Guilty Ride for Taking Kids Out of School

PandaBear & Boo said:
Why should I have to tell them in advance. So that my kids get bogged down with work to do. This is our vacation our family time. I am not going to worry about whether my kids are writing in their journals or doing whatever other work their teachers gave them. Last time when I pulled them out my daughter was given so much that it just got to be ridiculus. .
"After six hours of school da da da da da today
"da da da radio dial and tune it up all the way [how do you tune a radio up?]
"da da da dance dance"
... as sung by The Beach Boys

Although, as I said earlier, I would have endeavored to have the kids get an early head start, I would not schedule six hours a day for studies down at Disney.
 
I'm in the Toronto area, I am taking DD12 to Disney for a birthday surprise in December - I won't even be telling the school until that morning!

We are at a private school and they take so many days and half days for this and that. Even the first day back was only a half day.. this week my DD is camping with her class in Northern Ontario - this after only 3 1/2 days back at school. They would have to be nuts to complain to me, but we'll see.

I say take your kids out and enjoy being a family, will all this really matter in 5, 10 , 15 20 years? only in a positive way with happy family memories.
 
Your letter sounds perfect! Good luck with everything and I hope you and your family have a wonderful vacation! :sunny:
 
Great Letter!

Short and Sweet and to the point!

Have Fun!
 

Oh, I was also thinkin'....................

They should go back to a full year of teaching since the majority of us no longer work on farms and don't need the children to work the fields!

This would alleviate this problem and also "what the heck to do with them in the summertime!"
 
PandaBear & Boo said:
After some deep thought and over thinking I finally decided that I wasn't going to fill out the form. Instead I wrote the following letter one to my boys vice principal and one to my daughters teacher.

Dear So and So,

This is to notify you that my sons/daughter will be absent from school next week, Sept 25 thru to Sept 28, due to a family vacation. This vacation has been planned since the beginning of the year and I do apologize for the fact that it is during school time, but this is the only time that my husband is able to get his vacation time from work. My sons/daughter will be returning to school on Oct 2. Thanking you in Advance. Sincerely, Me!

So does that sound ok? Thanks to all your posts!

Very interesting post. I also live in Ontario and we have been taking the children out for a week or two each year for family trips since DD started school. DH has a lanscaping/greehouse business and that is the only time it really works for us. Plus my boss' wife is a teacher so they always take off March Break and I take over his position for a week at work. So...
I have never had a teacher say anything negative to me about taking the children out. They are all in elementary school though and do well in school. I do wonder as they get older though! We will see.
We are going away in late October. The children will miss 5 days of school then. I will talk to the teachers about this during the open house next week.

Anyway, for your letter, I would just write.

"Dear Mrs. Smith,
I just wanted to let you know Samantha will not be in school from September 25-September 29. We are going on a family vacation. Because of work responsibilities this is the only time we are able to get away as a family and we are very much looking forward to it. If you have any assignments for Samantha to complete we would be more than happy to work on them with her either during the trip or when we return, whatever you prefer. Thank you for your understanding. If you need to talk to me about this I can be reached at XXX- XXX-XXXX. Thank you for your understanding. Ms. Jones. "

I personally think saying you will not apologize puts you on the defensive.

Deb
P.S. I see in the US some boards really penalize the child for missing days of school and it even comes into not being able to pass the school year. At least Ontario is not like that! Yet!
 
Scratch42 said:
Oh, I was also thinkin'....................

They should go back to a full year of teaching since the majority of us no longer work on farms and don't need the children to work the fields!

This would alleviate this problem and also "what the heck to do with them in the summertime!"
The kids should go back to a full year of learning since the majority of us no longer work on farms and don't need our children to work our fields!

This would alleviate this problem and also "what the heck to do with the kids in the summertime!" :)

Just think, higher SAT scores? (Do Canadian kids all take the same tests U.S. kids take?)
 
sammi said:
Your letter sounds perfect! Good luck with everything and I hope you and your family have a wonderful vacation! :sunny:

Scratch42 said:
Great Letter!

Short and Sweet and to the point!

Have Fun!


Thanks to both of you!
 
It's been so long since I've been in school, that I don't remember what the kids have to take! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

SAT's :confused3

j
 
seashoreCM said:
Just think, higher SAT scores? (Do Canadian kids all take the same tests U.S. kids take?)

No. It's a different system for University entrance.
 
Last year we took our seventh grader out for a week extra over march break, to do Disney before/after a cruise.....I dont regret it at all....however...boy did he pay the price in his grades! (He also missed a week at Christmas due to sickness)

He missed a couple of tests.....and even with make up work....his grades that term were significantly lower. We worked hard the next term, and he ended his year well......

I am now on the other side.....I am doing my internship as a student teacher...and to be honest...we do cover ALOT in a week. It can be several curriculum outcomes....and the assessment of them. It is hard to provide the parents with extra work to make up for that.


Either way.......Make the decision that is best for you....and in the end you will work it out!

I wont have to worry about that again....because now I will only be able to go away on school holidays too!


Sandi
 
I think that it's likely different for High School kids. They have lot's of homework, have lot's of different subjects and it might be harder for them to catch up while they are away...however, if the time that you take vacation can only be while they are in school, then I wouldn't hesitate. We've gone away 3 times in December, and DS missed about 9 days of school in December and we will do it again this year. We ask to bring work with us, but the teachers don;t bother as DS was in JK and SK when we went. I am sure we will get to a point when we won;t go during the school year anymore.
 
Pandabear and Boo, I agree, that must be very frustrating;I think the school board has got to realize that families want to go on vacation during the year. However, I don't think it's up to them to chase the student down and hand them every missed assignment. So as long as your DS can catch up, I wouldn't worry at all!! :thumbsup2 Have a great time!
 
we took our kidss out of school for 1 week at atime never did i hear of an approvale sheet.TELL THEM TO KISS YOUR *** AND GOOOOOOOOO IT YOUR VACATION TAKE IT AND GGGGGOOOOOOO
 
canron said:
we took our kidss out of school for 1 week at atime never did i hear of an approvale sheet.TELL THEM TO KISS YOUR *** AND GOOOOOOOOO IT YOUR VACATION TAKE IT AND GGGGGOOOOOOO

That is a very mature attitude. This is the type of thing that causes the problems in the first place. Yes, you make the decision about your family but you should at least respect the rules of your schools enough to be polite about it.
 
Teachers get two months vacation. Most of us 1-2 wks. To go south in the summer is crazy! I don't believe we should cater to the school system. They don't for us!

Charleyann
 
Charleyann said:
Teachers get two months vacation. Most of us 1-2 wks. To go south in the summer is crazy! I don't believe we should cater to the school system. They don't for us!

Charleyann

This has nothing to do with teachers. They don't make the rules, the districts do. Plus there is always the Christmas Break and March Break here in NB.

There are some families that the traditional breaks will not work. So if that is you, you need to make the decisin that is best for your family. If the traditional breaks work, then that is what should be used, imo.

To go south in the summer is not crazy. We did it in 2005 and will be doing it again in 2007. Was it hot and humid, yes. Did it stop us from having a great time, no. Was it crowded, yes. Did we wait for more than 20 minutes for anything, maybe twice in 10 days.
 
Had to jump in here as I just wrote the letter for my gr 7 for October - here's what I wrote:

This letter is to inform you that Tim in class 7-E and Mrs. F's LD class will be away from school from October 8th until October 21st on a family vacation.

We have provided Tim with a copy of this letter for each of his teachers and would appreciate if they could contact us at their convenience so we could make arrangements for Tim to get any work that will need to be completed ahead of time.

Dianna is home during the day and can be contacted at (xxx) xxx-xxxx or by email at xxx.


I will not justify a 2 week vacation - the school is just going to have to accept that we are doing it. They are MY kids and I worked hard to get them here and will take em out whenever I darn well please (insert foot stomp here!!) :rotfl2: ;)

On a side we did ask in person that they give us an approximate list of what they will be covering so we can make sure ds is caught up and at open house they all agreed to give it to us a week before we go - other then a daily journal and books to read I don't do homework on vacation - my ds is also in a special Ed class though for Math and English and doesn't get much homework to begin with and is behind by 1 to 2 yrs in most subjects so really.... what's 2 weeks!?!?

Hope you enjoy your vacation - we will :thumbsup2

ETA forgot to mention that I also have a ds in gr 1 and he is way ahead anyway - he'll do a journal and reading also and the teacher has some math she wants him to complete - he'll be pleased with that - weird kid loves math and is good at it too!
 
I've made my DD9 do a journal the last few times I took her out. I spoke to the teacher ahead of time, and we discussed the journal, and having her present highlights of it when she returns. I figured a good way to get her more comfortable with public speaking. Teachers agreed, and DD told them she had it upon return, but nothing was ever done with it. :rotfl:

Since I'm still trying to keep our Dec trip a secret from the kids, I will go either call or go in and discuss it with the teachers. I figure reading (on the trip), spelling words and some math sheets to do upon our return should be sufficient. I certainly don't expect them to have work for us ahead of time. I don't think it's their responsibility to figure out their lesson plans that far ahead just to give my kids the work. kids are only back one week before the Christmas break so I figure they can do extra cathing up during that time. Oh, and my kids are only grades 1 and 4, so I think it makes a huge difference the older they get.

I do believe it is courteous to notify the teachers ahead of time. JMHO as I have never been the recipient of "grief" for taking my kids out of school. ;)


MaryLiz
 
I'll be taking my son, in grade 1, out for two weeks in Feb. Ok, it's only gr 1. The school has already circulated its policy, which is it does not give out work packages beforehand, but will keep the worksheets, etc., to give kids on their return.

Not perfect, but as a former teacher, I can live with it. Choices and consequences, as we tell ds all the time! ;-)

My son's teacher has TWENTY EIGHT kids. No aide, no nuthin'. For me to ask her for that work before hand would be presumptuous. Yep, she's an experienced teacher, a really wonderful teacher, but it's her first year at our school, maybe her first year in gr 1, and I know the work often ISN'T fine-tuned a couple of weeks ahead. I don't want her to have to dig out the worksheets from last year or whatever.

The usual school faculty will have a lot of experienced teachers who may well have everything ready to go, but there will be some in the mix who are young and less experienced, some who have taken on a new course or grade for a professional challenge, and others who just revise every time they teach something--which is a blessing for the students, rather than getting an assignment that's been used verbatim for years.

I taught high school and I know you can cover a LOT in a week or more, especially in Ontario where classes are semestered. (I.e., you have course X for 70 mins a day every day but are finished it in one semester.) But our school did support family vacations and wouldn't say no. I think you just have to understand that thing about choices and consequences--and of course make sure older children understand too.

For younger ones, I think parents can do a lot to support the learning, make the vacation relevant. (Last May my son did a journal, as others have mentioned--great for someone learning to read and write!) Older ones too--not just the obvious stuff like, oh I don't know, a little zoology at the Animal Kingdom--but the extracurricular intangibles like being comfortable in another country and culture (they speak English, I know, but it's not Barrie!!), or even the sophistication to negotiate a busy airport, or get through Customs. However, I have to admit, with sinking heart, once the kids are in high school, I won't take them out for more than a few days for a family trip. (Some days I miss teaching, but not when I look at the cost of travel during July and August!)

It's unfortunate when schools or boards are less than diplomatic in communicating policies, as was the OP's school apparently. I would guess their INTENT was to make sure everyone had thought about the consequences of the planned absence, rather than putting any individual family through the wringer.

All that said, I don't think 4 days would be a huge deal, as long as it's not during exams or something.
 














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