Has ANYONE gotten a corral change for marathon?

[Cruz91]

I was 12 hours late submitting proof of time, so I'm stuck in the LAST corral with an anticipated pace of 11:30. I've talked to everyone, no luck changing. Has anyone gotten it? It truly is a safety concern for me. I don't want to be weaving around 3000 people or more!

 

[weatherboy80]

Nope, sounds like you are stuck with me who also did not submit proof of time before the deadline.

 

[goofeygirl]

I know someone who does half marathons in about 2 hours and he stuck right near the back...I don't think he has ever been to the back of a coral before.

 

[cewait]

This is the first race that runD is not offering expo corral revisions. The issue was that too many folks were gaming the system at the expo.

Sorry

 

[CaptHomer]

I was 12 hours late submitting proof of time, so I'm stuck in the LAST corral with an anticipated pace of 11:30. I've talked to everyone, no luck changing. Has anyone gotten it? It truly is a safety concern for me. I don't want to be weaving around 3000 people or more!

Like Coach said, you are stuck. Make a game out of it. Do "The Last Man Standing Challenge" and start at the very back, the last person. See how many people you can pass. You can check the results afterwards for an official count.
Maybe you can raise money for charity or something, so much money for the number of people you pass.

 

[bumbershoot]

This is the first race that runD is not offering expo corral revisions. The issue was that too many folks were gaming the system at the expo.

Sorry

Now that the expo-changing is over, how do you game the system by submitting a time at the expo? When I submitted my 10K time at the TOT expo (had to be then because I hadn't even run 10K when I signed up for the TOT, and the 10K was not even a month before TOT) it seemed pretty straightforward. Handed over the paper with the race info and my results, the girl decided what corral I would be in. Didn't seem to be any room for being sneaky!

 

[cewait]

Now that the expo-changing is over, how do you game the system by submitting a time at the expo? When I submitted my 10K time at the TOT expo (had to be then because I hadn't even run 10K when I signed up for the TOT, and the 10K was not even a month before TOT) it seemed pretty straightforward. Handed over the paper with the race info and my results, the girl decided what corral I would be in. Didn't seem to be any room for being sneaky!

You could have very easily made your time 10 minutes faster by recreating results in a spreadsheet, printing and handing it in. For the marathon there was a line during peak times so the pressure was on the person re-assigning to clear you out.

 

[bumbershoot]

You could have very easily made your time 10 minutes faster by recreating results in a spreadsheet, printing and handing it in.

And here I printed out nearly every page from the 10k's website, including the course map, just in case they needed that and to prove that it was a real race/site/printout. (even though you guys told me it wasn't needed)

 

[thebwit]

People were creating fake proof of times and bringing them with. Sometimes even for fake races!

As for moving up in corrals, the only people who will be able to move up are those who paid for the Runners World Challenge from what I have heard as they were to get "preferred corral placement" whatever that means.

 

[paxsarah]

People were creating fake proof of times and bringing them with. Sometimes even for fake races!

As for moving up in corrals, the only people who will be able to move up are those who paid for the Runners World Challenge from what I have heard as they were to get "preferred corral placement" whatever that means.

And I presume that isn't moving up at the expo, but that their bib number and corresponding corral placement are already set.

 

[bumbershoot]

People were creating fake proof of times and bringing them with. Sometimes even for fake races!

Isn't that something? What people will do...

 

[paxsarah]

Isn't that something? What people will do...

Moving off-topic, but if you're really interested in what someone will do: http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2012/08/06/120806fa_fact_singer?currentPage=all

 

[bumbershoot]

Moving off-topic, but if you're really interested in what someone will do: http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2012/08/06/120806fa_fact_singer?currentPage=all

I can't even imagine. Wow. As they said in the article "Think about how hard you have to work to not run a race.” All that energy could have been used in such different ways.

And this, absolutely. "This was what Litton was missing: the bonhomie and collective uplift of one of the world’s great athletic events, and the rewards that come to anyone who goes the full distance and crosses the finish line—never mind how long it takes. "

Even an even that isn't the world's greatest. Even just a local, little run. It's all so cool to have trained, tried, and hopefully finished.

Maybe someday they'll figure out how he did it.

Thank you for linking to that. It was very interesting. In reading I realized that recently someone here suggested counting the number of people passed from the back of a corral and doing something for charity...that was mentioned in that article! Weird! Guess they'd read the article.

 

[Cruz91]

So here's the "Paul Harvey". I had a local half I couldn't run for irrelevant reasons. A buddy ran that at a sub-6 minute pace. "I" got a plack for being 2nd in my division. I could have taken that time and gotten an awesome placement, but I did the right thing and ran another half (the time I turned in late). Then run Disney were *****. So what did I do now? I bought someone else's bib in a MUCH better corral. In the end, all Run Disney did is cost me an extra $140. I'll still be in a good corral, and they're *******s.

 

[cewait]

So here's the "Paul Harvey". I had a local half I couldn't run for irrelevant reasons. A buddy ran that at a sub-6 minute pace. "I" got a plack for being 2nd in my division. I could have taken that time and gotten an awesome placement, but I did the right thing and ran another half (the time I turned in late). Then run Disney were *****. So what did I do now? I bought someone else's bib in a MUCH better corral. In the end, all Run Disney did is cost me an extra $140. I'll still be in a good corral, and they're *******s.

Actually, you cost you an extra $140. I for one applaud Disney for setting rules then actually following them.

Again, sorry you were caught up in a 12 hour mistake but the date was out there for all to see for the better part of 6 months.

 

[Cruz91]

Sorry, coach, I disagree 100%. The notice was on the website, but I got ZERO emails about it. If they have a deadline that rigid, they can send a freaking email. ALL of their notifications were passive (on their website, on their Facebook page). There was NO notice that was active (email out or text, both of which I have received from RunDisney for other purposes). Couple that with the fact that their policy is much different from most other races (who allow changes at the expos). You're right about a lot - but I'm not with you at all on this issue.

 

[Cruz91]

In addition, Disney as a rule is not hard line about anything else, so they have conditioned people to expect leeway in extraordinary circumstances. Example - if I'm late to a fastpass or even fast pass plus because I was stuck at a long dinner at Be Our Guest, they bend their own rule. I've done it - just this past Thanksgiving. The start corral placement is such a critical part of a runner's experience that, if they're going to be unyielding about it, the onus is on them to make it clear - ACTIVELY. They did not. RunDisney is the worst organizing group I've ever seen. I go because I love the event IN SPITE OF them, not BECAUSE OF them.

 

[DoctorK]

Sorry, coach, I disagree 100%. The notice was on the website, but I got ZERO emails about it.

It was stated plainly in the confirmation e-mail you received the day you registered:

PROOF OF TIME
If you did not provide proof of time at the point of registration or acquire it after you have registered, then email this information to disneysports@trackshack.com before November 1, 2013 to have your start corral placement changed. If you listed a race result as proof of time when registering online, then you do not have to do anything further. No corral changes will be made after November 1, 2013 You will no longer be able to bring proof of your estimated finish time to the Runner Relations booth during the Expo and have your start corral placement changed.

 

[Cruz91]

Wow, you are 100% right! That section exists 2/3 of the way down on my confirmation email, after advertisements for pasta in the park and a few other items! So it IS 100% my fault.

In other news, I have gotten 79 emails from Disney since that registration email, including 7 from RunDisney (yes, I counted). I can't find the same text in any of them. Good on you, RunDisney, for burying the notice in the email far enough down for me to miss. Regardless, it cost me a few extra bucks, but I'll get what I want (and worked for).

 

[bumbershoot]

In other news, I have gotten 79 emails from Disney since that registration email, including 7 from RunDisney (yes, I counted).

Have you gotten 7? I've gotten, like, 2 apart from the receipts each time I've added something else to the marathon weekend. (5K for me, 5K for DS, Mickey Mile for him, Half for me, Mickey ears for him, pins for both of us, race retreat for me...those have all generated emails...but I believe 2 Marathon weekend informational ones, and I might be counting one for TOT in there by accident.

They don't count on emails to communicate because I think they know how rotten their email systems are. Just like their computer systems. Poor Disney, so broke they can't afford good IT people...