Movie Ride, now titled, The Wonderful World of Disney and will feature Walt Disney through various times in his career (Beginning of the studio, Release of Snow White, Meetings with Mary Poppins creator PL Travers... etc, the opening day of Disney Land...) The second floor, will be a character dining experience with the Disney Villains along the lines of the dinner formerly presented at 1900 Park Fare. The top floor will be Walt Disney One Man's Dream.

To the left of the decades will be the 1980s and 1990s and the Disney Renaissance- themed restaurants, attractions, shows, and meet and greets.

To the right of the decades will be Walt Disney Pictures in the New Millenium with Disney Channel themed attractions, as well as The Emperor's New Groove, Chicken Little, Enchanted, Tangled and others....

Behind the Disney 2000s section will be Star Wars and Indiana Jones.
Behind the Disney Renaissance section will be Jim Henson characters, rides and attractions.
Behind Crossroads of the World, between The Muppets and Indiana Jones will be the PIXAR place, including Toy Story Mania and others.

Tower of Terror and Rock n Roller will be featured on opposite sites of the park to influence the crowds and not send them all running down one road at once.

Several of the character meets will include FASTPASS as Mickey Mouse in Town Square on Main Street USA currently does.

Here is a diagram (made on Paint, so sorry if it looks basic) to provide a visual aid.

That was impressive but it would take so long to move either rnrc or tot that it may be even worse for crowd control but i'm not saying your plan is a bad one

 

[rileyspaw]

Need to make it happen. Most of the scenes on the GREAT MOVIE RIDE aren't familiar to anyone under 30!!

 

[ASteelersMidget]

Need to make it happen. Most of the scenes on the GREAT MOVIE RIDE aren't familiar to anyone under 30!!

That's really not that true. I went with my High school during my junior year and everyone could name the movie all of the scenes were from. Sure the montage at the end is hit and miss but it is the ride that is an homage to what the park is supposed to be. You really can't get rid of it.

 

[Peace Mickey Lovers]

I hope at least some of this comes true. this is only a 1/2 day park for us now. And the one we choose to miss if we take a short trip.

 

[Bree89]

It's a shame that they can't come up with something original.

I'd be much more interested in an entire Pixar land than a clone of Cars land. Was hoping for something different. If they are going to retheme the current Pizza Planet, they could put in a new restaurant or two based on the Pixar movies and include a Pixar Character meal, put in the Monster's Inc coaster, move the laugh floor over to DHS, put in an UP or Incredibles motion ride, retheme the HISTK play area to Bug's Life, and still add the racers or something from Carsland, without the whole land.

Oh well, I guess they know what they are doing. I'm sure people will like ANYTHING new at DHS.

I agree with the idea of a pixar land! That would be really sweet, especially the Monster's Inc. rollercoaster and the Pixar character meals. I think that's better than having a whole part of the park dedicated to just Cars. Maybe a Cars Go Kart Ride could appear in the Pixar land.

On another note, I'm sad about the Beauty and the Beast Show being cancelled I wish they could just move it to MK instead of completely scrapping it...

 

[smidgy]

I'm on for everything EXCEPT Tangled The Musical. The songs weren't memorable and I don't think it deserves a show, especially replacing a classic movie like Beauty and the Beast.

please don't take away beauty and the beast!! hubby and I love it!