Help picking Mini DV Camcorder

momsgonwild

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I currently own a JVC VHS-C Camcorder which is approx 10 yrs old. Knowing that I probably won't have much longer with this camcorder, I purchased a JVC Mini DV Camcorder Saturday. After playing with it I took it back today. Outdoor pictures were great, but inside they were horrible. There was definite color and image distortion. I tried going into manual mode and changing ISO settings, changing white balances, and shot in night mode with no change to picture quality. I also used the light that comes on the camcorder. I thought maybe it had something to do with my TV, so I played with the ratios 16/9 and 4/3. Still no change. I called JVC support, and was floored to be told that Mini DV cameras were not made to use indoors, but for outside. The smaller the camera the worse picture you would have indoors. My old VHS-C has much better picture quality. What do I buy? I know sooner or later I am going to have to buy something. I need a camcorder that I can use for sports, parties, parks, indoors, etc. Anyone have suggestions? I really would appreciate the help. Thanks!
 
I have a Sony DCR-PC-120 BT It's a great cam and does really well indoors It even has a night-vision that I use on the rides with the LDC closed (don't want to bother others on ride.)
I'm not sure if it's avail.anymore I've had it for a while .MTV uses it on all of it's realitiy shows .
Good luck it's so hard to find the equipment for each persons needs .
 
I think, right now Sonys are the best camcorders available. That may be skewed by the fact that I own one.
 
Thanks for the info. I found a Sony DCR-HC36 at Circuit City. Does this look like a good camcorder for indoor/outdoor use? Any opinions would be greatly appreciated.
 

momsgonwild said:
Thanks for the info. I found a Sony DCR-HC36 at Circuit City. Does this look like a good camcorder for indoor/outdoor use? Any opinions would be greatly appreciated.


Yes this does look like it would be but for $100 more the HC46 gives you almost twice the HAD CCD giving better resolution.You do lose from 20x to12x zoom.

Make sure you go and hold the Cam as you would all day using buttons as you would .This is very easy to not do these things then find out you do it while out at the park.
 
This is a compilations of answers I gave from another thread.

What you need to look for when buying a camcorder:

1. Camera size vs. CCD Sensor size: The smaller it is, the smaller the CCD is going to be, the worse quality it's going to have. Making it worse, no DVD camcorder have the same quality as a mid-end miniDV camcorder.

If you HAVE to go with DVD, then the Sony model 403 is for you. If you can go with miniDV, then the Sony model 90 is for you. Everything else is a compromise.

Most camcorders come with only 1/6" CCD sensors. Those Sonys I mentioned come it 1/3" CCD sensors. The fact that they have 4x the surface area means taking pictures/videos in darker lighting more of a breeze. (much less digital grain, better resolution, better colour rendition).

2. make sure that the microphone is IN FRONT of the camera and NOT brushing with your fingers when you're holding the camcorder. There are too many camcorders with microphone closer to the back of the camera and/or having the risk of brushing with your fingers while recording resulting in bad audio recording. (imagine hearing scraping sound or getting ambient noise instead of your kid's singing)

3. I'd recommend: The miniDV is HC-90 and the DVD is the 403.

These models are going to be replaced (already are, at some locations) with DCR-HC96 (miniDV) and DCR-DVD405 (DVD). The high definition model number remains the same (HDR-HC1)

4. miniDV and D8 both using Motion-JPEG compression. DVD using MPEG2 compression worse than miniDV. That's the problem with interlaced video, there camera captures half a field/frame.

5. 3 CCD vs 1 CCD, if everything else is the same (CCD size, type of lens etc) are the same then the 3 CCD tend to be better in colour accuracy. However, Panasonic's CCD are smaller in size than the two models I gave you hence the low-light performance (indoors, Disney parades, etc) is still worse. Also the Sonys I mentined utilizes Primary Colour Filters to mimic (but not too succesfully) 3 CCD performance.

All in all, with the larger sensor and a somewhat similar colour rendition as the 3 CCD, the Sony is still better (I've tried Sony, Canon, Panasonic and JVC priced at $1200 and lower) with JVC to be the absolute worst.

As much as I love Canon and dislike Sony in general, for camcorders (consumer and prosumer models) there is nothing out there that best Sony just yet.

PS: Panasonic widescreen mode is not "real widescreen" (although they actually advertise it as true widescreen) and just simulated. So instead of having wider angle in widescreen mode, it actually chops off the top and bottom of the screen whereas the Sony and Canon camcorders use real widescreen where the recorded angle is actually wider in widescreen-mode.

6. Please, please, PLEASE moderator, we REALLY need a camcorder sticky.
 
Thank you very much for your help. I knew I should have asked on the boards before I actually bought something. Glad we have such informative people here! Makes life a whole lot easier!
 
At $799 the DCR-HC96 is more than I want to spend. Is the HC46 still ok?
 
ive still got a JVC vhc but the heads are SHOT so i bought a little bitty sony camera for $450, DCR HC21 at circuit city, it does pretty well for the price, here is a video ive taken with it.

...follow the link in my sig, click on videos...

one unfortunate thing is that it does not have video-in except for digital. most pen cameras and data acquisition software requires an analog input. Proly wont matter for vacation pics, but this camera is really annoying for my race day footage.
 














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