Well, we went out today with an open mind. It wasn't soooo bad. Went to the Jeep dealer and felt like the sales person had better things to do, so we left without even a test drive. Went to Saturn. Liked the sales guy and test drove the VUE. I loved the car, but DH is leaning toward the Jeep Compass. I figured once I test drive the Jeep we can do the numbering game. Should I hold out after the sales person gives me his "best" deal to tell him we get a supplier discount? Or tell them from the start? I usually have my dad go with us, but he has retired in the sunshine state. So, I am relying on you guys for some advice and the internet too. I can't find anything specific about the discount on the internet. Any ideas of how much it is? Guess I could call a dealer tomorrow and just ask over the phone? I wonder if they would tell me.