Help me prove DH wrong...

[Dallas_Lady]

DH thinks that most of the guests at WDW stay on property. I say that it's just a small percentage, maybe 15%-20%. He thinks it's more like 75%. Does anyone know where I can find information to prove him wrong? (because I am right, of course )

 

[sunee]

Find out how many rooms there are offsite and how many there are onsite. True, we don't have the occupancy reports, but it gives you a good idea of how many people are staying where.

If nobody was staying in those hotels, they'd go out of business.

I"m guessing that most people stay offsite. I don't know about these boards, lol, but I think the majority of park-goers stay offsite.

 

[wildernesslodgelover]

Hmmm, that is a good question. I will follow this thread in case someone knows the answer.

I will say, though, that I agree with your figures more than his. I mean, there are also probably a fair share of locals and people who are just there for the day. Then people that stay on I drive etc.

I would love to know the answer to this!

 

[johnsonet]

of course you are right. why do you think all those off-property hotels and motels even exist? one reason: wdw. of course there is a lot else to do in the Orlando area but it all began with Disney.

something like 15 million people visit the MK each year. even taking into consideration day-trippers, 75%+ of them aren't all staying on property

 

[zurgswife]

Statistics report that 10.1 million people visited MK last year. 48.3 visited orlando. Even if all the people that visited Orlando came just for WDW it would be 25%. I would guess that at least 50% of the people that visited Orlando did not do so to visit WDW. So, in my estimations the number is at least 50% or more of the people stay on site.

 

[wildernesslodgelover]

It is so sad how awful I am at math, that I cannot even wrap my little pea brain around those numbers. But something doesn't sound right to me.

For instance, some of those people visiting MK could be locals, or day trippers. Also, you said 10 million went to MK, but what about the other parks?

I was just discussing this with my DH, and he agrees with the OP and me. Of course, this is just our guesstimation. I wish we could find some hard facts.

 

[johnsonet]

i just found at least 2 sites that show, for 2006, MK attendance was 16.6 million guests; Epcot was 10 million; MGM was 9+ million and AK was just under 9 million... Universal was something like 5+million~ This stuff is interesting...

 

[wildernesslodgelover]

...and I just found that WDW op property resorts have approximately 24,000 rooms.....

 

[kirbsam]

if wdw has 24,000 rooms and lets say three people per room. that is 72,000 people. now we need to know what the average attendance is at each park, during peak times as that will assume that all rooms are booked.

 

[HannaBelle]

If they say that "10.1 million people visited MK last year", does that mean 10.1 million individuals or do that possible count the same person multiple times?

For instance, if I go for 8 days and go to the MK for 3 days and each day I go in the morning, leave for a mid day break and then go back in the evening...I have entered the turnstiles a total of 6 times. Does that make sense? I am only one person, but I would generate 6 "clicks".



Are they counting clicks or are they counting tickets used?

 

[kathie859]

I would guess that a small percentage of total visits for the parks (that's clicks per day per person) are made by those staying on site. I think off-site visitors outnumber the on-site visitors by 6-1 at the least. Of course, I'd love to see stats, too. But I wouldn't hold my breath for Disney to release that information.

 

[sunee]

Did I misunderstand the question? I thought the OP was asking where park-goers stay: onsite or offsite.

Was I wrong?

 

[kapoof]

the op was asking where do MOST people stay, off or on site.

 

[sunee]

the op was asking where do MOST people stay, off or on site.

OK, seemed to me like it was for WDW. Sometimes I'm slow.

I'm sure the vast and overwhelming majority of people who aren't visiting WDW aren't staying in their hotels.

And I still think the majority of park-goers are staying off-site, too.

 

[wildernesslodgelover]

Where is the confusion? The OP wants to know how many people that are at Disney World are "on site guests."

"DH thinks that most of the guests at WDW stay on property."

Sunee, I think you are right. I mean, that is how I am understanding the post...how many of the parkgoers go back to a WDW room, and how many go home or to an offsite hotel?

 

[BigOnDis]

i just found at least 2 sites that show, for 2006, MK attendance was 16.6 million guests; Epcot was 10 million; MGM was 9+ million and AK was just under 9 million... Universal was something like 5+million~ This stuff is interesting...

OK if we go with these numbers, and I have found the same numbers, then WDW's total attendance for a years is approximately 45 million people.

Now if we take the number of rooms at 24,000 and times them by an 80% occupancy rate (Wild guess here, I have no idea what the occupancy rate would be), time it by 3 people per room (seems like a good average to me) time 365 days a year you would get approximately 21 million people.

So that being said the 50% of the people being on-site guest doesn't seem out of the realm of possibility.

If anyone could find more concrete data, I would be interested to know what the facts are.

 

[Sammie]

More stay at off site hotels than at Disney, there is simply not enough rooms at Disney to handle every guest that visits. For some reason the yearly precentage seems to be about 60% off property.

There are times during the year that Disney resorts do not average that high of occupancy, hence the reason for Free Dining.

 

[HannaBelle]

I agree with the PP's math.

But, my question of how are they counting visitors...by people walking through the turnstiles or by the number of tickets used a day...will have a direct impact on those numbers.

I would think that people staying onsite would me likely to take a mid-day break and go through the turnstiles 2x a day. Does that make sense?

 

[edcrbnsoul]

Visitors to parks each day on average

Magic Kingdom at Walt Disney World in Orlando, 44,110
Epcot at Walt Disney World in Orlando, 27,125
Disney-MGM Studios at Walt Disney World in Orlando, 23,560
Disney's Animal Kingdom at Walt Disney World in Orlando, 22,465

117,260


Total number of guest rooms on Disney Property 31,000 I can't believe that on an Average day that all the rooms are sold and the ones that are I would doubt that they all are at their 4 or 5 person capacity.

 

[branv]

Visitors to parks each day on average

Magic Kingdom at Walt Disney World in Orlando, 44,110
Epcot at Walt Disney World in Orlando, 27,125
Disney-MGM Studios at Walt Disney World in Orlando, 23,560
Disney's Animal Kingdom at Walt Disney World in Orlando, 22,465

117,260


Total number of guest rooms on Disney Property 31,000 I can't believe that on an Average day that all the rooms are sold and the ones that are I would doubt that they all are at their 4 or 5 person capacity.

So if we shoot for an average of 3 people per room:

If WDW hotels run at 80% occupancy, then 24800 of their 31000 rooms would be occupied every day. 24,800x3= 74,400 people staying in WDW rooms a day.

If we assume that all of those occupants are attending the parks each day of their visit, you would divide 74,400 by 117,260 to find out what percentage on-siters account for the daily park attendance.

We would find, therefore, that 63.44% of the visitors to WDW parks could potentially be staying at a WDW hotel. Which is astonishing to me.

Or something...I was an English major, so take my math with a grain of salt and all that.