Has the biggest loser gone too far?

But, many people watching, especially young people don't get the difference between reality and reality TV.

But that isn't the shows issues to teach healthy lifestyles. Look at the bachelor.... Is that the way the majority finds partners in life? Nope. It is meant for our entertainment NOT for the stars.
 
No on the first question. She's a young woman who looks nowhere near her age now, in my opinion. If someone said she was late thirties, I wouldn't be remotely shocked. And I didn't think she was *floppy*, as you say, as many become after rapid weight loss. Why didn't that happen to her? Because even though she was obese to start, her body probably kept some of her fitness and she's young.

So no. She had deep lines that women have decades later. That says too much to me.

I am around a lot of athletes. And a few who exercise excessively (unlike professional athletes that have people monitoring their body/nutrition levels), and are very strict about eating low fat, have that look even if they didn't lose a great deal of weight. So her look wasn't about the huge/rapid weight loss in itself, in my opinion. Heck, there are a few weight loss doctors that have that look.

Look at Bobby. He's young too, although not as young as Rachel. He didn't have that look at all in his face, despite rapid loss.

I've looked at multiple photos on the internet - and I think it was a set-up. She has really harsh lighting on her in most of the photos, and the angle of the lighting is really bad. Maybe they do that so the fatter people look thinner on TV, but it made the thin one look gaunt?

Then I found one comparison shot that made her look normal. The lighting was centered, and at an appropriate angle. There was loose skin visible on her upper arms (she needs to do some more push-ups) but her thighs were full, and her calves were toned. Her face did not look hollow, and she had hips.

I have no idea who 'Bobby' is, as I don't follow the show. Once in a while I tune in during a commercial break on another channel. But as I stated before, I never saw anyone on the show who had a normal body weight at the end, so of course they don't look 'gaunt' - they are still overweight and the show has lighting to make them look good. The producers wouldn't want them to still look extremely overweight at the end, would they?
 
I couldn't believe when I saw that she'd won. I thought for sure she wouldn't because she was so close to an appropriate goal weight by the triathalon that she just couldn't put up a big number for the finale, and I'm really disappointed that she did. I liked her all season because I identified with her - I was a promising swimmer too before I gave up my senior season and any hope of going further for a boy, and like her I was no 100lb waif even at my lightest/healthiest. I really, really wanted to see her say "To hell with it" at the final and own the fact that she is a stunning, athletic woman at 140ish rather than putting the money above her health, but with her competitive streak I suppose it makes sense that she'd do anything to win. I just can't wrap my mind around spending months getting healthy just to throw all that muscle building and toning away by going to the other extreme.
 
I've looked at multiple photos on the internet - and I think it was a set-up. She has really harsh lighting on her in most of the photos, and the angle of the lighting is really bad. Maybe they do that so the fatter people look thinner on TV, but it made the thin one look gaunt? Then I found one comparison shot that made her look normal. The lighting was centered, and at an appropriate angle. There was loose skin visible on her upper arms (she needs to do some more push-ups) but her thighs were full, and her calves were toned. Her face did not look hollow, and she had hips. I have no idea who 'Bobby' is, as I don't follow the show. Once in a while I tune in during a commercial break on another channel. But as I stated before, I never saw anyone on the show who had a normal body weight at the end, so of course they don't look 'gaunt' - they are still overweight and the show has lighting to make them look good. The producers wouldn't want them to still look extremely overweight at the end, would they?

None of the 3 finalists last night were still overweight.
 

I couldn't believe when I saw that she'd won. I thought for sure she wouldn't because she was so close to an appropriate goal weight by the triathalon that she just couldn't put up a big number for the finale, and I'm really disappointed that she did. I liked her all season because I identified with her - I was a promising swimmer too before I gave up my senior season and any hope of going further for a boy, and like her I was no 100lb waif even at my lightest/healthiest. I really, really wanted to see her say "To hell with it" at the final and own the fact that she is a stunning, athletic woman at 140ish rather than putting the money above her health, but with her competitive streak I suppose it makes sense that she'd do anything to win. I just can't wrap my mind around spending months getting healthy just to throw all that muscle building and toning away by going to the other extreme.


They are judged on TOTAL weight loss from start to finish, not on how much they lose after they leave the ranch.
 
I guess those that think Rachel looked "great" "healthy" and "amazing" must have thought the same thing about Karen Carpenter.

The resemble is uncanny, even in the lines on their faces...:sad1:
 
I guess those that think Rachel looked "great" "healthy" and "amazing" must have thought the same thing about Karen Carpenter.

The resemble is uncanny, even in the lines on their faces...:sad1:

I was thinking the same thing.
 
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They are judged on TOTAL weight loss from start to finish, not on how much they lose after they leave the ranch.

I get that. But she didn't need to lose as much as either of the men, so she needed a big loss beyond what she'd done at the ranch to win even though she left the ranch looking very fit and healthy. She needed a big number for the finale because she needed to "keep up" with two men who started out needing to lose a much higher percentage of their body weight than she did. I didn't think she had enough to lose to get there, and I still don't even though she found a way. A 105lb size 0 isn't right for her body; 150 and size 6 (makeover week) looked great on her.
 
I've looked at multiple photos on the internet - and I think it was a set-up. She has really harsh lighting on her in most of the photos, and the angle of the lighting is really bad. Maybe they do that so the fatter people look thinner on TV, but it made the thin one look gaunt?

Then I found one comparison shot that made her look normal. The lighting was centered, and at an appropriate angle. There was loose skin visible on her upper arms (she needs to do some more push-ups) but her thighs were full, and her calves were toned. Her face did not look hollow, and she had hips.

I have no idea who 'Bobby' is, as I don't follow the show. Once in a while I tune in during a commercial break on another channel. But as I stated before, I never saw anyone on the show who had a normal body weight at the end, so of course they don't look 'gaunt' - they are still overweight and the show has lighting to make them look good. The producers wouldn't want them to still look extremely overweight at the end, would they?

You haven't watched the show much or don't have an accurate idea of what a normal body weight is.
 
I have no idea who 'Bobby' is, as I don't follow the show. Once in a while I tune in during a commercial break on another channel. But as I stated before, I never saw anyone on the show who had a normal body weight at the end, so of course they don't look 'gaunt' - they are still overweight and the show has lighting to make them look good. The producers wouldn't want them to still look extremely overweight at the end, would they?

This is the first season I've watched all the way through so maybe you're right about past finalists, but just going by this year I have to wonder what is wrong with our standard of normal if the finalists still don't meet the standard of normal weight. Rachel was a size 6 when she left the ranch. That's "still overweight"? :confused3
 
I am not a doctor so I don't know but I am obsessed with my 600 pound life and many of them lose that much or more in a 6 month period. All are under the care of doctor and are encouraged to do so.


Um... really? They have over 400lbs to lose. It's natural and healthy for it to fall off much more quickly than someone with 150 to lose.

I've looked at multiple photos on the internet - and I think it was a set-up. She has really harsh lighting on her in most of the photos, and the angle of the lighting is really bad. Maybe they do that so the fatter people look thinner on TV, but it made the thin one look gaunt?

Then I found one comparison shot that made her look normal. The lighting was centered, and at an appropriate angle. There was loose skin visible on her upper arms (she needs to do some more push-ups) but her thighs were full, and her calves were toned. Her face did not look hollow, and she had hips.

I have no idea who 'Bobby' is, as I don't follow the show. Once in a while I tune in during a commercial break on another channel. But as I stated before, I never saw anyone on the show who had a normal body weight at the end, so of course they don't look 'gaunt' - they are still overweight and the show has lighting to make them look good. The producers wouldn't want them to still look extremely overweight at the end, would they?

Your words scare the heck out of me. YOU are the one who doesn't have a realistic view of a healthy body. Anyone here who thinks you're MORE healthy when you have zero extra fat is woefully mistaken. :sad2:
 
I follow them both on Twitter and Instagram and their accounts were overloaded with "What are your thoughts on Rachel?" and "When are you going to make a statement?" I think they handled it well. A lot of commenters were saying that they were throwing Dolvet under the bus. I don't really see it that way. But then again, I don't really know the dynamics between the three of them. It could have been a slam but who knows.

I'm interested to see if NBC issues any sort of statement. Rachel was on the Today show this morning and they were all saying how great she looked. But I can't imagine them saying "hey congrats but you look anorexic."

The female anchors on the Today show are tiny.

I will say that I saw one article where she claimed to be a size 0/2. I think she really must be smaller than that. She also said she limited her calories to 1,600 per day and took four exercise classes. That's crazy!!!

I really do hope that she gains a little back now.
 
Doesn't Jillian's reaction, both live last night and on FB today, undercut the "trick of lighting" argument?
 
This is the first season I've watched all the way through so maybe you're right about past finalists, but just going by this year I have to wonder what is wrong with our standard of normal if the finalists still don't meet the standard of normal weight. Rachel was a size 6 when she left the ranch. That's "still overweight"? :confused3

Today's size six is not a real '6' - you do know that they added inches to each standard size? A six is really more like a size 10 in the 'old days'. I used to wear a 7 thirty years ago. Now I wear a 3, and I weigh 10 lbs more now. I have an old dress that is a women's 6, and it measures as a 2 today.

I guess I just don't see weight the same as the rest of you. I don't have any eating issues, I just see deposited fat as a bad thing. It puts a strain on your organs and raises your chances of getting cancer. We are not a species that hibernates or migrates, so there is no need for a store of fat to make it through a long winter.
 
Today's size six is not a real '6' - you do know that they added inches to each standard size? A six is really more like a size 10 in the 'old days'. I used to wear a 7 thirty years ago. Now I wear a 3, and I weigh 10 lbs more now. I have an old dress that is a women's 6, and it measures as a 2 today.

I guess I just don't see weight the same as the rest of you. I don't have any eating issues, I just see deposited fat as a bad thing. It puts a strain on your organs and raises your chances of getting cancer. We are not a species that hibernates or migrates, so there is no need for a store of fat to make it through a long winter.


Women need fat to ovulate and have a menstrual cycle. That is why, according to doctors, the optimal amount of body fat for a healthy woman is between 19 and 24.9 percent. This is reality. Unfortunately, the stick figure images we see in fashion magazines and on TV have led us to believe we should have less body fat than that. And, most of those stick figures no longer menstruate. They are NOT healthy, pure and simple.

Did you know that adolescents as young as 6, 7 and 8 have anorexia? And think they need a "thigh gap?" Where do they get those notions? Hmmm?
 
Today's size six is not a real '6' - you do know that they added inches to each standard size? A six is really more like a size 10 in the 'old days'. I used to wear a 7 thirty years ago. Now I wear a 3, and I weigh 10 lbs more now. I have an old dress that is a women's 6, and it measures as a 2 today.

I guess I just don't see weight the same as the rest of you. I don't have any eating issues, I just see deposited fat as a bad thing. It puts a strain on your organs and raises your chances of getting cancer. We are not a species that hibernates or migrates, so there is no need for a store of fat to make it through a long winter.

Whether a 6 is still a 6 or a 0 is still a 0 or who weighs what number---NONE of it matters when you look at that woman.

It wasn't a trick of lighting when you saw the reaction of Jillian and what's his name.

Do you also see Jillian as fat? Because she has much more meat on her bones than this girl does.

Yes, too much fat does the things you are describing, too little body fat can cause problems too. I sincerely hope you are defending this girl and not yourself.

And, not that it really matters, but sizes are different from style to style, store to store, designer to designer. DD wears a 3 in some stores and a 5 in others. She tried on the dress I wore when I married her father 26 years ago; it is a 3. It fit. So, the added inches doesn't hold true for every make of clothing,
 
Today's size six is not a real '6' - you do know that they added inches to each standard size? A six is really more like a size 10 in the 'old days'. I used to wear a 7 thirty years ago. Now I wear a 3, and I weigh 10 lbs more now. I have an old dress that is a women's 6, and it measures as a 2 today.

I guess I just don't see weight the same as the rest of you. I don't have any eating issues, I just see deposited fat as a bad thing. It puts a strain on your organs and raises your chances of getting cancer. We are not a species that hibernates or migrates, so there is no need for a store of fat to make it through a long winter.

Not a real 6? A 6 is a 6. Do you have some specific measurements and dimensions that define a size that you are referring to?
 

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