Hate to burst your bubble(s)

[jdg345]

$6 a point!! That's even more then VB!

That's what I was thinking ... I can't imagine it would be more than VB considering VB has hurricanes and beach erosion to deal with ... unless they're going to stick all CRV owners with the brunt of the Monorail costs ...

 

[emacman]

I admit I have not around these boards in a very long time, but what is this CRV everybody is talking about? Literally, what is it? What is the speculation. Thanks in advance for catching me up.
Emacman

 

[lisareniff]

One of the most concrete things toward a DVC at CR (hense CRV) was a drawing that Tink10 found. Look at this thread...

Tink10's discovery!

With the DVC closing in on a SSR sell out and the fact that Disney has not announced a renovation and is closing the north wing Oct. 1st, it looks like CRV is a slam dunk. Will VAKL and DL follow?

 

[druidia]

That's what I was thinking ... I can't imagine it would be more than VB considering VB has hurricanes and beach erosion to deal with ... unless they're going to stick all CRV owners with the brunt of the Monorail costs ...

That is precisely what the DVC guide told us. CRV owners would be expected to share in the Monorail expense, hence the high maintenance fees.

Of course, as so many people have inferred, even the guides don't always have correct information. For all we know, they were jerking my chain. All we know is what we were told, and we didn't have to ask much; they freely gave the info.

 

[dbm20th]

That is precisely what the DVC guide told us. CRV owners would be expected to share in the Monorail expense, hence the high maintenance fees.

But this doesn't make any sense at all. What monorail cost? There would not be any expansion to the monorail in the CRV plan. Perhaps some more capacity, but that certainly would not merit such a huge difference in costs to the members. No additional track, stations, what have you...

Now, use this information and speak about the STOL project. That would require possibly a new track loop, certainly a new station, and more trains. Now THAT would make sense.

 

[pb4ugo]

In the current Vacation Magic, on the "15" years pictorial review, they mention that fact of making a presence at DL. SO what, is it that big of a deal? I know that they are only selling memberships out there but I have to believe that there is going to be a DVC resort somewhere out there soon!

a california dvc would get a chunck of my $$!

 

[MickeyBabe]

Hmmm I thought I read here on the boards that DVC cannot build in California due to provisions in California Timeshare law. Something about actual owership of property rather than "Right to use". Anyone else remember that?

That is not to say they couldn't get around that by creating a resort containing DVC like accomodations that members could use in much the same way we can convert points to stay at other Disney Hotels.

I find it odd that some Guides openly discuss rumors as though they were based in fact and others refuse to discuss rumors as though they were "secrets" You would think that the company/management itself would want them all on the same page.

Interesting...we just took the tour at SS yesterday and our guide as much as confirmed that CRV is a done deal.

It sounds like making the sale was more important to this guide than accuracy and don't you think that opens the door for complaints, problems and possibly legal issues?

 

[druidia]

I will say that we felt a little like they were trying to make the sale. Funny thing is, we didn't bring up CRV, the guide did. We aren't interested in CRV, and told the guide that. I was surprised at how much it was discussed, particularly after what was said on this board regarding the reticence of some CMs when it was brought up to them directly.

The guide did say that it was still unofficial, would not mention the names of the resorts directly, and said that heads were rolling around there after the architecture photos showed up on this board.

It's hard to tell if the info they had was legitimate or not. The guide didn't tell us anything that we hadn't read on this board, other than the speculation about the high CRV maint fees and the "possibility" that VAKL would be announced before CRV.

The guide may just be another member here like anyone else and is using the buzz to help their sales. I say good for them if it works.

 

[keishashadow]

You'd have to put quite a spin on it to justify (existing) monorail costs as a large portion of CRV dues

Would like to think Eagle Pines is a red herring, that most guides mention when pressed for the next best thing.

Don't think they'll let the north bldg. sit empty/under utilized too long, look for some announcement in Oct. to tie in with the new buzz program for WDW

 

[nuts]

Remember folks, DVC has a history of announcing and changing. In fact Disney has this history. As to the Dues being high if CRV is built....yes I can see this for the monorail. Monorail maintenance is not cheap. You pay for the convenience.

 

[dbm20th]

As to the Dues being high if CRV is built....yes I can see this for the monorail. Monorail maintenance is not cheap. You pay for the convenience.

I said it earlier, and I will say it again. What does the monorail have to do with this? The monorail will not chnage in anyway for this propsed CRV resort. The STOL, yes, but not here. I am sorry, but am I the only one that doesn't understand this logic?

 

[pmcpmc]

Preferred Partner. There Is A Marriott Timeshare On Property And Marriott Booths Take The Place Of Dvc Booths.
Could Extend This Relationship Elsewhere

 

[nuts]

I said it earlier, and I will say it again. What does the monorail have to do with this? The monorail will not chnage in anyway for this propsed CRV resort. The STOL, yes, but not here. I am sorry, but am I the only one that doesn't understand this logic?

You are correct in that there is no additional buildout, however, DVC members will have to pay their fair share of the on-going costs (electricity, monorail maintenance, payroll, etc). It doesn't matter that these costs already exist. A portion of these costs will be added to maintenance.

 

[Stitch 03]

I said it earlier, and I will say it again. What does the monorail have to do with this? The monorail will not chnage in anyway for this propsed CRV resort. The STOL, yes, but not here. I am sorry, but am I the only one that doesn't understand this logic?

I understand your logic, but do others? Or at least will they let it stop them from buying into the CRV.

Yes, there are no additional costs to the monorail, but that does not mean that Disney cannot build some monorail costs into the fees. And if this does happen, I do not think sales will be adversely affected.

If they do it; it is because they can.

 

[vonpluto]

I said it earlier, and I will say it again. What does the monorail have to do with this? The monorail will not chnage in anyway for this propsed CRV resort. The STOL, yes, but not here. I am sorry, but am I the only one that doesn't understand this logic?

For your consideration:
I believe that all the resorts at WDW are treated a separate business entities under the Resorts division of WDW. Transportation is another division. All the resorts pay transportation for bus, boat and monorail service.

If I am correct in this, then the Contemporary has a cost for bus, boat and monorail service. What ever percentage of this is currently assigned to the North Wing, would most likely be have to be made up by a new DVC section.

This is only a possibility.

 

[Monte Cristo]

This reminds me of the Seinfeld episode where they are all taking a taxi and George wants to ride for free.....cause 'your going that way anyway.'

 

[keishashadow]

For your consideration:
I believe that all the resorts at WDW are treated a separate business entities under the Resorts division of WDW. Transportation is another division. All the resorts pay transportation for bus, boat and monorail service.

If I am correct in this, then the Contemporary has a cost for bus, boat and monorail service. What ever percentage of this is currently assigned to the North Wing, would most likely be have to be made up by a new DVC section.

This is only a possibility.

Cannot imagine that the contemporary resort (along w/Poly & GF) bear ALL the monorail costs since quite a few non-resort guests use it daily.

Would think the transportation line item for a DVC property would certainly be prorated as to % of CR's existing/standard yearly costs of ALL current transportation.

Would like to think this won't be a money maker for DVC & that they'll have the facts to back up any extraordinary line items if challenged by membership.

 

[John VN]

A very long time ago I posted, and I'm sure some people remember....

Take it from me

You will see

A monorail

DVC

Just can't figure why some people don't believe me.

 

[keishashadow]

A very long time ago I posted, and I'm sure some people remember....

Take it from me

You will see

A monorail

DVC

Just can't figure why some people don't believe me.

You seem to have good judgement based on your tags , don't steer us wrong...
I believe in the power of cheesecake ( & pixie dust too).

 

[BEACHCLUBVILLAS]

A very long time ago I posted, and I'm sure some people remember....

Take it from me

You will see

A monorail

DVC

Just can't figure why some people don't believe me.

Just so I'm clear, would a CRV DVC resort fit the bill as a Monorail DVC or are you talking about an entirely new location?

Both would be nice.