Have you gotten a COVID vaccine?

[mefordis]

It may be due to the fact that the first one made them very sick.

Occam's razor

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

And this shows why we need a national strategy. Your state may have everyone in the general public getting vaccines by February? Meanwhile NY state says it will be June before groups 1a & b (essential workers & over 65) are done at the rate they are currently getting doses in. Seems to me the allocation of doses needs to be adjusted so high risk groups aren’t being left behind just because of where they live.

The national strategy was chosen to be allocated on population size of a given state. What you are talking about is switching that national strategy to be based on high-risk groups (the CDC wanted high-risk allocation based). Either way there's only so much vaccines the Federal government paid for. We should be in a better place the more choices of vaccines we have as it eases the burden.

I know national strategy is the buzz word these days but believe it or not there are actually decisions made on national strategy...not as many as some would hope, not as robust as some would hope, not the plan some would hope for. But what was given is that states are the main decision makers. That is actually a national strategy to choose to do that rather than have the Federal government be the ones making all or nearly all the decisions for the states with the states not having much input.

 

[longboard55]

we would have been much better off using stimulus money to get the vaccine rollout moving, than giving everyone $600.

 

[OKW Lover]

My wife and I got our first dose last week. Scheduled for the second dose in early February. Only ill effect was soreness at the injection site that disappeared after ~36 hours.

 

[Donaldswife]

we would have been much better off using stimulus money to get the vaccine rollout moving, than giving everyone $600.

I think we could have used that $600 to incentivize getting the vaccine. Once you have both doses you get a check. And still give out the $1400 stimulus as qualified. Might make the problem of people not showing for the second does disappear.

 

[mrs. magoo]

My aunt and her husband both received their first shot in Arizona on Saturday. They went to State Farm Stadium. My aunt went along with her husband because it is an hour drive. She was not eligible based on age yet. She is 73. When they pulled up the person asked if she was her husband's plus one. My aunt said that she does not qualify based on age yet the person said it doesn't matter if you want it you can have it. She said sure. It was drive through process and they were done in 40 minutes even with having to fill out additional paperwork for my aunt.

Meanwhile in NYS my father and I are going at 5:30 to receive our first dose. My friends who went yesterday said it was a smooth process and the second dose was scheduled on site. Fingers crossed it goes well.

 

[TwoMisfits]

we would have been much better off using stimulus money to get the vaccine rollout moving, than giving everyone $600.

There was stimulus money to get the vaccine rollout moving - all states should have it from the Dec bill...it was not an either/or, but a both/and in the Dec bill...

Just b/c Guardian had the best breakdown, not b/c it's the best site...

Covid-19 vaccine and testing
There is $69bn included in the bill to aid Covid-19 vaccine distribution, contact tracing and testing. This includes $9bn to healthcare providers and $4.5bn to mental health services. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said last week that more than a million people in the US had received the first dose of the vaccine – 10 days after Covid-19 vaccine administration began in the country.

So, each state probably gets their portion - say $500M for small states and $2-3B for big ones...that's a lot of funds already...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/dec/28/us-stimulus-coronavirus-relief-package-bill

 

[focusondisney]

The national strategy was chosen to be allocated on population size of a given state. What you are talking about is switching that national strategy to be based on high-risk groups (the CDC wanted high-risk allocation based). Either way there's only so much vaccines the Federal government paid for. We should be in a better place the more choices of vaccines we have as it eases the burden.

I know national strategy is the buzz word these days but believe it or not there are actually decisions made on national strategy...not as many as some would hope, not as robust as some would hope, not the plan some would hope for. But what was given is that states are the main decision makers. That is actually a national strategy to choose to do that rather than have the Federal government be the ones making all or nearly all the decisions for the states with the states not having much input.

If doses are allocated on population, all states should be ending at approximately the same time, regardless of how they decided to go thru their priority groups. That poster said her state is getting enough for all their population to be done by Feb/ March. And with the current allocation, NY state won’t even start general population for at least another 6 -7 months. That is what I am referring to as national strategy. Allocating doses so the whole country is moving along at the same general rate. NY’s issue is NOT the actual vaccination process. It is not having enough doses. As a matter of fact, NY received 50,000 less doses this week than we are supposed to.

 

[kymom99]

I think we could have used that $600 to incentivize getting the vaccine. Once you have both doses you get a check. And still give out the $1400 stimulus as qualified. Might make the problem of people not showing for the second does disappear.

There are people who don’t qualify yet to get the vaccine who needed the stimulus

 

[Donaldswife]

There are people who don’t qualify yet to get the vaccine who needed the stimulus

There are people who don’t qualify yet to get the vaccine who needed the stimulus

Yes, that is why I said $1400 for all who qualify for the stimulus immediately and $600 when you are vaccinated. It is too late now as the $600 already went out, but that is how I would have liked to see it done. We could still incentivize completing the vaccine with the next round of stimulus if that was a desire of our current leaders.

 

[Lumpy1106]

I think we could have used that $600 to incentivize getting the vaccine. Once you have both doses you get a check. And still give out the $1400 stimulus as qualified. Might make the problem of people not showing for the second does disappear.

You wouldn't have to pay anyone in SoCal. The vaccine rollout has been atrocious. CA is 49th out of 50 states for the percentage of people vaccinated and the percentage of vaccine administered. We've been trying to get my 76 yo DM vaccinated. You have to get an appointment to get the vaccine, but what resources there are to make appointments just say that no appointments are available. No wait list or anything like that - you just have to keep checking back.

I have thoughts about those who are reluctant to vaccinate that I simply cannot share here if you get my meaning...

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

If doses are allocated on population, all states should be ending at approximately the same time, regardless of how they decided to go thru their priority groups. That poster said her state is getting enough for all their population to be done by Feb/ March. And with the current allocation, NY state won’t even start general population for at least another 6 -7 months. That is what I am referring to as national strategy. Allocating doses so the whole country is moving along at the same general rate. NY’s issue is NOT the actual vaccination process. It is not having enough doses. As a matter of fact, NY received 50,000 less doses this week than we are supposed to.

Not necessarily.

You have how many people choose to get the vaccine which cannot be determined when a state is being sent X amount. You have how many in each priority list. To give a quote from an article I read: "Distributing the very first, precious supply of available vaccines based only on each state's adult population will lead to unequal distribution of the vaccine among health care workers – our highest-priority population – due to the simple fact that some states have a larger share of health care workers than others." You have the geographic limitations of a state, how the populations are spread out (or not so spread out), you have size of state, etc and those can impact how quickly and how well you can vaccinate the state's population.

The population allocation is hindering us right now for my state because we have just under 3 million people so not much in comparison but that doesn't necessarily mean we have a small amount of X group. There's 25K healthcare workers in my county alone that said they wanted the vaccine.

As far as moving along at the same general rate even if you have allocating based on high risk group that won't equate to completing that group at around the same rate across the country. How many people choose to get the vaccine. How many of said high risk group there is, there's staggering of vaccination such that you don't take all critical people out at once and people's side effects can determine how long they are out, how many receive their 2nd dose as opposed to only their 1st dose, etc.

As far as NY situation it's much the same with my state not having enough doses. But NY is doing mass vaccinations sites at this time. My state doesn't have enough doses to do that yet.

Now if you do it based on high risk group there will be a downside to that as well. It may be more equitable to the burden a given state's population but it could lead to a state being done before another one as well just because of who in X priority group qualifies and chooses to get it and it could lead to people being upset that one state has more vaccines than another (which really there isn't a way to go around that) because they have more healthcare workers, or they have more elderly or they have more of their population with underlying health conditions, etc.

I'm not actually disagreeing with your viewpoint but I was trying to point out that a national strategy actually was there and it was chosen to be based on population of each state. The quote was literally: "At the end of the day, that is a decision of the U.S. government's to make....states would get the final say in whether to abide by the government's recommendations (as in priority groups and their order)" The decision was to allocate on population and let the states make their own prioritization plan with the option to adopt fully or partially the CDC's guidance on the matter.

 

[godisney14]

You wouldn't have to pay anyone in SoCal. The vaccine rollout has been atrocious. CA is 49th out of 50 states for the percentage of people vaccinated and the percentage of vaccine administered. We've been trying to get my 76 yo DM vaccinated. You have to get an appointment to get the vaccine, but what resources there are to make appointments just say that no appointments are available. No wait list or anything like that - you just have to keep checking back.

I have thoughts about those who are reluctant to vaccinate that I simply cannot share here if you get my meaning...

Understand what you mean. I have similar thoughts about those who don’t wear masks properly in necessary situations. But, I’ll leave it at that.

 

[Simba's Mom]

DH and I both got the first dose of the Moderna vaccine at our doctor's office on January 7th, since we're both over 65, in Texas Now I'm just holding my breathe until we're supposed to get our second, February 4th I'm just so afraid something will happen and there won't be any doses available Easy shot, less painful than a flu shot for us, and although our arms were a little sore, it was less sore than after a flu shot Otherwise, we had no side effects

 

[kimmylaj]

NYC preschool teacher here (fully in person) so a 1b in New York vaccine rules. Was able to get my vaccine through a NYC employee site. Made appt number 2 thru an email before I left. Husband also teaching, got his the same day. Sore arm on day 2, quite tired day 3, but teaching little people may be the cause. Was able to secure appts for my elderly parents and aunt thru NYC covid vaccine hub but it took a lot of luck and persistence. I swear Disney trained me for this. I studied social media regarding drop times and kept refreshing multiple times per day. It was a challenge for sure. Now just hoping they don't run out of vaccines by weeks end, when mom is scheduled to get dose 1. Good luck to everyone

 

[sk!mom]

Got my second Pfizer shot this morning. So far, I feel fine.

 

[godisney14]

Some people in San Diego, CA area may need to wait just a little bit longer.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alison...han-usual-allergic-reactions/?sh=75f439a17dfa

Not a large number of affected, but it is significantly higher than what should be anticipated statistically.
Unfortunately, no other details yet that I see from a brief read online.

 

[georgina]

I don’t know what areas or states are holding up any vaccinations for “holidays“. I’m in western NY. Our area had clinics set up thru state, county & pharmacy chains for Monday, Tuesday & Wednesday this week. So on MLK Day & Inauguration Day. They were all cancelled. Not because of MLK Day or the Inauguration, but because NY state did not get their expected allotment of doses. So we are in hold & wait. Because of lack of vaccines, nothing else.

And yes, there is a national emergency. Too bad we don’t have a national strategy for dealing with it.

I hear ya. My sisters and their husbands, all snowbirds who own 2nd homes in Florida have gotten their first shots down there. Friend in Texas has gotten his. Here in SW PA, there are no clinics set up, they are still doing health care workers and nursing home residents (we have a LOT of old people here). DH is over 65 and I would like him to get his vaccine, but it looks like it will be months.

 

[olliesmom]

I've gotten my first vaccine (Pfizer) - other than some mild arm soreness the first evening, I've had zero side effects. A few of my colleagues who have gotten their second dose have had a brief fever and more muscle aches/soreness, but I still can't wait to get mine!

As a side note, I'm pregnant right now but a frontline healthcare worker and care for COVID patients regularly, so decided to go ahead with the vaccine as the known risks of COVID outweighed the unknown of the vaccine. A very individual choice of course, but baby girl has been kicking away like crazy and is doing great.

 

[RoseBen009]

I received my first dose of Moderna this afternoon. I am feeling soreness in my arm, but otherwise feel just fine. Looking forward to Feb. 15th when I can get my second dose!