Hillary Supporters unite part 2; no bashing please

[deelam]

How many Hillary supporters will be mad if she doesn't get offered the VP job?

I just want to add, that I would not vote for Obama if he didn't chosse Hillary.

 

[jacksonsmom]

Obamatopia




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIRaFfMGNSc

Now that is SOOOOOOOO funny!

The part is I can easily see some of his supporters believing he can actually do that stuff!!!

 

[jacksonsmom]

How many Hillary supporters will be mad if she doesn't get offered the VP job?

I just want to add, that I would not vote for Obama if he didn't chosse Hillary.

I think she should be offered because she has shown herself to be a strong candidate and IMO she has truly earned the right to at least be offered the VP. I feel personally if Obama does not offer it to her he is stabbing her in the back.

Now, as my personally opinion and not whether Hillary should be offered I kind of hope she doesn't take it (if she is offered) because she can do so much better then a VP AND I don't want her crashing when Obama comes crashing down in the general.

 

[moon]

One great thing about the HRC candidacy, We all made made some great new Dis Friends!!!!!
Its been a blast getting to know you all these past few months!

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I feel the same way. I'm very happy and proud to be part of this thread with all of you

Been great getting to know you also and hope that you stay and dont go away from this thread...many if not most of us at this point still feel like we have no candidate either will be interesting to see what the debates bring us

Thank for starting this thread. I've loved gettong to know all of you. I think it's should stay up for a long time. Hillary is far from Done!

Obama/Richardson 08

Wow, that ticket is a sure loser! Richardson can't even attract flies to him

 

[jacksonsmom]

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Wow, that ticket is a sure loser! Richardson can't even attract flies to him

I agree. I would laugh if Obama picks Richardson.
That is a 100% loser ticket!

 

[DISUNC]

Clinton held her nose & did her job

Echoing another dramatic moment, Hillary Clinton came not to praise Barack Obama, only to support him.

Or maybe she was channeling consigliere Tom Hagen, who in "The Godfather" famously said of a Mafia family feud: "This is business, not personal."

Whatever her muse, Clinton Saturday gave one of the most honest speeches she has ever given and perhaps the most honest we have heard in this political marathon.

She didn't pretend to like or admire Obama. She didn't pretend she believes he would be a great President. She didn't say he was right on the issues. She never said he'd be a good commander in chief or would keep America safe.

She made it clear she still reserves those views for herself. And that she'll be baaaacccck.

But she had a job to do yesterday and she did it. Her task was to acknowledge Obama as the party nominee, say repeatedly she was supporting him and would do everything she could to help him win.

She did all that with more sincerity than a coerced prisoner of war would have mustered, but with far less passion and rhetorical gusto than a true believer would have brought to the occasion.

She made it clear, sometimes painfully so, that she was endorsing Obama only because he's a Democrat. It's business.

Beyond that, she wasn't going there. There was no warm and fuzzy Hallmark moment, no reason to get misty-eyed, at least over him.

This was a concession, not a surrender. She was accepting defeat, but defiantly refusing to be labeled a loser. Surrender is for wimps.

Like a battle-hardened general leading an army, she said her supporters must "join forces" with Obama's, making it seem more a merger than a conquest. But there was also a not-so-veiled complaint about prejudice toward her, saying, "We weren't able to shatter that highest, hardest glass ceiling this time."

That sounded peevish, and wrong. She is truly a historic trailblazer, but she didn't lose because she's a woman. She lost because Obama got more delegates under rules she understood and approved.

Her complaint also has a whiff of hypocrisy, given that she played the race card against Obama, touting her appeal last month to "white Americans." She also didn't acknowledge her own mistakes and gaffes.

Yet the speech was bold considering how miserably she failed last Tuesday when she made noises about fighting on. She congratulated Obama then, but never said for what. The campaign, in her mind, was not over.

It was a disaster, as was her pushy attempt to force her way onto his ticket. The plan backfired, so she was forced to try again to find the right words and tone.

Most notable was her game attempt to echo the "yes, we can" mantra of the Obama-bots. And she tried, even though she didn't have much success, to rally her audience into chorus-like repetitions of why they had to help Obama win.

But she saved her genuine smiles and bravado for the long ode to her own efforts. By my rough count, more than two-thirds of the 30-minute speech was about herself and her achievements. "Me" and "I" and "we" were dearest to her heart.

No surprise there, but at least she didn't pretend otherwise.

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2008/06/08/2008-06-08_clinton_held_her_nose__did_her_job-1.html

 

[Planogirl]

I believe that Hillary certainly believes that she is the most qualified. What politician doesn't? But I also believes that she is quite sincere about helping Obama get elected. The Democratic Party is important to her and electing a Democrat is also very important.

That article is way too negative IMO.

 

["Got Disney"]

Obamatopia




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIRaFfMGNSc

that was funny...I love stuff like that on the candidates....

Now that is SOOOOOOOO funny!

The part is I can easily see some of his supporters believing he can actually do that stuff!!!

than for those OS ...thats there problem for not understanding the term...POLITICIAN......... but if it makes there day a happy one than they can have at it

 

["Got Disney"]

I agree. I would laugh if Obama picks Richardson.
That is a 100% loser ticket!

Can we say...poor judgement if he does

 

[robinb]

I do believe that Hillary has already knocked down a lot of barriers as far as women go. She didn't go the distance but she did a heck of a job in spite of so much being stacked against her. People even now blame her for Bill's affairs for example and she was a victim! And much of that comes from other women!

I admire her more than I can say for her strength and continued good spirits. I hope that more women rise in her footsteps after seeing what can be done.

ITA. I loved her comment about there being 17-million cracks in the glass ceiling!

With that, I'll be unsubscribing to this thread. It's time to me to unite with other Democrats behind Obama. I hope to see as many of you as possible over on the Liberal and/or Obama thread.

 

["Got Disney"]

I believe that Hillary certainly believes that she is the most qualified. What politician doesn't? But I also believes that she is quite sincere about helping Obama get elected. The Democratic Party is important to her and electing a Democrat is also very important.

That article is way too negative IMO.

I agree.

 

[Planogirl]

ITA. I loved her comment about there being 17-million cracks in the glass ceiling!

With that, I'll be unsubscribing to this thread. It's time to me to unite with other Democrats behind Obama. I hope to see as many of you as possible over on the Liberal and/or Obama thread.

I'll be on the Liberal thread if it reappears. I think I'll hang out here for just a bit longer too.

 

[JARNJ3]

I found this online and thought (most) of you on this thread would appreciate it.

It's a great POV about the Clintons

I very much enjoyed this. Thanks.

 

[JARNJ3]

I think she should be offered because she has shown herself to be a strong candidate and IMO she has truly earned the right to at least be offered the VP. I feel personally if Obama does not offer it to her he is stabbing her in the back.

I agree - except with the part about the back stabbing.

I've said my times - (tell me when I start to become annoying, lol) that if Hillary were John - there'd be no question about it - it would be 1-2 knockout ticket. And "John" would be on it. They'd do male bonding things - go on a bus trip - etc........

I think most of Hillary's supporters would jump on the Obama bandwagon, both in spirit and monetarily, if she were to be asked to join the ticket.

The party was split in two - hello? Want it easily put back together? Add her to the ticket.

But - it seems like the Obama supporters (universally - not just our group of them) think he can do this without her. They took every thing she said during the campaign as personal - and not as political.

So - to keep his own supporters happy - I don't think he'll offer her the slot.

Disclaimer - this is my own personal, gut feeling. I have nothing to back it up with!

 

[JARNJ3]

PS - if this thread morphs into something else - can someone let me know into what?

I have enjoyed getting to know you in my short tenure here - and would like to keep in touch!!

 

[deelam]

I had a full dose of women's lib today. First watching reruns of Hillary's speech and then watching an HBO movie about how woman fought to get the right to vote. I'm ready to get on my Hillary T-shirt and sing we will overcome.

I must say, Hillary has been ridiculed for her every move, while Obama's moves were called historical. I find it shameful.

 

[Planogirl]

I personally think that people need to quit slamming Hillary, that is if they truly want party unity. All of the fussing about what she said or supposedly did or what Bill said or did or whatever isn't accomplishing much if anything. I think that I see most of it coming from people who don't really support the Democratic Party though.

Of course, you could say that the same applies to Obama. I guess that it depends on your perspective in a way.

 

[jacksonsmom]

I've said my times - (tell me when I start to become annoying, lol) that if Hillary were John - there'd be no question about it - it would be 1-2 knockout ticket. And "John" would be on it. They'd do male bonding things - go on a bus trip - etc........

No, you are not annoying, I truly believe you are "right on" with that statement

 

[jacksonsmom]

Can I vent?

I am really starting to wonder what the heck the Dem party is thinking
I am ticked off with all the crap treatment Hillary got and how the DNC pushed Obama on the public.

Now, in our local state election. They announced Al Franken as the Democratic nominee for Senator! AL FRANKEN?!?!? He has so much baggage and issues, why in the world would anyone want Al Franken to go up against Norm Coleman? Norm Coleman has a pretty strong base here in MN, it will take a strong Dem to knock him out of his seat, but Al Franken is NOT that guy, IMO

Al Franken has put his foot in his mouth SO many times, I can just see Norm Coleman's ad come Sept/Oct

Man, first I don't know who I am going to support as President (McCain/Independent candidate) and now I have to decided who the heck to vote for my Senator, I will not vote for Norm Coleman though. I do not like the guy at all. Maybe I will write Mickey Mouse for that one!

AL FRANKEN?!?! What the heck was the MN DFL thinking?!?!?!

 

[sotoalf]

I suspect that the ever-crafty Obama has refused to accept HRC's VP bid because, among other reasons, it would mean exposing Bill Clinton's shall we say questionable financial records for scrutiny. Neither Hillary nor Obama need the bad headlines now.