Groups skipping through lines...

[Realfoodfans]

No one said it was "written." The fact that you have not heard someone say this does not mean it is not true. Have you heard someone say. "The first emperor of Japan was Emperor Jimmu"? Probably not. But it is true! You don't personally hear experience all things.

But thank you for editorializing and turning it into "pushing through crowded lines to get to your party." It would be so disappointing if the ridiculous hyperbole and exaggeration was omitted from a post.



Is someone in your party disabled? Because otherwise, how would you have heard this?

We have absolutely been told this by CMs at character lines. Sometimes when my middle son is struggling, my husband or I wait in the line and we bring the kids up when it is our turn. (We always run over and push some people and try to knock them down, when we come over.) The one time - one time - a CM ever told us "No," her supervisor came right over and corrected her.

Seems like we're all getting different advice. I've made contact regarding arrangements for queuing with my grandson with special needs and been told we need to go to Guest Services for a DAS card with his photo and that is the only way to get help - no mention of one queuing while others don't. Even been "advised" on here that if he needed a break we should all have to leave the queue and rejoin so I'm definitely confused as to what actually happens!

 

[MinnieSweetheart]

Seems like we're all getting different advice. I've made contact regarding arrangements for queuing with my grandson with special needs and been told we need to go to Guest Services for a DAS card with his photo and that is the only way to get help - no mention of one queuing while others don't. Even been "advised" on here that if he needed a break we should all have to leave the queue and rejoin so I'm definitely confused as to what actually happens!

I'm going to take a wild guess and say that the CMs just didn't feel like dealing with them, because if the others in line didn't mind then it's not worth enforcing policies and being screamed at by the guests.

 

[Gracie09]

Seems like we're all getting different advice. I've made contact regarding arrangements for queuing with my grandson with special needs and been told we need to go to Guest Services for a DAS card with his photo and that is the only way to get help - no mention of one queuing while others don't. Even been "advised" on here that if he needed a break we should all have to leave the queue and rejoin so I'm definitely confused as to what actually happens!

Please check out the disabilities forum. It is a wealth of information.

 

[Realfoodfans]

Please check out the disabilities forum. It is a wealth of information.

Thank you - yes I'm chatting on there and so far (as is the norm) everyone very helpful but definitely sticking by the official guidelines as we would be mortified to have any form of conflict or confrontation with the grandchildren present!

 

[myjourney]

Sorry about the typo, that should have been ECV

Bawb?

 

[AntimonyER]

I think if they were in line, and had to leave, its perfectly acceptable, especially in the longer wait lines, to quickly leave and come back, if its not too difficult to do, assuming others from your party are still in line. Stuff happens. But if your party is separated prior to entering the line, I think the correct thing to do is wait outside the line until your full party arrives, then go in together. If you were unknowingly seperated, the people in front should step aside and wait for the rest of their party if its so important to be together (It is what we do as a family). By skipping you are taking time away from other people as a result of your and your group's own choices and actions. Its selfishness.

 

[ChloesDaddy]

Sorry about the typo, that should have been ECV

No worries. Thought it might have been a Bob Varley tribute.

Anyone who doesn't follow should do themselves a favor and check out the old DIS podcasts.

 

[maxiesmom]

To be more clear. We were at the curb. You can not stay by the curb when a bus comes for another destination. No one can board the bus for Epcot, HS or AK with a load of people refusing to move to save a spot for MK. We were told to step back and make room for people to board. Groups of people then came from the front of the resort exiting from Breakfast. They took advantage and pretended they were going to Epcot and then parked themselves in front of the people who were on line for the MK bus. They all had that look that they knew they were pulling a fast one.

In addition POR does have specific areas for resorts. They may have a few together.. but they do break them up. Never had this problem at say POR for example because you can certainly form a line and then stand back for a bus going to another destination without losing your spot. Not the case at Coronado Springs it is one big hodgepodge with just a waiting area. There is absolutely nothing we could have done to secure our spot without refusing to allow people to board the bus for Epcot.

We were not mulling about at the bus stop....were were at the curb. We were on line waiting and was asked to step back to allow people to board the Epcot bus. These people full well knew what they were doing. The CM knew what had happened as well. The CM apologized to everyone and called a replacement bus to come that took much longer than the CM expected. The CM was not going to fight with the line cutters.

Have you been to Coronado Springs? The main loading area at least when I went this past March is nothing remotely like the main loading area of the Moderates, deluxe, or Value Resorts I had been to. Those people did do something wrong. They knew they were cutting the people who were asked to stand back they knew exactly what they were doing. They pretended to be going to Epcot to get ahead and then got on the MK bus that moved in.

I've stayed at both Coronado Springs and Port Orleans Riverside many times. The only difference between the 2 resort bus stops is that at POR the front bus stop has 2 separate areas. But none of the other 3 around the resort do. They are all 1 area. I have rarely seen anyone bother to form a line at either resort. Certainly never enough people that it would make a difference between someone getting on a bus and not getting on.

I'm guessing you were trying to get on at the last bus stop at CSR? I can see how that one would get crowded right before rope drop.

 

[MaryLovesPoohBear]

No one said it was "written." The fact that you have not heard someone say this does not mean it is not true. Have you heard someone say. "The first emperor of Japan was Emperor Jimmu"? Probably not. But it is true! You don't personally hear experience all things.

But thank you for editorializing and turning it into "pushing through crowded lines to get to your party." It would be so disappointing if the ridiculous hyperbole and exaggeration was omitted from a post.



Is someone in your party disabled? Because otherwise, how would you have heard this?

We have absolutely been told this by CMs at character lines. Sometimes when my middle son is struggling, my husband or I wait in the line and we bring the kids up when it is our turn. (We always run over and push some people and try to knock them down, when we come over.) The one time - one time - a CM ever told us "No," her supervisor came right over and corrected her.

Yes, I am disabled. And I have never been told to cut in line. Ever.

 

[DizBelle]

A friend of mine was telling me about a time she was in line for Soarin'. She said that she and her boyfriend were in line and a couple standing a few parties in front of them. Then, the couple's 3 teenage children pushed ahead in the line to go stand with their parents. The group behind the couple said something to teh family about the kids cutting in line and the parents responded about how they are a family and want to experience stuff together but the Soarin' line is always so long long and the kids wanted to ride other stuff and blah blah blah. Supposedly, the gentleman in front of the couple then said something along the lines of, "Oh, I didn't realize that family was allowed to cut to be with the rest of the family. That's my brother and his wife. And those behind him are my cousins. And that's my aunt. Hey you guys, come up here and join me!" and a bunch of people ended up getting back in front of the 3 teens as well as their parents.


Not that I really think that is the right way to handle it, but I thought it made for an amusing story and wonder what the faces of the family who cut looked like.

OMG!!! LOVE IT!!!

 

[AshleeH]

I don't get why it's OK to pay to skip lines but not for people to be creative and jump ahead of you without paying.

For the same reason you shouldn't get mad if I'm on a private boat to watch Illuminations and you're standing on the sidewalk: You didn't pay for that privilege or convenience. Now, if you'd been standing on the sidewalk for an hour and I walked up and shoved my way in front of you to get a better view because I felt entitled to it, would that make you mad?

Therein lies the difference.

 

[ratdog9]

It would NEVER cross my mind to do this! I guess I was brought up in the era when everyone waited their turn and never felt "entitled" like I see now. Sad state of affairs.

 

[minniemous]

I've stayed at both Coronado Springs and Port Orleans Riverside many times. The only difference between the 2 resort bus stops is that at POR the front bus stop has 2 separate areas. But none of the other 3 around the resort do. They are all 1 area. I have rarely seen anyone bother to form a line at either resort. Certainly never enough people that it would make a difference between someone getting on a bus and not getting on.

I'm guessing you were trying to get on at the last bus stop at CSR? I can see how that one would get crowded right before rope drop.

Yes it was the main stop which I have learned is the last stop so it does arrive with a decent amount of people on board. This was a short trip and we only did the one park day. Never been there before. If we were there longer I would have certainly gone to one of the first stops. I know that POR does not have the separate lines at the outer stops but the main stop which most people go to is ridiculously more organized than the main stop at CSR.

The lobby stop at POR as you know has a clear area where the bus stops and it is straight shot so that a line can form and usually does without problem. CSR there is no such area at the el centro stop. As capegirl suggested if we ever go back to CSR we will go to one of the other stops.

 

[Lord Fantasius]

Yes, just happened this morning @ TSM, Two different families about 5 minutes apart, on w/ 4 people and another with 5, trying to cut the line because their husband "had just gotten to the front of the line and they had to go to the bathroom." Really, all four/five of you...including the other adults...just had to go to the bathroom after your husband got in to line. Truthfully, really don't mind if one parent has to go out with one or two children...but a whole family?! Disney might need to create a "returning family" escort line. It really is getting ridiculous!

 

[5DisneyNuts]

I do not condone line jumping at all. My family has been known to form a wall of sorts at the fill in the space moments and I will admit I have told folks "nope" at times in lines.

That said, for the new visitors looking at this thread, please don't think this is the norm. We go at some of the busiest times and very rarely come across this. Most guests are on the same page and don't try to take advantage.

I have seen people letting children in to view parades, I have given up front row views to people there to see Illuminations for the first time. Point being, I see these acts of kindness more than the rudeness.

Just my opinion and trying to put some perspective for newcomers.

 

[DizDaD7]

Yes, this is absolutely ok. Be in line, have a bathroom emergency with a little one...no problem whatsoever to leave and take care of it, then resume your place in line with your group.

But, to simply get in line to hold a place for the rest of your group when they arrive....not ok at all.

I'm usually ok with it when it is this way....Not necessarily a lil one w/ a parent, but any kid or parent that had to use the rest room or something else.....If it's only 1 member of their group that is coming through, than it's no big deal. If it's the opposite way around & only 1 on line & the rest trying to join them, then You might as well call Houston, Because there's going to be a problem...I very politely tell them that whoever is up front can come back & meet you here...LoL My DW Hates when I have to do that.....But honestly Usually I don't let wacky things like that bother me anymore.....I love killin 'em with kindness.

 

[jrt1176]

Very true...

But, I think people usually remember the negative more than the positive in these situations. Of course, that's why these type of threads are popular!

I saw it a few times at the end of January, but never 4-5 people...maybe 2-3, etc.

Like most, I understand if someone has to go to the bathroom, etc. Any you never truly know why a party may have to split up...but, I would pretty much do everything I could to not split up my family under normal circumstances.

The only other time I have every done anything similar was waiting for Rapunzel meet and greet. It was my niece's first trip and Rapunzel was still new, so it was a must once we saw her! Of course, the line was long and as soon as we entered Rapunzel took a break, so I waited in the line while my niece and mother shopped a bit, but the break was pretty long and they were back before we moved. They don't let those queue's get as long as ride lines though.

I do not condone line jumping at all. My family has been known to form a wall of sorts at the fill in the space moments and I will admit I have told folks "nope" at times in lines.

That said, for the new visitors looking at this thread, please don't think this is the norm. We go at some of the busiest times and very rarely come across this. Most guests are on the same page and don't try to take advantage.

I have seen people letting children in to view parades, I have given up front row views to people there to see Illuminations for the first time. Point being, I see these acts of kindness more than the rudeness.

Just my opinion and trying to put some perspective for newcomers.

 

[lugnut33]

For the same reason you shouldn't get mad if I'm on a private boat to watch Illuminations and you're standing on the sidewalk: You didn't pay for that privilege or convenience. Now, if you'd been standing on the sidewalk for an hour and I walked up and shoved my way in front of you to get a better view because I felt entitled to it, would that make you mad?

Therein lies the difference.

It's not the same, you being in a boat doesn't effect me, however you buying your way ahead of me in a line does. I am not OK with anybody cutting or buying their way ahead of me in a queue. To me either one will delay me.

 

[MinnieSweetheart]

It's not the same, you being in a boat doesn't effect me, however you buying your way ahead of me in a line does. I am not OK with anybody cutting or buying their way ahead of me in a queue. To me either one will delay me.

So you are also opposed to fastpass plus?

 

[lugnut33]

So you are also opposed to fastpass plus?

Yes, it's one of the main reasons I sold our interests in DVC.