has any wdw ship ever tipped over

[banannaman]

has any wdw ships ever tipped over could a ship that size tipp over in ruff water

 

[ivanova]

are you talking about a cruise line ship? or one of the ferry boat type boats in WDW??

 

[goingbacksoon]

One would imagine any capsized cruise vessel would make national headlines. I haven't heard of one recently, within the last 10 years.

With all the GPS, radar, and comm gear they have on there, I doubt they'd get close enough to encounter seas THAT rough. 87,000 tons is hard enough to move anyways.

goingbacksoon

 

[avgeek]

Go rent "The Poseidon Adventure". All your worst cruising fears in one movie.

Personally, I can't see it happening with current technology (see previous posts). It was kinda cool to see the hull plane from our verandah when the boat left port - it's a wing on each side of the hull that runs underwater and helps stabilize the boat. Very cool.

-D

 

[IrishCowboy]

Does the Banana Boat on castaway Cay count??

 

[dianthus]

Yes, it has...

Those toy replicas of the Magic in the bathtub are really hard to control! LOL!

If it didn't tip over on the 4/17 voyage, it's not going to... 20 ft. waves/ seas pounding the ship for 2 days... We thought it was fun, but most traveling on this cruise with us didn't think so!

 

[Horace Horsecollar]

A large ship can tip over if you pump enough water into it.

The SS Normandie -- a ship with dimensions similar to DCL ships -- capsized in 1942, after a devastating fire and the efforts to extiguish it. See http://www.ocean-liners.com/ships/normandie.asp

The original RMS Queen Elizabeth suffered a similar fate in 1972. See http://www.cruiseserver.net/travelpage/ships/cu_qe.asp

Of course, ship design and fire suppression have improved greatly since the Normandie was launched in 1932 and the Queen Elizabeth in 1940.

 

[seaulater]

Last year on the Cruise Critic site there was an article posted of one of the RCCL ships (I think) that got hit by a huge wave and the ship tilted a huge percentage and many things were broken and people went flying. However, with the stabilizers now, pretty impossible.

Nice to know I have that lovely PFD to wear in case of emergency!

 

[Greysword]

LOL!! Under the pictures of the QE having flipped, there are some lovely adds for you to book your own cruise! hehehe, I don't think the selling point to very solid on that page

As for rolling over, anything is possible, but the ships are built to handle huge degrees of roll, so I would not worry about it. If they were having any trouble, the captain could flood lower decks to make her more stable (but that would have to be massively bad bad bad...

 

[GenieDana]

The RCCL ship experienced a stabilizer "abnomality." That combined with extreme rudder inputs (or azipod inputs) can induce an abrupt and significant roll.

During sea trials, the stabilizers are used to "simulate" rough seas during manuevers. The idea during sea trials is to stress the equipment to design extremes to determine handling characteristics, equipment performance, human performace, balasting requirements, etc.

Could the Magic capsize - absolutely (even in calm seas!). Is it likeley, absolutely not. Horace said it - FIRE is what you should worry about. Think about it (toxic smoke in enclosed spaces, oxygen consumption, ect.), gets ugly very quickly. That is why DCL has NO SMOKING in cabins, no ironing in cabins, and even no popcorn poppers on board.

 

[jrabbit]

Horace said it - FIRE is what you should worry about. Think about it (toxic smoke in enclosed spaces, oxygen consumption, ect.), gets ugly very quickly. That is why DCL has NO SMOKING in cabins, no ironing in cabins, and even no popcorn poppers on board.

And in the kitchens, they cook with steam.

Someone posted in 2002 or 2003 that they were on one of the ships (Magic or Wonder - I don't remember which) and that the ship suddenly and violently pitched way, way, way over. I think it was attributed to "a rudder abnormally". Hopefully someone else remembers and can fill in this story.

 

[SweetSpot]

When we were on our Nov 2002 DCL cruise we came close to tipping over while pulling into Castaway Cay. We tipped about 90 degrees. We were on deck 8 and had water from the pools pouring past our verandah. We were told by CM's that a couple people were banged up and they lost a lot of plates, etc. It was caused by human error not waves or weather.

 

[GenieDana]

9 degrees, but not 90 degrees, or seawater would have been rushing into your cabin (the ship would have been completely on its side).

The ship does not have to list very much for pools to spill however.

I wonder how much the ship has ever listed during a passenger cruise? Maybe Mickey Morgan knows?

 

[SweetSpot]

I believe this was the most the ship ever listed. It happened fast, we lost our footing in the cabin and my DH who was standing on the verandah was quite shaken seeing the sea coming up to him. It was a rather large human error and a very close call. The Captain finally admitted to the error as we were pulling out of Castaway Cay on the ship speakers. I'm sure there are others who remember, I know I won't forget.

 

[psimon]

I, too, was on the cruise in Nov '02. It was an interesting feeling watching the ocean approach my window and I was on deck 6!

Makes you wonder what was going on in the bridge at the time. Sure did get my attention.

----Paul in Southern NJ

 

[SweetSpot]

I went and searched this is a link describing the incident:

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?threadid=289391&highlight=+rudder

 

[jgalecpa]

As a kid about 10 we sailed on the MS Europa to England from New York.

What was supposed to be a 6 day trip took eight since we hit/skirted a major hurricane in the North Atlantic .

there were huge waves hitting our porthole six decks up routinely.

From the observation deck, the ships bow would go completely underwater, then come back out, everytime.

I can't imagine much worse weather. And that ship, much smaller than the DCL are 35 years later, weathered it no problem.

Jim

 

[justmestace]

I think it happens all the time, they just do a great job of covering it up so that no one finds out!

 

[lUVTOGO]

Originally posted by SweetSpot
When we were on our Nov 2002 DCL cruise we came close to tipping over while pulling into Castaway Cay. We tipped about 90 degrees. We were on deck 8 and had water from the pools pouring past our verandah. We were told by CM's that a couple people were banged up and they lost a lot of plates, etc. It was caused by human error not waves or weather.

Yes Sweetspot, we remember that morning well! Actually we were having breakfast in Luminiers, when suddenly our plates ended up in our laps, and dishes were crashing back by the serving station. You couldn't see the water anymore out of the huge porthole windows. It WAS a little scary! Even the waiters were shaken up!

 

[linda8892]

Here is a story about the NCL's Pride of America which apparently was kept very quiet.




PRIDE OF AMERICA NEWS UPDATES
Miami, Fla., January 14, 2004 - Lloyd Werft has informed Norwegian Cruise Line that at approximately 12:30 a.m. in Germany in stormy weather with high winds, Pride of America took on water up to deck three and experienced a list of approximately 15 degrees. The ship, which is under construction and docked at the shipyard, is resting on the bottom and is now secure.

The ship should be refloated in the next few days. Until this refloating has taken place, Lloyd Werft will not be able to assess the extent of the damage or any potential delay in the delivery schedule. NCL will provide updates as soon as further information is available.