Help me understand the digital TV delay

My mother in law has two really old televisions. She does not have cable and until we purchased the converter boxes would not have had television. They run around $45 but for someone that is the electric bill or in my mom's case two weeks of food.


Also one of the big's problems is that for some the only way they get emergency weather notification is through television. Alot of country areas do not have the tornado sirens and people are told to head for the bunkers from the television reports.

The local news mentioned lastnight that they are still planning to go digital this month but are also distributing converter boxes to the needy and those that cannot leave their homes. From what I understand there no further coupons and the funds have dried up for them.
 
And since when did TV become a "necessity" that the government should have even provided these vouchers in the first place?

When the government decided to alter the means of transmission rendering perfectly operative television sets obsolete.
 
My mother in law has two really old televisions. She does not have cable and until we purchased the converter boxes would not have had television. They run around $45 but for someone that is the electric bill or in my mom's case two weeks of food.


Also one of the big's problems is that for some the only way they get emergency weather notification is through television. Alot of country areas do not have the tornado sirens and people are told to head for the bunkers from the television reports.

The local news mentioned lastnight that they are still planning to go digital this month but are also distributing converter boxes to the needy and those that cannot leave their homes. From what I understand there no further coupons and the funds have dried up for them.


Very true. I saw something on the news yesterday that some town in Texas the Meals on Wheels people were helping people they deliver food to with the boxes & set up. the boxes were donated. If my grandparents were alive they would have no idea how to hook up the boxes.

Kae
 
I was SO annoyed when I heard on the news this morning that they'd approved the delay...I can't take FOUR MORE FREAKING MONTHS of these stupid announcements, countdown tickers, etc. Grrrrrrr! :headache:

If people haven't bothered to get ready for the transition by this point, what the heck good is 4 more months going to do? It's not like the entire universe hasn't been warned!

Any bets that they will leave the June deadline alone as we get closer to it?
 

The same people who say they aren't ready now, won't be ready in 3 months or 3 years. Flip the switch & get r' done!!
 
I'm surprised the tv's that are so old they need a digital converter even work still. How old are these tv's anyway? I have two that are over 20 years old and they don't need converter boxes. Those of you who are having the problems, is it because you have a dish or don't have cable?

My TV in my kitchen is 15 years old and works fine. I don't have cable, so yes I need a converter box.
 
Because there is no "national security conflict - steroids in baseball" crisis to hold hearings for...

Mikeeee
 
I heard on the news that the switch was held off because 6 million people would be affected.

My thoughts: We are a nation of over 300 million people so why do 294 million people have to deal with the continued crap?

I'm sure if they did the switch tomorrow those 6 million would figure out real quick how to get it done and wouldn't miss not one episode of their favorite tv show.
 
I heard on the news that the switch was held off because 6 million people would be affected.

My thoughts: We are a nation of over 300 million people so why do 294 million people have to deal with the continued crap?

I'm sure if they did the switch tomorrow those 6 million would figure out real quick how to get it done and wouldn't miss not one episode of their favorite tv show.

How many of the 6 million will still not be ready in June? My guess 5.9 million.
 
My mother in law has two really old televisions. She does not have cable and until we purchased the converter boxes would not have had television. They run around $45 but for someone that is the electric bill or in my mom's case two weeks of food.


Also one of the big's problems is that for some the only way they get emergency weather notification is through television. Alot of country areas do not have the tornado sirens and people are told to head for the bunkers from the television reports.

The local news mentioned lastnight that they are still planning to go digital this month but are also distributing converter boxes to the needy and those that cannot leave their homes. From what I understand there no further coupons and the funds have dried up for them.

I don't believe any of this.

The radio is, and always has been, the best way to get emergency information.
 
I heard on the news that the switch was held off because 6 million people would be affected.

My thoughts: We are a nation of over 300 million people so why do 294 million people have to deal with the continued crap?

I'm sure if they did the switch tomorrow those 6 million would figure out real quick how to get it done and wouldn't miss not one episode of their favorite tv show.

How many of the 6 million will still not be ready in June? My guess 5.9 million.

Exaclty.
 
I think by law (enforcement of which was delayed 6 times) all Government set deadlines have to be pushed back a certain number of times based on the roll of the special 13-sided dice of justice (pat pending) that currently is housed in the U.S. Congress. The same thing is happening with the passports.

Or I could be wrong.
 
Are you sure your TVs won't need boxes after the switch? It's only been for the last 3 years or so that TVs were required to be compatible with the digital signal. Most that were sold before that point will require the converter boxes.

ETA - Of course, if you have cable or direct or dish network you still won't need the converter. Only people who pick up the signal over the air will need the boxes.
We have cable. I guess if we didn't we might have a problem.

My only problem is my little battery opperated tv we watch during hurricanes, when we lose cable and electricity. I'm not happy about that. We relied on that to see where the convection cells were in our area and when we needed to go to our safe room.
 
I've decided the delay is intended to extend the period for retailers to sell digital TVs, decoders, antennas to people who DON'T need them because their TVs will work just fine ....

We won't find out who's "blacked out" until the stations all switch over ....

Since the gov't has botched the coupon program, does it make you wonder who is running the non-existant gov't hotline for problems, it will be left to the TV stations to try and explain to irate TV watchers where their programs went ....

The networks all got together and moved the February sweeps to March so as to avoid the coming chaos ....

Bring it on ... you can't fix it until you break it.
 
Evidently our elected officials just don't have enough important things to worry about so they need something to keep them busy.:rolleyes:


Who will be hurt if we wait? Why the resistance to waiting?
 
We only have cable in the living room. We had to buy two of those boxes (yes with the coupons) for the bedroom tvs. Last night we put the box on our tv, we do have some more channels (as well as the local channel that has gone digital already that we didn't get before last night) but ... now we have this horrible "honing" sound through the tv and can't hear the talking through the annoying noise. Back to the drawing board to see what the problem is... ugggh. :sad2:
 
What IS the big deal? I honestly don't understand it. If by some freak of nature, someone does not know about this transition by now and they have not prepared their tvs, what is the WORST thing that could happen?
Well, to be fair, the worst thing that could happen is that the person has no effective means of monitoring government-issued notifications in an unexpected emergency. That is the only sound foundation for the delay, and it is a pretty thin one, if you ask me, for reasons I'm sure will come up later in the thread.

If they haven't prepared by now in the THREE FREAKING YEARS this has been coming (and actually approved TEN years ago) then they aren't going to finally wake up and prepare in the next three months. Another delay is just stupid.
And the surveys were trending towards an asymptote, meaning that the number of people who will become prepared between the time of the survey (this was December) and the time of the transition (whenever that may be) is going to be statistically insignificant. Basically, at this point, the only thing that is going to motivate a significant number of those who are unprepared to become prepared is losing their television reception entirely.

I heard someone talking on the radio this morning how it'll help "millions of Americans" by delaying the switch. REALLY?
I think they're referring to the fact that about 3 million Americans aren't "ready". However, there is no reason to believe, and several reasons to disbelieve, that the delay will actually result in those people becoming ready.

The hold up is that the millions of poor people who cannot just run out and buy a new tv or install cable must be able to also make the transition to digital. There were vouchers made available so you could get a "box" to put on your old tv (atenna) to make it work with digital but the government ran out of vouchers.
First, there was no reason for those folks to wait as long as they did. Second, even if the coupon program didn't go to a waiting list, many of these procrastinators applied for coupons too late to receive them before the transition, given the advertised six-week wait for coupons after application.

Evidently our elected officials just don't have enough important things to worry about so they need something to keep them busy.:rolleyes:
I think it is more concrete than that: In a way, the administration sees the transition as an inevitable PR mess -- there was no way it could have been designed so that it wouldn't have been. In a way, it's the gag gift for winning the 2008 Presidential election... a stinker that whoever got elected was going to have to deal with. There is no way for the administration to come out of it looking good, even though the intention of the transition was 100% "good".

It's like a mud bath at a spa: Pretty icky while you're going through it, but afterward it feels pretty good, right?

Anyway, figure that the delay puts the ball, to some extent, back in the broadcasters' court. They now can switch on February 17 of their own accord, but in doing so, the viewers who get upset about that can be directed to point their ire at the broadcaster, instead of at the administration, because the decision to switch on February 17 was the broadcaster's decision.

So it is a smart and effective way to reduce the stink of this inevitable stinker.

And since when did TV become a "necessity" that the government should have even provided these vouchers in the first place?
Since the government decided to use television to promulgate emergency response notifications. The use of television, specifically, is necessitated by the need to ensure that such notifications are accessible by as many people as possible, including the deaf (who can read the closed captions) and the blind (who can hear the audio).
 
I heard on the news that the switch was held off because 6 million people would be affected.

My thoughts: We are a nation of over 300 million people so why do 294 million people have to deal with the continued crap?

I'm sure if they did the switch tomorrow those 6 million would figure out real quick how to get it done and wouldn't miss not one episode of their favorite tv show.
I calculated a few weeks ago that there was funding for over twenty two MILLION converter boxes. Are there really that many analog, non-cable/non-dish television sets operating in this country?
 


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