Have they ever had an annual pass restricted to when staying on property?

[Straulin]

Title says it all. With all the issues with annual passes, my wife and I were discussing them. I wondered why they didn’t have an annual pass that required a matching resort reservation. Is that something they have done in the past? It seemed like a good way to keep folks in the bubble.

**edit: corrected a run on sentence.**

 

[WilsonFlyer]

No. Not that anybody can ever recall.

https://www.disboards.com/threads/resort-only-major-gates-ap-would-you-buy.3872932/

 

[Straulin]

No. Not that anybody can ever recall.

https://www.disboards.com/threads/resort-only-major-gates-ap-would-you-buy.3872932/

I searched before posting but didn’t find this. It seems a good idea. I’ll read the other post. Thanks!

 

[RoseGold]

They are just backing into it with the park reservations instead of being upfront and saying that. That is exactly where this is headed. I have an AP and was able to make hotel guest park reservations, but not regular AP ones. It was kind of last minute.

 

[Sandisw]

No, nothing like that Has ever been offered. I think it would be a great product, especially for those who own DVC.

That would be a nice membership extra, and help them meet the goal of not having too many AP holders because as an onsite guest, you are similar to day guests…well, except for the whole spending part! Lol

 

[Miffy]

I'm trying to figure out how they would sell this. I guess you'd have to already have an onsite resort reservation and then they'd let you purchase it. But then you'd have an AP.

If, say, you went again in 3 months and stayed off-site, would the AP be useless? Would the tapstiles not let you in?

And if you have this AP and it's up for renewal and you don't have an onsite resort reservation yet, will it be renewable?

Just wondering how this would work.

 

[BeachClub2014]

I'm trying to figure out how they would sell this. I guess you'd have to already have an onsite resort reservation and then they'd let you purchase it. But then you'd have an AP.

If, say, you went again in 3 months and stayed off-site, would the AP be useless? Would the tapstiles not let you in?

And if you have this AP and it's up for renewal and you don't have an onsite resort reservation yet, will it be renewable?

Just wondering how this would work.

I assume they could tie it to your resort as they do for the early entry scans?

 

[BeachClub2014]

No, nothing like that Has ever been offered. I think it would be a great product, especially for those who own DVC.

That would be a nice membership extra, and help them meet the goal of not having too many AP holders because as an onsite guest, you are similar to day guests…well, except for the whole spending part! Lol

Isn't that basically the same as the old Length of Stay passes that they sold? That was so long ago that I can't recall the specifics.

 

[Sandisw]

Isn't that basically the same as the old Length of Stay passes that they sold? That was so long ago that I can't recall the specifics.

Not the same because the length of stay was for each trip. You bought each time you stayed.

The Op asked about an AP and there has never been One that gave you unlimited days when staying onsite but wasn’t good if you did not.

All APs were simply good no matter where you stayed.

 

[BeachClub2014]

Not the same because the length of stay was for each trip. You bought each time you stayed.

The Op asked about an AP and there has never been One that gave you unlimited days when staying onsite but wasn’t good if you did not.

All APs were simply good no matter where you stayed.

Right, I get that. But in essence, the LOS pass would be similar to an AP that only works while staying onsite. Just depends on the pricing.

 

[Miffy]

Right, I get that. But in essence, the LOS pass would be similar to an AP that only works while staying onsite. Just depends on the pricing.

I get what you're saying, but the beauty (or horror!) of an AP is that it's luring you on to future visits in the same year that it's active. With a LOS pass, there's no next trip, at least not one whose park admission you've already paid for.

 

[Straulin]

I'm trying to figure out how they would sell this. I guess you'd have to already have an onsite resort reservation and then they'd let you purchase it. But then you'd have an AP.

If, say, you went again in 3 months and stayed off-site, would the AP be useless? Would the tapstiles not let you in?

And if you have this AP and it's up for renewal and you don't have an onsite resort reservation yet, will it be renewable?

Just wondering how this would work.

I would just think they would sell it as any other pass with similar renewal process. The blackout dates would just be every date that you don’t have a resort reservation. They already have the system setup to recognize folks staying on site as demonstrated when scanning for free parking at the parks. Scanning into a park any date without a reservation would work just like trying to scan in with another pass on a blackout date.

 

[bwvBound]

They are just backing into it with the park reservations instead of being upfront and saying that. That is exactly where this is headed. I have an AP and was able to make hotel guest park reservations, but not regular AP ones. It was kind of last minute.

Agreed!

Related: We are now in our 2nd year of "Magic Key" passes at DLR. I've had no trouble booking park reservations because our DVC reservations at the Grand Cal count for using "the hotel bucket" of theme park reservations. Each Disney hotel/DVC reservation is good for ~30 day window around your travel date ... so we tend to book and stay at the Grand Cal monthly. Works for us! (Thank you, DVC!!)

 

[WilsonFlyer]

I'm trying to figure out how they would sell this. I guess you'd have to already have an onsite resort reservation and then they'd let you purchase it. But then you'd have an AP.

If, say, you went again in 3 months and stayed off-site, would the AP be useless? Would the tapstiles not let you in?

And if you have this AP and it's up for renewal and you don't have an onsite resort reservation yet, will it be renewable?

Just wondering how this would work.

It's not that complicated. At least not as I proposed it. Why wouldn't they let you buy it without any pending reservations? No money out of their pockets. Just the opposite, as a matter of fact. It's no good unless you're staying onsite. That goes to your second paragraph. As to the third regarding renewal, see the first answer.

 

[kes601]

I'm trying to figure out how they would sell this. I guess you'd have to already have an onsite resort reservation and then they'd let you purchase it. But then you'd have an AP.

If, say, you went again in 3 months and stayed off-site, would the AP be useless? Would the tapstiles not let you in?

And if you have this AP and it's up for renewal and you don't have an onsite resort reservation yet, will it be renewable?

Just wondering how this would work.

It would work in that the system would read whether you have a resort stay. If you do the tap-stye would let you in (assuming you also have a park reservation). If you don't the tap-stye would turn blue. The CM would hold up their fist, guest services would come over and explain to you why you can't get in and everybody in line would get annoyed

 

[DL1WDW2]

Are you suggesting an Annual Pass goof for one year that would require on site reservation to be allowed to use it?
Sounds ridiculous until my brain says oh wait a minute…
That sounds familiar … Aka money for Disney no matter what they call it.
I have AP but can barely use it because of the 5 day limit advance park reservation requirement. … I am holding 3 days because family will visit for NYE$$$ and another one day family visit and then do I choose Josh or Neil for Candlelight? And that’s all I can do and I live very very close to property.
Just went to Disney Springs and spent over $200 plus dining and now I am so mad at myself I am thinking about going back tomorrow to return everything.
Have to be mad at myself cause it does No good to be angry with Disney.

 

[Sandisw]

I'm trying to figure out how they would sell this. I guess you'd have to already have an onsite resort reservation and then they'd let you purchase it. But then you'd have an AP.

If, say, you went again in 3 months and stayed off-site, would the AP be useless? Would the tapstiles not let you in?

And if you have this AP and it's up for renewal and you don't have an onsite resort reservation yet, will it be renewable?

Just wondering how this would work.

IMO, you buy some level of a voucher for the year, but each time you go, you have to go to guest relations and they verify the onsite stay, and you now have an active pass for those days.

So, no need to have something booked ahead of time because it wouod be of no value if you don’t have the trip booked when you go to use it.

 

[shoegal9]

I would buy this pass if Sorcerer was no longer sold. I spend about 30-40 days a year in the parks and we always stay on property (DVC). We are Florida residents but live 3 hours away- so we don't pop in on random days.

It certainly wouldn't work for everyone.. but for some of us it would.

 

[Straulin]

Are you suggesting an Annual Pass goof for one year that would require on site reservation to be allowed to use it?
Sounds ridiculous until my brain says oh wait a minute…
That sounds familiar … Aka money for Disney no matter what they call it.
I have AP but can barely use it because of the 5 day limit advance park reservation requirement. … I am holding 3 days because family will visit for NYE$$$ and another one day family visit and then do I choose Josh or Neil for Candlelight? And that’s all I can do and I live very very close to property.
Just went to Disney Springs and spent over $200 plus dining and now I am so mad at myself I am thinking about going back tomorrow to return everything.
Have to be mad at myself cause it does No good to be angry with Disney

That was the thought. Seems like something that would benefit Disney financially. They want to maximize the spending per guest but I will be shocked if they can keep the parks full with ‘once a lifetime’ to ‘once a year ‘ guests once the backlog from the COVID closures has finally ended.

Next highest spending per guest would be the guests that come just a few times per year. If they did a pass that required a resort stay, they would fill their rooms and give us more reason to stay in the bubble with our spending. The pass would also incentivize those once a year guests to become 2-3 time a year guests to get their money’s worth on the passes. I expect that is the sweet spot for passsholders. Any more than that and their spending per day will drop dramatically.

 

[DL1WDW2]

I got the impression the problem was with locals for the DL Resorts… It’s far too easy to take advantage of the 2 connected parks and Downtown Disney connecting them .

Its time to think beyond this creating the perfect AP for me or for you design .
Not going to happen .
We need to think about the actual plans And words used for Disney future plans. And think about that because it will be a membership program that combines a package of offers that we sign up to belong to for a yearly fee and we also give them all the tracking / selling of info to offer us more from their “partners” .
Has anybody seen how locked in State Farm has become with Disney ? State Farm obviously has taken on this partnership because Disney finds it easier to have others pay them for the privilege of using the Disney name . State Farm has their company on the Wide World of Sports and maybe some of the ESPN… kinda like how DVC takes on those things Disney doesn’t necessarily want to deal with .
It’s actually hard to keep track of but it was simple back in the day of Walt Disney. He needed to have these agreements to survive but not like today!
Disney wants to have Amazon Prime money and that is exactly how they described it. Amazon Prime members pay for those membership agreements and can’t stop spending apparently.
Disney needs that kind of membership and they are tracking the demand for APs as they create this new Disney Sign up to belong membership.
Im trying to determine or asking everybody to think about this when we try to imagine the return of AP .
What in the World will this be?
They already have Me at DVC and D23 and Disney+ and MDE & DisneyGenie . Haha