Hiring mangers..question for you

[onecoolmama]

My DH had an interveiw in Ga. It was a 10 hour drive and he said the interveiw went ok. Anyway, the guy took DH all over introduced him to everyone and showed him the equipment he would be working with, where his station would be, and had another person that Dh would be working with sit in on the interveiw.

When they were leaving, DH said "So what is the next step?" The guy said he had a couple of other interveiws, but he would make a decision early next week. DH said, "Well, is it ok if I call you wendsday if I have not heard from you?" ."sure..no problem." The guy never called back. Dh has left two messages and now..we are assuming he didnt get the job.

Is this considered rude to the rest of you? I just think you interveiw someone on the phone..know how far they are ask them to come and meet you and dont have the decency to tell the person they didnt get the job. Not to mention that they asked if he was married which is a HUGE no no with the EEO!

Would you call back..and how long would it take you? Are we being irrational now that it is the end of the week and no phine call?

 

[Keggy]

I am not a hiring manager, but I am a recruiter.
If the interviewer told him a date - he should contact him. I tell my candidates when they will hear from my by, ask them how they would rather be contacted, and I let them know if we have chosen someone else. I just try to put myself in the candidate's shoes. I wouldn't want to be left hanging.

If you have called twice. I would leave it alone. You are right to assume they probably didn't go with him. While, it is poor business practice to not return a phone call. It unfortunately happens. And it they asked him if he was married - it shows they probably don't know what they a e doing. Did they ask his age as well?

Good Luck to your husband with his job search!

Kelly

 

[Kimberle]

Every company has their own policy.

When I hire. I send out letters to the other candidated after the person I've hired starts. Why? Because sometimes your first choice does not accept or accepts then cancels at the last minute.

A couple of things could have happened. Maybe the boss is on vacation or out sick and hasn't received the messages. Maybe he's extended an offer to another and is waiting for an answer. Maybe something came up and they've had to put off making a decision for a short time.

When I start interviewing, I always tell people it'll probably be a week or two. But in all honestly, I really don't know. You want to hire quickly, but sometimes it takes a long time to find the right person to hire.

He could have really liked your dh, but wants other applicants to compare him to.

At this stage, there is really nothing for your dh to do but wait. A follow up phone call is OK, but more would be "pesty" to me. Any number of reasons could be happening..

Good luck to your dh!

 

[RUDisney]

I wouldn't rule your DH out, yet. When I interview someone who is definitely out of the running, I tell HR immediately to send a rejection letter. Now, the good candidates... sometimes it takes longer than originally intended to meet with everyone, or to make a final decision. I'd think it was a good sign for your DH to have been shown around and introduced to others. I don't bother to do that with anyone who isn't a viable candidate. The only time I've done that is when I'm interviewing someone for our Computer Operations department. The environment isn't the most desirable for some people. It's a colder room and some entry-level employees are not cut out for that environment. I take them in and if I haven't scared them off, then they are still in the running.

As for the manager being rude. Maybe, perhaps... but s/he is holding the hand of cards, so you can certainly complain to each other and some of your family and friends, but don't complain to the manager. At this point, if your DH hasn't done so already, I'd send a hand-written note to the manager, saying that you wanted to thank him/her for the interview again, and to let him/her know that he's still interested in the position and looks forward to speaking again soon.

This way, he's not being a pain in the patoot to the manager, but still shows a real interest in the position.

BTW, thank you notes are often what teeters one candidate over another for me. If two candidates are equal, the thank you note will show good followup and consideration. It makes one candidate more memorable than the other.

 

[wuv tigger]

If someone makes the effort to followup with a thank you note and an email or phone call then I will definitely get back to them. Sometimes it is delayed because there is nothing to get back about due to approval processes, waiting to see if the first person offered the job takes it, etc.

At this time of the year with snowstorms, flu, etc. I would not be too upset right now. Most hiring managers have a full time job and it is a pain in the a** to find a new employee.

I think that it would be appropriate to continue to pursue an answer in a polite way until you get an answer. I am more interested in people who are interested in the job, but not everyone is like that. Maybe they have an admin. that you could get some information from.

Best wishes

David

 

[onecoolmama]

Thanks for the support and the quick reponses!

Yes, DH has sent thank you notes to everyone he interveiwed with..mailed them the day after the interveiw.

RUDisney - the fact that he introduced him to EVERYONE and showed him all the equipment was why we thought he had it too. However, Dh said the interveiw was cunducted in the the managers office and he was constantly on his computer and not taking notes...and not paying attention. So who knows. He interveiwed with another person there as well. DH decided that Wednsday or Thursday he would call the other manager and just "close things out."

Kelly - LOL! no they didnt ask DH his age but a few people asked him if he was married. He also said everyone he met and saw was african american or white. DH is asian, but looks hispanic..and he didnt see anyone from either decent. Not that it bothered him at all, but it was quite noticable.

Kimberle - I never thought of looking in the mail for a letter. DH never filled out an application..he completely bipassed HR (on purpose) and called the hiring manager directly for the first contact..but I guess they have our address on his resume.

Wuv Tigger - the sick thing came up in my head too. Or maybe he was just extremely busy. I guess we'll wait and see.

I think at this point we are going to start contacting other hiring managers and go from there. There is another job DH is very interested in that he is going to start persuing. Thanks for the encouragement and again the quick reponses!

 

[RUDisney]

Originally posted by onecoolmama
Dh said the interveiw was cunducted in the the managers office and he was constantly on his computer and not taking notes...and not paying attention. So who knows. He interveiwed with another person there as well.

I can forgive a manager for not taking an applicants call before making up his mind about which applicant to hire because things come up and time flies. BUT!!! To have someone come 10 hours by car and not give that person your full attention is attrocious! Your DH should think long and hard about whether he wants to work for a person who doesn't even extend him the courtesy of a real interview. Will this person share with DH when he's working on projects with this manager?

 

[onecoolmama]

RUDisney - You are really helping me feel better that DH didnt get the job.

The third person in the interveiw was an engineer. Dh was just telling me that often in a Technical Interview the manager will have an engineer in the room to ask more of the technical questions.

But, when you mentioned that was rude I remember what my DH said to me when he first came in after the interview. He said the interveiw was at 10am. Dh was right on time (actually, he was 10 minutes early, but he waited in his car for 5 minutes and then went in.) The manager didnt come for him until 10:45. That is ok, like we have said..people can get really busy. However, there was no apology offered to DH. In fact, he came to the first landing of the stairs, called out to DH and told him to come over and meet him there. If you can picture it, my DH couldn't see him until he got to the first step.

I dunno, but I have always had someone say hello, shake my hand, and most of all, come to me. Not call me from the landing and then not apologize for being 45 minutes late.

You have made me feel a lot better..thanks!

 

[mcnuss]

That is ok, like we have said..people can get really busy. However, there was no apology offered to DH. In fact, he came to the first landing of the stairs, called out to DH and told him to come over and meet him there. If you can picture it, my DH couldn't see him until he got to the first step.

This was the last straw, I had to post. This guy's a Loser with a capital LLLLL and your DH would be fortunate never to work for him. He clearly has no social skills whatsoever. Unless your DH is totally desperate for work, even if Mr. Loser calls him back, he should run, not walk, to the nearest exit!

I had a similar experience once with someone who was just plain odd and was offered the job. I would not take it, though, until I was able to talk to other of the supervisor's direct reports. The guy was balky about it, and I walked. I figured that he was balking bc he was unsure of what his people would say about him, and that was enough of a red flag for me.

 

[RUDisney]

Originally posted by mcnuss
This guy's a Loser with a capital LLLLL and your DH would be fortunate never to work for him. He clearly has no social skills whatsoever. Unless your DH is totally desperate for work, even if Mr. Loser calls him back, he should run, not walk, to the nearest exit!

Absolutely!

I'm glad to help you feel better. No one likes interviews. It is a pain to have to find someone for a position and it is more of a pain to have to go to BE interviewed.

Just think about it this way... if the job is 10 hours away from your home and it is not a telecommuting position, which it sounds like it isn't since he was shown around, etc., you'd have to pull up your roots to work for this loser.

If your DH is finally offered the position, I hope it is for gobs of money before he considers taking it. He CAN at least use this for practice in negotiating before he turns them down.

 

[my3kids]

Things often take longer than expected, and if candidates were travelling long distances to the interview, the weather on the East Coast this week has not been very travel friendly. Interviews may have had to be rescheduled. It could be that the interviewer had to leave town late this week and the rest of the interviews won't take place until next week, or later. I'd not rule anything out yet.

 

[onecoolmama]

Mcnuss- LOL! You are right..this guy might not be the best person to work for!

RUDisney - Yes this is not a telecommuting job. The thing is where we live now (DC) we can't afford a house in DC. In fact, we cant even afford a townhouse here! DH loves his job and it is very unfortunate our predicament..but that is why I think we are soo anxious. A job in Atalnta or Raleigh would mean a house for us! The last puzzle peice of the "American Dream." So uprooting is actually a good thing for us!

I doubt the postion will be for "Gobs of money" LOL! Dh works for a huge non priofit comapny in DC and the one in Atlanta was another large non-profit..so not much money there. But he likes the non profits..although not glued to them if another good oppertunity comes along.

Thanks for all the advice and listening! You all made me feel much better and ave me a new spirit to keep going!

 

[suzannen]

I agree with other posters, Onecoolmama, that this company might not be the best place for your DH to work.

I don't hire that many people for my firm, but if there is ever a delay in the final decision, I will personally call the applicant(s) and let them know that. I also call those that do not get the job or their "head hunter" as soon as possible so that they can move on more seriously to their next interviews. To keep someone hanging, particularly when they know they are married (another reason that red flags should go up) and not return phone calls is extremely unprofessional in my book. And, don't even get me started on someone not apologizing for being late.

You and DH need to hang in there. This is such a tough position. I went through it with my DH several years ago when his firm suddenly closed down. Just keep hugging each other and remember with all of those interviews, it only takes 1 job offer to make the difference. Best of luck to you both.