Guest Test of Magic Bands (Official Notice)

[Robo]

Ah, but like with my previous example on the ADRs, the hump should be less than if 100% of people are trying to get them the day of, as they will be spread out a bit...

I don't agree.
It's not the same kind of thing.


It's just a concept, at this point, because we can't know exactly how it
will finally roll out.

And, how it will change as the system becomes better known and "tips" start flying.

("Pull up the site at 5:48AM, enter FP+ for X, Y, and Z.
Do the same on 5-10 identical browser windows.
Then, at exactly 5:59 start hitting the "Enter" key.)

 

[doconeill]

I don't agree.
It's not the same kind of thing.

It's just a concept, at this point, because we can't know exactly how it
will finally roll out.

And, how it will change as the system becomes better known and "tips" start flying.

I'm not sure how at a technical level you see it is different. It seems almost certain that at 60 days they will release all of the prebook FP+ slots, similar to ADRs now (leave the +10 resort benefit out for now)

So at 60 days out, you get the crush...but it isn't everyone who will eventually prebook. They have 60 days. Maybe 75% will do it at 60 days. The rat are spread out.

But if you only let people prebook the morning of as suggested, it is now 100% of them...more resources needed.

 

[ArwenMarie]

I think that the titles of the patents related to the system tell all: it's a Guest Management Process. If you think about it, what is the #1 complaint you hear from the average person who visits Diseny (besides weather?)? It's that the lines are too long. FP+/My Magic + is being designed to eliminate waits in lines, to increase guest satisfaction and hopefully increase the amount of money each guest spends in the park.

It's all about trying to keep more people happy, which is going to come at the expense at the rest of us who are willing to do a little research to minimize our waits in line.

I agree with this too, even though I still think making money off of FP is the main goal. This is Disney's way of dealing with the problem that they have too few headliners for the numbers of guests who come to the parks. An hour wait for any ride is absolutely crazy and people do not go home happy after that. It's simply selling back a solution to their overcrowded headliners, a solution that used to be "free." (if I am right that eventually they will try to sell this in some form)

 

[mom2rtk]

Rumor has it the attendance numbers for the prebooked parades and fireworks yesterday at Magic Kingdom were embarrassingly low.

Would said rumor apply to the total number of people who were eligible and did not book? Or the number of people who booked but did not show up at the appointed time?

If it's the latter, then how many imagineers will it take for them to realize that they're going to get a more realistic "no-show" rate if they go real-world and take away that little card that allows folks to get as many same-day fastpasses as they could before? Der.

If they want to know how this will work, they need to stop sugar-coating it in their tests.

That really is an interesting study all its own though. That sort of tells me that given the availability of both systems on a given day, people preferred something about the same-day system over the pre-booked system.

Or maybe none of the wristbands worked!

 

[mesaboy2]

nm

 

[Robo]

nm

You know what they say... "NM is GN."

(Welcome back, mb2!)

 

[Phil Dunphy]

Would said rumor apply to the total number of people who were eligible and did not book? Or the number of people who booked but did not show up at the appointed time?

Rumor says both.

 

[Robo]

Rumor says both.

My rumors agree.

(Of course, they are likely the SAME rumors.)

 

[rosie2283]

As someone who has been to DL and knows the ropes there and is in the process of planning our first DisneyWorld vacation, I feel like I could use a weekend WDW course just to figure out all the ADRs, MyMagic, Fastpass+, etc. Sigh...so overwhelming.

 

[Robo]

I'm not sure how at a technical level you see it is different. It seems almost certain that at 60 days they will release all of the prebook FP+ slots, similar to ADRs now (leave the +10 resort benefit out for now)

So at 60 days out, you get the crush...but it isn't everyone who will eventually prebook. They have 60 days. Maybe 75% will do it at 60 days. The rat are spread out.

But if you only let people prebook the morning of as suggested, it is now 100% of them...more resources needed.

Yes.
However, the "best ones" will be the targeted first to go.
Those will be the "train wreck" choices.
They will be the "tips on how to get X" prime motivators of the
60-days-out crowd.

And, I agree that "The rat are spread out."
The "main rat" at WDW are spread out all over the place, all day long.
He be a busy rat!

 

[DisneyFanSince71]

Rumor has it the attendance numbers for the prebooked parades and fireworks yesterday at Magic Kingdom were embarrassingly low.

Everyone is use to making dinner reservations. You take 5 minutes out to make a call and get a slot for 2 hours to have dinner.

No one is accustomed to getting a ride reservation and it takes more time to figure it out then the benefit of using it.

The people on this board are the top 1% of Disney experts. After 20 years of explaining how to navigate against the crowds, a great number of patrons still make their park choices on which one opens early. If Disney wants to enhance the guest experience perhaps they could do something about that.

For all this technology to allegedly enhance the guest experience (or manage the guest experience) it seems to me that the solution would be relatively simple... increase capacity. Either increase the hours at the parks OR add a few rides instead of replacing one for another.

 

[doconeill]

Yes.
However, the "best ones" will be the targeted first to go.
Those will be the "train wreck" choices.
They will be the "tips on how to get X" prime motivators of the
60-days-out crowd.

The same pretty much exists/existed for ADRs. I think it was AllEars that said, if you want CRT, you call starting at 6:55am until you get through, and as soon as the CM answers, you interrupt and say "I need Cindy for X:XX on X/XX"...

And, I agree that "The rat are spread out."
The "main rat" at WDW are spread out all over the place, all day long.
He be a busy rat!

That's what I get for using my phone at lunch.

And no, I was not eating rat...

(it was meant to say "rest")

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

The same pretty much exists/existed for ADRs. I think it was AllEars that said, if you want CRT, you call starting at 6:55am until you get through, and as soon as the CM answers, you interrupt and say "I need Cindy for X:XX on X/XX"...

I get this ADR EVERY trip and have NEVER done this, btw.

Still Speculation Central on the DIS, I see...

I know... we "have to" speculate because they refuse to release more info.

I've been happily checked out on this discussion for months and am back to start stalking for Fireworks Dessert Party... I promise I won't stay long.

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

As someone who has been to DL and knows the ropes there and is in the process of planning our first DisneyWorld vacation, I feel like I could use a weekend WDW course just to figure out all the ADRs, MyMagic, Fastpass+, etc. Sigh...so overwhelming.

It's not half as bad as some of these threads make it sound -- truly. A bit of research and you'll be fine!!!

 

[mom2rtk]

I get this ADR EVERY trip and have NEVER done this, btw.

Still Speculation Central on the DIS, I see...

I know... we "have to" speculate because they refuse to release more info.

I've been happily checked out on this discussion for months and am back to start stalking for Fireworks Dessert Party... I promise I won't stay long.

CRT is not the tough "get" it used to be because it's a character (princess) meal 3 times a day and they run it practically nonstop. It used to be a character meal only at breakfast. And it was indeed a very tough "get".

BOG has taken it's place as the hardest ADR to score at Disney.

 

[ArwenMarie]

As someone who has been to DL and knows the ropes there and is in the process of planning our first DisneyWorld vacation, I feel like I could use a weekend WDW course just to figure out all the ADRs, MyMagic, Fastpass+, etc. Sigh...so overwhelming.

Start with the cheat sheets on easywdw dot com

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

CRT is not the tough "get" it used to be because it's a character (princess) meal 3 times a day and they run it practically nonstop. It used to be a character meal only at breakfast. And it was indeed a very tough "get".

BOG has taken it's place as the hardest ADR to score at Disney.

Yup. We've been going for about 9 years now, and CRT does seem easier... but even 9 yrs ago I wasn't dialing at the crack of dawn.

Did BOG for first time last Feb after Princess Half. Got it online at 180 days. Same thing for our upcoming trip. Same thing for Le Cellier every trip.

I suppose I think a bit too much drama surrounds a lot of this stuff on here... JMHO.

 

[doconeill]

Yup. We've been going for about 9 years now, and CRT does seem easier... but even 9 yrs ago I wasn't dialing at the crack of dawn.

Did BOG for first time last Feb after Princess Half. Got it online at 180 days. Same thing for our upcoming trip. Same thing for Le Cellier every trip.

I suppose I think a bit too much drama surrounds a lot of this stuff on here... JMHO.

Hmm...yet, I couldn't get BOG at 178 days (I forgot and called late).

There have been many changes, and things have gotten easier at places. Le Cellier is an excellent example. It became the "go to" place at Epcot for those on the dining plan - I suspect it was because of the generally "American" menu, appealing to the non-adventurous palate.

It became a two-credit place a couple years ago - and voila - easier to get an ADR.

In 2003, I definitely had to call right at 7 180 days out for CRT. Had to try a couple times, too...

Keep in mind that just because you didn't experience it, does not mean it didn't happen. We aren't making it up. And we aren't saying to has to be done today either. But they were examples of the extreme.

 

[WillAustin]

Hmm...yet, I couldn't get BOG at 178 days (I forgot and called late).

It seems to depend on the time of year and if you get lucky. There are several people who have posted on the Restaurants board that have been unable to get BOG even at 180+10.

TSMM FP+ reservations will be on a completely different level. I'd count on that.

 

[Robo]

Oh, never mind.