Guests behaving badly

[bigdisneydaddy]

Is it just me or does anyone else notice a decline in social graces ?

During our Christmas trip I noticed several people being very rude to CM's for no reason at all. If you want to be miserable then why not stay home ?

One man in the Meadows was trying to fill his mug (an old one from another resort) with free coffee, the polite CM at the register had apparently let it slide the day before but told the man that the only free refills were for the FW mugs. He replied that the fact that she was going to charge him $1.25 today instead of allowing him to steal coffee was "not very Disney"
I was thinking in my head that stealing isnt very Disney either.

The new procedure for line jumping is the same as before, send one advance operative to the front of the line and then have everyone alse in your party wait a while, then have the rest of your party rudely push their way to the front. If met by an angry look just explain "my family is up there"

Fires are not allowed in the campsite grills only if you follow rules. If you dont follow rules go ahead and do it anyways, nobody will actually make you put it out. Go ahead and steal 2 rolls of paper towels from the comfort station to get it started, I am sure that why Disney has extras in those cupboards.

Its okay to let kids under 16 drive the golf carts, never mind that you signed that paper saying you wouldnt, after all that rule couldnt possibly apply to you exceptional child.

Have as many guest as you want at your campsite, have them park their cars all over the place since parking is at such a premium anyways. The front desk will go ahead and let your guests drive their own cars in so as not to inconvenience them by parking in the Outpost lot and using the WDW busses.




Scott

 

[ftwildernessguy]

I agree, Scott. When confronted, the standard reply seems to be "everyone else is doing it, so it must be okay." I thought that answer was left behind in high school.

 

[rbork]

Don't remind me! I am trying so hard to raise our disney son's to behave in a polite and respectful way. I kill's me to see all the abuses of quidelines/rules these days. Unfortuneately, it's not just Disney.

 

[Tickla]

I don't understand some people It is horrible the way people can be-they do all this stuff,the kids see it, think it's funny, then they turn around and act the same way-then people wonder why the kids these days are so rude and out of control? I really am scared of what our country will be like when today's kids are running it

 

[twinklebug]

It's not just in Disney - it's gotten worse everywhere. What can be done to bring back the social graces that should be the norm?

What I don't understand is how the Japanese have managed to instill in their people a sense of respect that is just lacking in America. I showed my kids Japanese ice sculpture pictures that have been passed around the web this year and my 9yo's comment was "there are no fences to keep people from touching them" My reply was "Uh huh, must be a nice place to live"

 

[Tricializ]

I had noticed that it was pretty prevalent but less so at FW. The thing that bothers me the most about Disney is the over-indulged children you see there. I realize that all the kids who get to go to Disney are indulged in some way (heck mine are. LOL) But, you see the families who apparently never say no to their kids. They are rude, "me first" types who think that rules are just for everyone else. It's sad to see but I guess that's how it is now.
sigh

 

[Jennasmomma]

One of our last days on vacation was the worst! We had 2 ECVs. My mom and I were able to get off of them so my sister, dad, bil..would free wheel them up the ramp. The bus driver lowered the ramp and my sister started up the ramp. As she was doing so a group of like 4 adults and a bunch of kids under the age of 5 were suppose to wait to board the bus. The kids ran up the bus steps and darted for the back of the bus. My sister almost ran into a few of the kids with the ECV.

My mom and sister made comments to the adults. They just looked at her blankly and said how were we suppose to know? one person actually said to another in their party. Is she actually yelling at us?

Uh duh! What morons.

 

[DisCamper]

We are just back from my first New Years in FW. It seem to me that the people camping on this trip where all rude. I tried to talk to some of my fellow camper a lot of them acted like they didn’t have the time.

 

[Donna]

With the exception of the parade-taping day crowd on 12-2 (which was horrendous) , i have to say i thought guests this past trip were exceptionally well-mannered. I thought maybe it was the holiday spirit or something. i witnessed guests holding the door for other guests, letting parties stay together, men giving up seats on the bus to women and/or children. honestly, i was shocked because you hardly ever see that at disney but everywhere i went, i seem to run into this and it made me feel good and i wanted to be sure i did the same for others. I offered to take group pictures so families could be in the same picture, let kids stand in front of me at the parades, stuff like that. I thought if you spread it, surely it will catch on.
I have to say, at other theme/amusement parks, it is so much worse. The worst that you witness at disney is the best you will see somewhere else. At parks like Cedar Point or a Six Flags, it's like a prison let out or something!

 

[bigdisneydaddy]

With the exception of the parade-taping day crowd on 12-2 (which was horrendous) , i have to say i thought guests this past trip were exceptionally well-mannered. I thought maybe it was the holiday spirit or something. i witnessed guests holding the door for other guests, letting parties stay together, men giving up seats on the bus to women and/or children. honestly, i was shocked because you hardly ever see that at disney but everywhere i went, i seem to run into this and it made me feel good and i wanted to be sure i did the same for others. I offered to take group pictures so families could be in the same picture, let kids stand in front of me at the parades, stuff like that. I thought if you spread it, surely it will catch on.
I have to say, at other theme/amusement parks, it is so much worse. The worst that you witness at disney is the best you will see somewhere else. At parks like Cedar Point or a Six Flags, it's like a prison let out or something!

I agree on Cedar point, we didnt even go this year.

 

[Tricializ]

"men giving up seats on the bus to women and/or children"

Oh the bus issue. Don't even get me started. Here are my pet peeves regarding riding a crowded bus in no particular order:

Families who insist on a seat for their 2 year old when the bus is packed. Can't they put the child on their lap so someone else can sit down?

Men and/or older children who SHOULD get up for pregnant/older/mom w/little ones etc. people. I looked at my son once when he had offered his seat (without me saying anything and he was only about 14 at the time) and said that if I ever had to say something to him, he was in trouble. LOL He looked at me and said, "mom you NEVER will. I know better". I was at Disney at 7mo pregnant with a 2 year old balancing a stroller and noone ever offered me a seat. It's not that I would have even taken it, but geesh.

People who won't move back to open seats and clog up the aisle forever.

People who don't hold on when the bus is moving and fall into you. Duh.

I think that's it...Oh yeah. One more. People who don't say "thanks" to the bus driver for the ride.

Tricia

 

[ftwildernessguy]

I agree on Cedar point, we didnt even go this year.

We live near Dorney Park - owned by the same parent company - and we won't go there any more for the same reason. Not really sure what demographic this company is aiming at, but it can't be very good for business.

 

[DisCamper]

We saw many of people in golf cart cut off the horses in the hay New Years eve. That could get alot of people hurt.

 

[bigdisneydaddy]

"men giving up seats on the bus to women and/or children"

Oh the bus issue. Don't even get me started. Here are my pet peeves regarding riding a crowded bus in no particular order:

Families who insist on a seat for their 2 year old when the bus is packed. Can't they put the child on their lap so someone else can sit down?

Men and/or older children who SHOULD get up for pregnant/older/mom w/little ones etc. people. I looked at my son once when he had offered his seat (without me saying anything and he was only about 14 at the time) and said that if I ever had to say something to him, he was in trouble. LOL He looked at me and said, "mom you NEVER will. I know better". I was at Disney at 7mo pregnant with a 2 year old balancing a stroller and noone ever offered me a seat. It's not that I would have even taken it, but geesh.

People who won't move back to open seats and clog up the aisle forever.

People who don't hold on when the bus is moving and fall into you. Duh.

I think that's it...Oh yeah. One more. People who don't say "thanks" to the bus driver for the ride.

Tricia

I have given up my seat many times on a WDW bus for those reasons. I simply will not sit while older folks and Women with small children stand. Sometimes others will look at you like "why did you give up your seat"
My Mother taught me better than that, my 2 teenage sons have done it also.
We always make it a point to say Thanks to CM's whatever the situation, they all appreciate it.

You catch more flies with Honey than you do with Vinegar.

I am a firm believer in Karma catching up with people

 

[Tricializ]

I am a firm believer in Karma catching up with people

One can only hope.

 

[ZacinIndy]

Oh don't even get me started on the dippity do-duhs that plop down in the middle of the row! I always give them a scary look that only a tall hulking giant can give, and I fell better as I climb over them. Do I look like I can squirm past people without bonking them with my size 15 shoes? Tsk tsk tsk.

 

[Whosemom]

Cedar Point? We must go at different times of the year. We've never had a problem there. They seem to have a better hold on the line jumping than Disney.

My pet rude peeve is people who smoke in line, and since thet aren't allowed, hold te ciggy down at their side - eye level to my kids. Doi. Then I can get ugly.

 

[becky1960]

Let me start this off by saying we were at FW 12/18 thru 12/28 and as always we enjoyed FW. We expirenced great CM"s and met may nice guests.
Now, let me tell you a different story, I had to bring my son in a wheelchair because of an past and impending surgery. It was quite an expirence, people seem to not care about the handicapped as much as they should. I found it quite difficult to hold onto a wheelchair while standing on a bus. My son could walk onto a bus, but could not do heavy walking because of his open wound.

We went to Magic Kingdom on Christmas day for dinner, and as we entered the train station we were stopped by the large crowd, the parade was going on. We decided to wait untill it was over but when it ended it started to rain and the crowd tried to exit as the other crowd tried to enter and we were jammed up. People started to panic and started pushing against each other. I couldnt move either way with a Wheelcair. A lady had her baby next to me in a stroller and people actually started stepping on the baby. The lady yelled " You people are stepping on my baby" . I looked down and I saw another person step on the baby. Never again on Christmas Day for me. A FW Castmember on 12/27 told us that AK an MK were both closed early due to attendance.

I have worked in Law Enforcement for many years and have taken courses on Crowd control and Riot control, this crowd was almost to that point. A railroad engineer from Disney came down and helped control the crowd as they were'nt going to move. I must say I have noticed a decline in politeness in people, we can only hope it changes.

 

[ftwildernessguy]

One shocking thing we noticed last visit was that this rudeness is becoming international, affecting groups not previously thought of as rude. I have always commented to my wife how visitors from the UK have in general been extremely polite and patient. Not this visit. Many UK visitors are now acting like americans- pushing, shoving, line jumping. So sad.

 

[Tricializ]

We went to Magic Kingdom on Christmas day for dinner, and as we entered the train station we were stopped by the large crowd, the parade was going on. We decided to wait untill it was over but when it ended it started to rain and the crowd tried to exit as the other crowd tried to enter and we were jammed up. People started to panic and started pushing against each other. I couldnt move either way with a Wheelcair. A lady had her baby next to me in a stroller and people actually started stepping on the baby. The lady yelled " You people are stepping on my baby" . I looked down and I saw another person step on the baby. Never again on Christmas Day for me. A FW Castmember on 12/27 told us that AK an MK were both closed early due to attendance.

I have been involved in one of those post parade traffic jams when my little ones were 1 and 3. It was truly frightening and if it hadn't been for my overly protective older kids who were 17 and 13 at the time)the baby would have been trampled. People push and shove when there is nowhere to go. I don't know what the big hurry is anyway. The other rude things I've encountered is the rude line jumpers at the end of the night boarding the launches back to the resorts.