Guess-timate?

ZehnJahren

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My mom was diagnosed with an enlarged heart in May. The doc told her that with regular exercise, quitting smoking, and a change in diet, she should be good to go for our trip in October.

Let's say her heart is still enlarged on her pre-trip appointment in early October. If you had to guess, what rides do you think she would still be able to ride throughout the entire World when we go in mid-October? Pirates? IASW? Gran Fiesta? Your guess is welcome here.
 
I would side with caution. Watch your mom very carefully just walking around the park. I think you should consider a wheelchair for her for the trip; it will conserve her energy. You can try a scooter, as well depending on your mom's capabilities.

There are rides that post DO NOT RIDE if you have a heart condition; so, I would definitely say NO to those rides. Avoid all thrill rides. Borrowing the link from another post, this can be helpful for you: http://allears.net/tp/rr.htm This is not a complete list, but it's helpful.

Perhaps the best way to look at it would be the rides that you can stay in a wheelchair should be safer; although, Toy Story Mania, is a very jerky ride and that has a wheelchair car. I would not go on that one, but that's me. I don't think there's an absolute answer, here. Stick with the kiddyland kind of rides if you need to ride anything.

I repeat, I would absolutely be on the side of caution. There are plenty of shows, parades, fireworks and live street entertainment to keep your mom smiling without going on a lot of rides.

I'm not in the medical field; so, I feel a little lost giving any advice, here. Try to get some hints from your doctor on her appointment as to what kind of motions she should avoid and so forth. How long of a day would be okay should be asked, as well. On this other thread one suggestion was to show the doctor the actual ride using u-tube videos; I think that's a great idea. If there are few rides you are particularly unsure of and want to do them let the doctor see them. Your doctor may be on the side of caution; so, don't be too disappointed.

It can be exhausting just walking around the parks. Estimates are from 6 to 12 miles a day of walking depending on how long you stay at the parks.

I would alternate activities; so, your mom has a lot of rest periods. Don't overdo with her. You may find yourself back at the resort for a mid day break or two. Maybe, when the doctor says it's okay do something at home like going to a zoo and see how your mom handles that activity. If she's very tired from that experience I would be very careful at Disney.

We have some here that have medical experience; so, hopefully they will come forward and reply. I still think you need to be very careful.

We don't go on many rides and we still like going to Disney World. Take a look at the park from a non-ride approach. Maybe, your group can take turns sitting a ride out with her and keep her company while others enjoy the thrill rides and so forth. Have some quality conversations with her.
 
I hear you loud and clear. We won't be taking any chances at all. She was diagnosed in early May, and one of the major symptoms of the enlarged heart was that she was having a lot of trouble breathing in the heat and humidity, and her blood pressure was also high, especially when exerting herself. Her blood pressure is now very good and her breathing is back to normal; she's working out regularly and recently walked in a parade. The reason for the enlarged heart was early stage emphysema, and when she saw the doc not long after the diagnosis, she was already improving rapidly - she made a lot of lifestyle changes, including quitting smoking immediately. So she's doing VERY well!

She has an appointment with her doctor the week before we go to WDW to verify how she's doing and for her doctor to make a determination if this will be a ride or no-ride vacation. I've told her multiple times that there are enough shows and sight-seeing that we won't have any problems regardless; but I figured even if she's still not completely out of the woods, she'd be able to ride something like IASW. That's kind of what I was asking. Her biggest goal is Splash; she wants to ride that again more than anything. Fortunately, her doctor is a big fan of WDW and goes every year; so Doc knows the rides mom wants to get on, and how intense they are. We'll trust her judgment.

I figured if we had to (if she wanted) we could rent an ECV too if they're available that day. We already discussed heading back to the resort in the afternoon for a nap or pool time or something.
 
You can use a wheelchair like a walker and not sit in it. Same with an ECV. If mom wants to walk a little then someone else can ride the ECV for a while.

Keep in mind where you have rides that have a wheelchair transfer; utilize this feature if you need to have extra help.

Boat rides like It's a Small Small World and Grand Fiesta and Jungle Cruise actually have a boat where you can wheel on a wheelchair. It's like a ratio of 6 to 1 on which boat has this feature, but it doesn't really take that long.

Because she may get weak if you are attemping rides that are more difficult to get in and out of and if you have a bigger group then make sure someone goes in before her to help her on and someone goes in after her to balance her going in. Reverse the process when you get out.

That's about all I have to offer.
 

I am an RN, not a doctor, just to be clear. So, I will be giving Nursing perspective
An enlarged heart is a symptom that the heart is being asked work harder than it is capable of. One of the ways the heart reacts to the increased demand is by enlarging.
Some of the things that increase demand on the heart are being overweight and smoking. This is a good reference about enlarged hearts that explains things very well and it is from a recognized and reliable source.
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/enlarged-heart/ds01129

A trip to WDW is a wonderful incentive to do the this she needs to change to get healthy. But, it likely took her many years to get into her present situation, and quitting smoking and weight loss are not quick and easy things to change. So, even if she gets into shape to go to WDW, that doesn't mean she will be ready to do 9-12 miles of walking per day.
An ECV or wheelchair would be a good choice to help her conserve energy and keep the demands on her heart lowered.
Post 2 of the disABILITIES FAQs thread has information about renting wheelchairs and ECVs. You can find that thread near the top of this board or follow the link in my signature.
If she is really nervous about driving an ECV, it may be best to get a wheelchair instead - stress increases the heart rate. And, although using an ECV is not physically tiring, it requires alertness and it can be tiring to remain alert all the time.

A wheelchair and, in most cases an ECV, can be brought all the way in line to the boarding area. She may want to leave the wheelchair or ECV parked with the strollers for some attractions, but should be aware that some of the lines are long distance to walk, even if the wait is short.
There is more information on using and ECV, transferring and the lines in posts 18-22 on page 2 of the disABILITIES FAQs thread.
There are a few attrations with stairs - if she chooses to walk into those, she should get a Guest Assistance Card to bypass the stairs. There is more information about Gues Assistance Cards in post 6 of the disABILITIES FAQs thread ( she won't need one to use a wheelchair or ECV in lines/attractions.

For attractins with warnings, post 23 of the disABILITIES FAQs thread has a full list from the WDW park maps. I also included information in that post about why the attraction probably has the warning.
WDW uses a sort of generic and all inclusive warning. Attractions either have that warning or don't have a warning at all ( other than Soarin' which has a warning about fear of heights ).
Some people choose to avoid anything with a warning; for example, my father in law avoided anything with warnings because he had high blood pressure. Even if you do that, there are still plenty of things to see.

But, not every part of the warning applies to every attraction with a warning.
For example, Kali River Rapids, Kilimanjaro Safari and Expedition Everest at AK all have warnings.
Kali River Rapids is a turbulent, high speed ride on a free floating raft. It can raise heart rate and blood pressure because of all the unexpected turns and you can get suddenly drenched with cold water. The raft also sometimes comes down hard after going down a rapids. I would not recommend that attraction for anyone who has any of the warnings.
Kilimanjaro Safari is a mostly slow ride over rough roads. There are a couple of sort of scary parts, where you go over rickety bridges and go fast to 'chase' poachers, but those would probably not raise blood pressure or heart rate for most people because they know they are part of the show. Because the roads are rough and have bumps and potholes, there can be sudden jostles or bumps that might be a concern for people with neck or back problems. Also, if your ride tram breaks down, you will need to wait to be evacuated and the steps down are kind of high. So, most people with heart or blood pressure problems would be fine with that attraction.
Expedition Everest is a high speed, ride on a runaway railroad car. The whole attraction is based on it being 'out of control' with changes of direction and scary factor. So, that would probably not be a good choice for someone with the problems on the warning, although it is pretty smooth, so many people with back problems report they can ride it.

If she wants to ride some attrations with warnings, I would have her talk to her doctor about what sorts of things to avoid. There may be some very specific guidelines and, if so, I would try to pick out which attractions don't have those things.
I would personally not bother with trying to show videos to the doctor because I don't think that would be particularly helpful. Most of the dark attractions don't show up well on video and videos can be misleading - making things look more or less intense than they actually are. Without actually experiencing some of them, it's hard to tell what they would be like.
If there are some you are not sure of, you can ask the CM at the entrance for more information or ask to have one of your party actually do the attraction to check it out ( choose wisely - we don't have my DH check things out because he thinks all the roller coasters are "nothing - a piece of cake."
 
Sorry for the typos on my other post - I was writing while you were posting.
Glad to hear she is doing well! It is also helpful that her doctor is a WDW fan.

I would suggest NOT using the wheelchair ride cars and boats since she can walk onto the regular ride car. There is an extra wait for those boats/ cars and in some cases, it has to be transformed for use with a wheelchair. Wonderful for those people like my DD who can't transfer, but extra wait and bother for those who are able to.
 
Thanks for the replies; SueM, I really appreciate your long entry.

I've already been thinking of how restricted I WANT her to be, even if the doc says it's ok to ride anything. I wouldn't want her to go on ToT, for example; even I am left breathless on that one. But I had just been thinking the whole time of us being ok to ride Pirates, HM, IASW... this is definitely making me think a little different.

I don't care, personally - I just wanna go hang out with my mom at one of our favorite places. But I'm really thinking that I should kind of plan on a wheelchair or ECV. I'd already planned on several rest breaks at the park (Ma and I are ABSOLUTELY people watchers), so I have a lot to think about. Thank you.
 
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