Hard to pass on such good incentives

[theMoreDisneytheBetter]

Unfortunately I have recently caught add-on-itis right as VGF2 pricing was released. We are primarily a BC family, but enjoy hotel hopping in very nice rooms (AK 3BD, CC 3BD, Bungalows, etc, for a few days). We have never stayed at the GF though I am inclined to try it sometime, and are somewhat indifferent to BLT. I have no interest in Riviera given that it is not walkable to any park. We don't really care to walk into Disney Springs so that nixes SSR and OKW.

My issue now is that I'm seriously tempted by VGF2 pricing and the prospect of owning a MK resort on the monorail, but I don't know if we would ever want to stay at the resort on a consistent basis, so that's an awful lot of money for SAP. I'm not buying any more BC points due to 2042 expry (and we have plenty). I'm thinking about buying more at AK, but I also feel stupid paying full price for AK points when VGF2 points with incentives are basically the same cost. CC and Poly are even more expensive.

The rest of my family DOES NOT want to buy resale despite great pricing.

I know AK had ok incentives in winter, which we missed. How likely is it that they will come back? If we are really just looking for SAP is that a reasonable way to go given that we can make 11 month reservations and then upgrade if something "better" is available at 7 months? We typically travel in winter (November-January) but NOT over Thanksgiving or Christmas breaks. 7 month availability seems to be getting more difficult, even for expensive properties, but it may just be my perception. We would like to purchase before the end of the year so we have time, but I don't want a great deal to pass us by.

Thanks!

 

[wnielsen1]

VGF2 is a solid choice for direct SAP. You would get 7 more years over AKV and dues at VGF will likely remain cheaper. I am not a VGF fan at all and I am considering adding on there.

 

[theMoreDisneytheBetter]

I think the difference between AK and VGF2 is that I could use AK points to book an 11 month reservation and switch at 7 if something else where available, whereas with VGF2 we wouldn't necessarily want that 11 month advantage. We already own enough points at AK to consistently book a few nights in a 2BD but not enough to consistently book a 3BD.

Who knows...unfortunately we don't have a trip on the calendar to stay at the GF before the "best" round of incentives expires!

I definitely understand the fear of missing out.

 

[larry47591]

I think the difference between AK and VGF2 is that I could use AK points to book an 11 month reservation and switch at 7 if something else where available, whereas with VGF2 we wouldn't necessarily want that 11 month advantage. We already own enough points at AK to consistently book a few nights in a 2BD but not enough to consistently book a 3BD.

Who knows...unfortunately we don't have a trip on the calendar to stay at the GF before the "best" round of incentives expires!

I definitely understand the fear of missing out.

Is there a reason they don’t want to do resale?

 

[theMoreDisneytheBetter]

With multiple UY and home resorts they think our situation is complicated enough without adding additional restrictions on how points are used.

 

[larry47591]

With multiple UY and home resorts they think our situation is complicated enough without adding additional restrictions on how points are used.

I get it if you want to stay at Rivera but you have other points for that. Other wise you could save a good chunk. The wait is pain full but it can be worth it.

 

[RoseGold]

I think there’s a good math argument to sell the legacy and buy VGF2 as SAP. I made it for myself with spreadsheets.

But there are a lot of Disney changes and more seem to keep coming. I might be completely out soon. Since that’s on the table, I’m just holding what I have.

 

[theMoreDisneytheBetter]

In our situation which legacy contract would you sell? BC we use for 11m so we won't be selling that one, AK we use for 11m and SAP, and OKW are super cheap SAP. Wouldn't it cost us to switch from SAP OKW to SAP VGF2 if we aren't using VGF2 as a home resort ($179 for 300+pts - call it $110 after expenses for OKW less whatever capital gains we need to pay)? Or do you think the value of the extra years makes the $70+ cost attractive?

Hmmm...something new to consider....

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

With multiple UY and home resorts they think our situation is complicated enough without adding additional restrictions on how points are used.

It sounds like you have the resorts that you most like to stay at? If none of them are Riviera then there is nothing complicating about resale points. If you do want to stay at Riviera then you use you use your BCV/OKW/AKV which sound like they are qualified.

For the times you want to travel I'd at least make certain the SAP's are at a location you at least like to stay.

 

[dvc lover 1970]

Too much of a hastle to sell your other contracts to buy VGF2 for SAP. Buy VGF only if you want to use it there for 11 month window. If buying AKV - buy resale and save. If direct then I would buy VGF2

 

[JoeyPeligroso]

I purchased direct VGF2 points for both SAP and location 2 days ago.

I have stayed at Grand Floridian and I like the location and the resort itself. However, it might be very difficult to purchase direct points at place where you are not sure that you might wish to stay.

For me, being “stuck“ with Grand Floridian if I am unable to use my points at another resort doesn’t seem like any punishment at all! And that was part of my logic in making my purchase. For this reason I made my own term for my purchase: GFSAP

Though it is hard to resist the fear of missing out on this deal, it might help to look at your typical vacation point needs and your total vacation points now as you consider whether or not you want to have more direct points. I certainly did want more points and the math and location worked in my favor for this direct purchase. Timing therefore was right.

 

[stwaldman]

VGF is a good deal right now relative to anybody who wanted VGF points for the last several years, but it's not some crazy bargain for SAPs, it's just a fair price (especially if dues remain good compared to some other resorts). And the prices of AKV and VGF aren't really the same, because the point charts are so skewed. You are going to need more VGF points to make a stay worthwhile if you ever do one.

If you have little/no plans to use VGF at 11 months, I would think go grab points somewhere you might, even if you're only using that advantage on rare occasions. If your multiple resort situation is already a headache, I just struggle to think adding one helps a ton. And there are limited big ticket rooms at VGF with 2M more points about to be sold (the type you seem to be staying in), so you might actually have to be more committed to booking those further out.

 

[RoseGold]

IMO VGF2 is a better choice for SAP if your DVC plan involves selling or renting out points. I would much rather be selling/renting VGF than RIV or OKW in 10 years.

 

[JoeyPeligroso]

VGF is a good deal right now relative to anybody who wanted VGF points for the last several years, but it's not some crazy bargain for SAPs, it's just a fair price (especially if dues remain good compared to some other resorts). And the prices of AKV and VGF aren't really the same, because the point charts are so skewed. You are going to need more VGF points to make a stay worthwhile if you ever do one.

If you have little/no plans to use VGF at 11 months, I would think go grab points somewhere you might, even if you're only using that advantage on rare occasions. If your multiple resort situation is already a headache, I just struggle to think adding one helps a ton. And there are limited big ticket rooms at VGF with 2M more points about to be sold (the type you seem to be staying in), so you might actually have to be more committed to booking those further out.

I agree, this is absolutely not a crazy bargain.

I think that any DVC purchase has to make good sense to the person that is making the choice to buy.

 

[JoeyPeligroso]

IMO VGF2 is a better choice for SAP if your DVC plan involves selling or renting out points. I would much rather be selling/renting VGF than RIV or OKW in 10 years.

Indeed, absolutely agree with these thoughts.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

VGF2 is a solid choice for direct SAP. You would get 7 more years over AKV and dues at VGF will likely remain cheaper. I am not a VGF fan at all and I am considering adding on there.

I've considered that same thing, but the BLT incentives make me hold out hope that we might see a similar crazy discount at a resort I prefer, like AKV, OKW, or even Copper Creek or the Poly.

 

[RoseGold]

I've considered that same thing, but the BLT incentives make me hold out hope that we might see a similar crazy discount at a resort I prefer, like AKV, OKW, or even Copper Creek or the Poly.

I agree Poly is due for some incentives. But now that there are a lot of VGF points to sell, it might take a while for that to show up.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

I agree Poly is due for some incentives. But now that there are a lot of VGF points to sell, it might take a while for that to show up.

I think one of the cheaper resorts is more likely than the Poly, given recent ROFR activity.

I forget the term that the guides use (drop product? drop-down product?), but they typically like having something relatively inexpensive available behind whatever flagship they're currently selling. I think Aulani will be the default once DLT goes on sale, but I could also see one of the classic OKW/SSR/AKV trilogy selling well in the shadow of VGF2 and whatever's left of RIV.

 

[SleeplessInTO]

I would love some cheap OKW direct points. There’s just something about that resort which makes me all calm and happy. Olivia’s is delicious and the points required for a GV are mind blowingly low. Time to start saving up for an OKW buy haha.

 

[theMoreDisneytheBetter]

Clearly life is stressful at the moment because I'm still thinking about points. If we *wanted* to stay in a 2BD at GF what's the chance of getting in on a 7 month reservation? We have extended family that *may* want to use points as well. If they do, we need to buy more to still do everything we want to do. If they don't, we will have too many points. My mom thinks we can get away with only 100 additional points, though there aren't any incentives at that level. I'm more inclined to buy 200 to get a flagship property at a mid-tier price, but I haven't figured out how to justify it.