Help Lice!!! We leave for Disney tomorrow!!

The Mother admitted she didn't get all the nits and wasn't planning on doing anything else. they were planning on swimming which lessens the residual killing of the remaining lice after the shampoo so there goes another back up that the manufacturers count on to kill them. She didn't know what they looked like, had not checked herself or her other kids, wondered if changing the pillowcase was enough. One shampoo is not enough anymore, I have seen a child who shampooed according to the instructions and I know the family, I'm sure they did, and there were still live lice crawling around They have gotten too resistant now because too many families don't follow the instructions and don't "inconvenience " themselves to not spread them. So 3-4 days into Disney all those nits she couldn't be bothered to comb out hatch and crawl right onto the chairs at ITBAB because we all know kids scrunch down in those seats when the bugs come out, guess what other bugs will come out.
 
psssstttt...Dawn...I used to be an Infection Control Nurse. Thus the common sense approach here.

Yes, they're creepy and crawly and they make you itch. But they ARE just an inconvenience.

Y'all make sure you don't go to any movie theaters again, will ya? Leaves the theater emptier for me when I go watch Captain Jack Sparrow.....

:rotfl2: No kidding. When you think of all of the other places you could catch them, a mother who is agonizing about headlice before a vacation to WDW is not a very likely vector.
 
You know, I went back and reread the OP first post. She DID what she was supposed to do, and asked for advice on how to be cautious so she did not spread it.

How does that jive with the idea here that she knowingly exposed other families to disease?
 
So if someone has it and treated themselves hopefully the correct way, you would allow them into your home and sleep in your bed.

No, I am going to banish them for life. There is still a leper colony on Molokai. I am sure there are some empty cottages. ;)
 

You know, I went back and reread the OP first post. She DID what she was supposed to do, and asked for advice on how to be cautious so she did not spread it.

How does that jive with the idea here that she knowingly exposed other families to disease?

Because what would we talk about? :confused3 :rotfl:
 
Do you really want me to answer that? Because I would probably get points if I did......
 
You know, I went back and reread the OP first post. She DID what she was supposed to do, and asked for advice on how to be cautious so she did not spread it.

How does that jive with the idea here that she knowingly exposed other families to disease?

BUT she didn't do what she was supposed to do!!! The most important thing is combing out the nits so they don't hatch and spread. SHE SAID she hadn't combed out all the nits and didn't intend to before leaving.Didn't even know for sure what she was looking for. Even Dawn says she should comb out all the nits before exposing others so even according to Dawn she didn't do what she was supposed to.
 
BUT she didn't do what she was supposed to do!!! The most important thing is combing out the nits so they don't hatch and spread. SHE SAID she hadn't combed out all the nits and didn't intend to before leaving.Didn't even know for sure what she was looking for. Even Dawn says she should comb out all the nits before exposing others so even according to Dawn she didn't do what she was supposed to.

We don't know what she did. Perhaps after it was pointed out to her that she should do that, she did. Personally there are more important things to worry about than lice. TB for example.
 
and those eggs are attached to the hair shaft by a strong glue, the eggs don't just fall off and stay wherever they land. The eggs are no threat until they hatch. That's why you work hard to get the nits out of your hair, so you don't reinfest YOURSELF. And thus when reinfested, infest others.
 
Below is a news release on a clinical report published in the September issue of Pediatrics, the peer-reviewed, scientific journal of the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP). To receive the full text of this report, please contact AAP Communications. The policy will be posted on the AAP Web site on September 3 at http://www.aap.org

NEW HEAD LICE STATEMENT: AAP DISCOURAGES "NO NIT" POLICIES FOR SCHOOL RETURN
CHICAGO - In a new clinical report, the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) attempts to clarify diagnosis and treatment of head lice and makes recommendations for dealing with this condition in school. Among its recommendations, the AAP says no healthy child should be excluded from, or allowed to miss school because of head lice, and that "no nit" policies for return to school should be discouraged. Numerous anecdotal reports exist of children missing weeks of school and even being forced to repeat a grade because of head lice.

Although not painful or a serious health hazard, head lice are the cause of much embarrassment and misunderstanding, many unnecessary days lost from school and work, and millions of dollars spent on remedies.

The AAP recommendations for treating head lice also include:

* School personnel responsible for detecting head lice should be appropriately trained, as it can be difficult to diagnose.
* Permethrin 1 percent (an insecticide) is currently the recommended treatment for head lice.
* Head lice screening programs in schools do not have a significant effect on the incidence of head lice, and are not cost-effective. Parent education programs may be a more appropriate management tool.
* Manually removing nits after medication for killing lice is not necessary to prevent spread. However it may be prudent to remove nits in school-aged children to decrease the chance of mis-diagnosis. Nit removal is tedious and often cannot be accomplished in one sitting.

Because a child with an active head lice infestation has likely had the infestation for a month or more by the time it is discovered, and because the child poses little risk to others and does not have a resulting health problem, he or she should remain in class, but be discouraged from close direct head contact with others.

Head lice are most common in children three to 12 years of age, and all socioeconomic groups are affected. Head lice infestation is not significantly influenced by hair length or by frequent brushing or shampooing. Lice cannot hop or fly; they crawl. Transmission in most cases occurs by direct contact with the head of another infested individual. Indirect spread through contact with personal belongings of an infested individual (combs, brushes, hats) is much less likely, but cannot be excluded.Currently there are a variety of treatments available for head lice including solutions in shampoo and cream rinse formulas, topical agents and manual removal. The AAP recommends Permethrin 1 percent as it has low toxicity for humans and does not cause allergic reaction to individuals with plant allergies. The product is a cream rinse applied to hair that is first shampooed with a non-conditioning shampoo and then towel-dried.

It is probably impossible to totally prevent head lice infestations as young children frequently come into close head-to-head contact with each other. Children should be taught not to share personal items such as combs, brushes and hats. Adults should be aware of the signs and symptoms of head lice infestation, and affected children should be treated promptly to minimize spread to others.

EDITOR'S NOTE: More information on this topic can be found at: Head Lice http://www.medem.com/search/article...=/ZZZ5CPTOBAC.html&soc=AAP&srch_typ=NAV_SERCH

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Yeah the problem there is having to remind 2nd grade girsl not to hug each other and put their arms around each other in the recess yard, good luck there!:confused3
 
Yeah the problem there is having to remind 2nd grade girsl not to hug each other and put their arms around each other in the recess yard, good luck there!:confused3

So then should we all just keep our kids at home just for the off chance they may get lice playing with their friends? My dd just got out of second grade and I did remind her weekly to make sure to do exactly what you posted, but ya know what, she is an 8 yr old little girl and unfortunately, I can't follow her around school to make sure she doesn't get close to her friends. Is that what we should do.?? You should see the pictures she brought home that her teacher took thru the year. She is head to head with several friends in almost all the pictures. No lice either!!!!

My kids did get lice a few years ago from a friend that spent the night My oldest dd got it and passed it on to the other kids and my self. I didn't even know she had it til we went to get her hair cut and the stylist didn't even catch it until she was almost done cutting. Yes it was an inconvenience., but I didn't quarantine my kids until they were "clear" I checked them nightly for nits for about 3 weeks and once I didn't see any more, that was that.

DawnCT1- Thanks, just wanted to put in my .02!!! :)
 
So then should we all just keep our kids at home just for the off chance they may get lice playing with their friends?

Sounds like a great plan to me!:thumbsup2

ETA: not on the off chance, but if they are infected - be cautious not to infect anyone else.
 
How much school are you willing to let your child miss unnecessarily?

If my DD (pictured below) has 'anything' other than a slight cold that is infectious, she'll miss whatever time is necessary. She's had pink-eye (I took her to the doctor IMMEDIATELY), got her medicine, and was told BY her doctor when to return. My sister (when she was a kid) got ring worms; she stayed home until it was cleared by her doctor. Kids get infectious 'illnesses' all the time. Many might not be emergencies or life threatening, but require a certain amount of care. It’s in my best interest to insure her 'wellness' so these things don't continue to spread to other children and even back to her. I've always thought that was responsible. Anything else IMO is irresponsible. I will leave my job in a minute (without second thought) for my daughter’s wellness. My job helps pay my bills, my DD comforts my heart. She is more important than any job, school, etc. If she's uncomfortable, be it from an itch, or bruise, I am uncomfortable. So if that means 1 day or a week out of school - so be it. Period!
 
If my DD (pictured below) has 'anything' other than a slight cold that is infectious, she'll miss whatever time is necessary. She's had pink-eye (I took her to the doctor IMMEDIATELY), got her medicine, and was told BY her doctor when to return. My sister (when she was a kid) got ring worms; she stayed home until it was cleared by her doctor. Kids get infectious 'illnesses' all the time. Many might not be emergencies or life threatening, but require a certain amount of care. It’s in my best interest to insure her 'wellness' so these things don't continue to spread to other children and even back to her. I've always thought that was responsible. Anything else IMO is irresponsible. I will leave my job in a minute (without second thought) for my daughter’s wellness. My job helps pay my bills, my DD comforts my heart. She is more important than any job, school, etc. If she's uncomfortable, be it from an itch, or bruise, I am uncomfortable. So if that means 1 day or a week out of school - so be it. Period!

With infectious diseases that require children being kept at home, absolutely. Head lice? Not necessary. BTW, the bolded area is very sweet.
 












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