Hate to do this, but have a topic about abortion...

Lisa loves Pooh said:
Just read your website and posted on your message board. I did right "beautiful testimony"--and hate it when I say things without thinking....I did mean that the way that you wrote your story was wonderful and that you are such a beautiful person who handled the situation wonderfully--so sorry for the awkward post.

Not a problem... I don't think testimony is innapropriate..Of course I'm not Christian so it doesn't work in that sense,but I am a G-d Believer and I do belive that G-d has helped get me through all of this.. I've always felt his presence including now
 
Jenny,

*sigh* Your post has got to be the most disturbing thing I have ever read. I cannot respond to it right now because I need time to compose my thoughts without sounding judgemental.
 
I am against abortion, both for myself and others. I could never give support to someone to help them have one. I could never drive them there, hold there hand, tell them it's okay, etc. I would be there afterwards to help them find forgivenss or whatever, because I know they would likely need major emotional support for what they did (I wouldn't say "It's okay" or make them believe they did the right thing, though) but could never do anything to enable one.
 

Babar you're a great friend. I'm pro-choice, so I wouldn't have a conflict about helping someone through this. To have the feelings that you do (and you too Pooh and Wendy), and still be there just blows me away, way to go!!

Jenny, I'll pray for you to get through the next week or 2, and will continue to pray that your body stays well, and that we soon find a cure for this wicked disease. I think your inner strength has let you come this far, and will continue to carry you into the future. May God bless and keep you and your family.
 
I would like to share my experience on this subject:

I have personally gone through this situation. I got pregnant at a very young age and it was very hard to tell my parents, as they are very religious. My mother told me she loved me and would be with me through the whole thing when she found out (even though it was probably a shock, and I know she was disappointed).

I will try to be kind, as well, when I speak of my opinion, since I am in the minority here. Please dont flame me, as I, too, am just trying to give my honest opionion, even though it is different than yours.

I am pro-life. My religion teaches there are other alternatives to abortion. What I did is put my baby up for adoption. Actually going through with the pregnancy--whether you keep the baby, or not, is "the hardest choice a person could make", in my opinion.

the first thing my parents did is start me in counceling. Right before I started 'showing' I switched schools. I went to a school that was specifically for pregnant young girls (this was many years ago). I was actualy surprised to see people I know there. A van actually came to my house and picked me up for school, then drove me home afterward. There were also girls there who lived in a house for pregnant teens, and the van would drive them, as well (it was a very nice, large house). Those were girls who maybe couldnt live at home, or chose to go away and have the baby, then go back home. Some kept thier baby, some did not.

I did not miss one day of school, in fact, I ended up graduating early when I went back to my regular school (after I had the baby and put it up for adoption), since I was so far ahead.

It was a stressful and hard time, but it did not last forever, and I will never, ever feel the guilt that many of the people I know feel who have had abortions. I do not condemn them, yet I would have to say that I would never be able to go with someone to get an abortion. I feel it would be me condoning something I am very much against. I would still love my friend, be there for her in other ways, listen to her, but I would not agree that she had no other choice, etc... My friends know what choice I made, and yes, they have/had the right to make thier own choices, but I would fully expect my friend to respect my religious beliefs enough to understand why I couldn't possible go with her for the actual procedure.

As for the terrible behavior some people have wittnessed from anti-abortionists: I do not agree with that kind of behavior---I think it is wrong to be so aggressive. If the pro-lifers want to share thier beliefs and show girls that they have opther options, they can do it in other, nicer ways.

Everyone DOES have the right to make thier own decisions. I, personally, couldnt live with myself if I ever ended a pregnancy, and I am comfortable with my decision enough that I feel that when it comes to (what I belileve) is judment day, I wont have to worry about the decision I made. If you do not believe what I believe, then you would not have to have the guilt that I would feel, and the worry about what will happen because of my decision, etc...

Again, it's all in what you believe. Pro-choicers who do not feel the way I feel, or maybe was not brought up in the same religion---or, dont agree with it if you did.......In YOUR heart, what you did is okay. In MY heart, it is not okay. Personally, my faith in God, and my beliefs about abortion (which again is just MY beief) is more important to me than if my friend gets mad at me for not holding her hand while she does something that I believe to be a mortal sin. I do believe that God is a forgiving God, and that people can be sorry, ask for forgiveness and repent,, so it's not that I think people who get abortions are all going to %%%%.

And, again, I would most definately still love a friend who got an abortion, listen to her, let her cry on my houlder, etc... but I could not be there for the act. I would tel her about the other options, tell her about my experience, then let her make her own decision. I would not condemn her, though. I would pray for her and the baby.

PS: To finish off my story, I went on with my life, went to college, did everything I would have done had I not gotten pregnant. Then, when my son turned 18 I CHOSE to find him and I did. We had a lovely reunion.

In closing, do what YOU feel is right in YOUR heart. This is just MY sotry. It is always nice, I think, to hear directly from someone who went the other route...that is how we all learn. We choose our own paths, destiny and yu do have the right to make yours.... so if that is pro-choice, I guess I am, just not the same choice as a lot of others. But, mine, nonetheless. I hope I dont get flamed too much. Lets just learn about each other. Thank you all for sharing your stories, I hope to learn a lot from you all. I do respect everything you all have to say, I just might not always agree.
 
You ARE strong, and you ARE brave, and you are a survivor in many ways. I understand how horrible this decision must be for you. I am sad that after going through so much that now you have to go through more. I hope you know that we are pulling for you and we wish for you to be healthy and happy.

I have been volunteering with AIDS clients since 1994. Some of my dearest friends are HIV+. It is shameful that so much funding has been cut and that the government is so unresponsive. It is shameful that the drugs are so expensive and have so many side effects. Nothing about AIDS is easy. Part of the reason I am so motivated to help is because there seem to be so few people who DO want to help. AIDS isn't very glamorous and there is still such a stigma that people with AIDS have done something wrong or deserve their diagnosis. DH and I talk about how if you have breast cancer the world beats a path to your door, but if you have AIDS they all run away.

I think you realize that an abortion is necessary for you in this circumstance. Nobody is going to think less of you for doing what you have to do. I hope there is some way that some funds become available to help you with this!! I assume you have contacted all of the AIDS services in your area? I am trying to think what I would suggest if I had a client in your situation, but I am simply not knowledgeable about services in your state.

Best of luck to you!!! :grouphug:

Please feel free to PM if you like! :)
 
LindsayDunn228 said:
Jenny,

*sigh* Your post has got to be the most disturbing thing I have ever read. I cannot respond to it right now because I need time to compose my thoughts without sounding judgemental.

Now I am very curious!!!!
 
magicfan, your story blew me away. You were a strong woman then and you are a strong woman now. No flames from me. Bless you and your child. :grouphug:
 
poohandwendy said:
I would like to encourage others to read JennymominRI's homepage, if you haven't already done so. She is indeed a courageous woman with an incredible story. (I hope you don't mind Jenny, you are so well spoken, open and honest and your story can make such a difference, IMO)

I just wanted to second this - your story is amazing Jenny. Lots of prayers and good thoughts that you have the strength for this next part of your journey. :hug:
 
Jenny, your story is powerful and inspiring. I work for a social service agency where 70% of the clients have AIDS. I understand the disease from a physical perspective and I have compassion for people suffering from AIDS.

After reading your story, I understood that I really did not have an appreciation for the tremendous emotional toll of HIV. Despite being active in the gay community, I do not have any HIV+ friends and I do not know anyone who has passed away from AIDS. I'm lucky and admittedly sheltered by my homebody lifestyle. I took a semester long course on AIDS in college and studied personal histories in a human sexuality course, but your story inspired me unlike any that I have read. When in the course of work I meet someone with AIDS, I now think of you and your honest and brave testimonial of living with AIDS.

Thank you for sharing. You have touched my life.
 
Jenny, you can be sure your webpage will go over it's allowed bandwidth tonight. I for one followed P&W's advice and surfed on over and read your entire story, thru blurry, teary eyes.

I don't really know what to say that hasn't already been said... you are an amazingly strong, courageous, and inspirational person. I personally don't think you deserve any criticism that will be coming your way...

I will be thinking of you during this next part of your journey, as someone above said. Many good thoughts for you and your loved ones. :goodvibes

Thank you SO very much for sharing your story with us.

Julia
 
I really hesitate to post this as it is so painful for me right now.. I am 9 weeks pregnant and I'm having an abortion..It was supposed to be tomorrow.

I am wondering about your phrasing here. You say "It was supposed to be tomorrow."

Is it no longer happening tomorrow or was that just a mistake on your phrasing of it?

Regardless of my personal feelings here, I wish you best and I hope you eventually find peace.
 
6_Time_Momma said:
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Is it no longer happening tomorrow or was that just a mistake on your phrasing of it?

Regardless of my personal feelings here, I wish you best and I hope you eventually find peace.


MY ObGyn.. The Head of OBGYN here at Women and Infants was involved in a head on collision this weekend..His niece who was in the car with him is dead and he has pretty severe injuries and is in an ICU in Texas..They have canceled all of the surgeries for tomorrow,but I should be able to get it done sometime this week.. I've also contacted my old Military Doctor in San Deigo and may go there to have it done..I can get it done at no charge there.. He also may send me to Maryland...There are only 2 Naval Hospitals in the contry that have an actual HIV unit..Onr is Balboa Naval Hospital in San Diego,where I got treatment until last July and the other is Bethesda MD.
 
Wow. Where to begin. Abortion is wrong. I will pray for all of those who think otherwise. There are more of you on the fence then you think. Why else would you all say " I would never have an abortion but..." You would never have an abortion because you know in your heart of hearts that to do so is morally wrong and against God's law. C'mon, all of you who profess to have some ties to a Christian religion--can you really envision Christ performing an abortion? If not, guess what? It is morally wrong.

What if I were to say that I drove the get-away car for a bank robber. Would it be okay because I did not rob the bank myself? Of course not. I know robbing banks is wrong. But of course it is not as wrong as abortion because nobody dies!

Abortion is a great scourge on America. We mislead people into believing that killing is okay because it is condoned by our government. I reiterate. What would Jesus do? Would he perform an abortion? If your answer to that question is no, then you must not truly believe in the sanctity of abortion. It is just some propoganda that you are being sold. Buy it at your peril. As for me and my house, we shall serve the Lord.
 
IMGONNABE40! said:
. I reiterate. What would Jesus do?
Well,Jesus was a Jew.If you believe he followed Jewish law than he would certainly support abortion if the life of the mother was at risk
 
IMGONNABE40! said:
Wow. Where to begin. Abortion is wrong. I will pray for all of those who think otherwise. There are more of you on the fence then you think. Why else would you all say " I would never have an abortion but..." You would never have an abortion because you know in your heart of hearts that to do so is morally wrong and against God's law. C'mon, all of you who profess to have some ties to a Christian religion--can you really envision Christ performing an abortion? If not, guess what? It is morally wrong.

What if I were to say that I drove the get-away car for a bank robber. Would it be okay because I did not rob the bank myself? Of course not. I know robbing banks is wrong. But of course it is not as wrong as abortion because nobody dies!

Abortion is a great scourge on America. We mislead people into believing that killing is okay because it is condoned by our government. I reiterate. What would Jesus do? Would he perform an abortion? If your answer to that question is no, then you must not truly believe in the sanctity of abortion. It is just some propoganda that you are being sold. Buy it at your peril. As for me and my house, we shall serve the Lord.

Would Jesus perform a root canal? How about an appendectomy? Was Jesus in the medical profession? :confused3

We do know Jesus would not judge...
 
chobie said:
Was Jesus in the medical profession?
Well,If you believe the gospels he did a much better job healing the sick than many doctors do :earboy2:
 
IMGONNABE40! said:
Abortion is wrong. I will pray for all of those who think otherwise. There are more of you on the fence then you think.

No need for prayers here for me as there is no fence within view. I know my opinion and stand by it... we can disagree and share differing opinions, even about something you feel so vehemently against, you know. It's just how it is. I do not need your prayers as I feel no guilt for being 100% pro-choice. And I, for one, will never ever judge anyone.
 












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