Group Warns Florida Tourists They Could Be Shot

[N.Bailey]

Canada's population is currently pegged at just over 32,000,000. Yes, the population of the United States is much higher -- but I'm not sure that can fully account for the difference in the homicide rate between the two countries. Canada's homicide rate is about 2/100,000 -- the homicide rate in the United States was 5.7/100,000 in 2003.



Are illegal immigrants more prone to violent crime than naturalized American citizens?



A trip through the downtown east side of Vancouver, the downtown core of Winnipeg, the Parkdale area of Toronto, or through the downtown core of such "white bread" cities as Kitchener, Waterloo, and Cambridge in Ontario will quickly cure anyone of the opinion that Canada lacks its share of the disenfranchised poor. We have established entire neighbourhoods of the disenfranchised poor in Regent's Park and St. Jamestown in Toronto.



We in Canada know we live in the greatest country in the world -- and we also know we like to visit our neighbours living in another great country to the north, south, east or west. (It's all the United States, but it depends where in Canada you're coming from to get there) Regardless of who has the best country -- I think it's safe to say that a good percentage of the residents of our two countries enjoy the highest standards of living in the world. We control a great deal of the world's wealth and use more than our fair share of the world's resources. The North American footprint on the world is far larger than it ever should be -- and nobody in either Canada or the United States should be living in poverty, going hungry or having to rely on a gun to provide them with a sense of security in their own neighbourhood or while visiting another neighbourhood. (e.g. the Canadian tourist in Florida).

Serial killers are normally white men and money really isn't a factor for many of them. They're just sick psychopaths! There really so far out of the main stream that they're interesting to study. They are for me at least. At a nice safe distance that is! LOL

Domestic violence resulting or not resulting in death can't be said to be determined by financial means either. I'd imagine when there isn't much money, that adds to stress, and stress leads to violence for some. So, perhaps in that respect, it can and does play a part. There are many who are quite well off who participate in domestic violence though. OJ Simpson anyone? Oh that's right, he was acquitted.

I didn't look too hard, but I did come across this site and I can verify that it's accurate, but it stated that 17% of all prisoners in federal prisons are made up of illegal aliens.

Before you close it down without reading, I realize it quotes Sean Hannity from Fox News (which might suggest a bias) this site is out to prove Sean Hannity wrong.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200505060006?is_gsa=1&final=1

This site states that 30% of inmates in federal and state prisons are illegals.

http://www.newswithviews.com/Wooldridge/frosty2.htm

A few exerts from this site:

http://www.cairco.org/issues/issues_crime_us.html

In fiscal year 2002, 33.6% of criminals sentenced in federal district courts under Federal Sentencing Guidelines were non-citizens, and 55% of these non-citizens were illegal aliens. This means that illegal aliens accounted for 17.5% of all crimes prosecuted in federal courts, whereas they are less than 6% of the adult population.

From 1980 to 1999, the number of illegal aliens in federal and state prisons grew from 9,000 to 68,000. Today, criminal aliens account for about 30% of the inmates in federal prisons and 15-25% in many local jails. Incarceration costs to the taxpayers were estimated by the Justice Department in 2002 to be $891 million for federal prison inmates and $624 million for inmates in state prisons.

An interesting article!

Anyway, I think we can conclude that illegal aliens are a problem!

While there are many crimes committed by people from all walks of life, MOST are from the poorest areas. I seen you mentioned the poor districts in Canada. Is the crime rate higher in those areas? It's a proven fact here that economics is a huge factor. Again, education and job creation is key, IMO.

 

[CharlesTD]

Canada's population is currently pegged at just over 32,000,000. Yes, the population of the United States is much higher -- but I'm not sure that can fully account for the difference in the homicide rate between the two countries. Canada's homicide rate is about 2/100,000 -- the homicide rate in the United States was 5.7/100,000 in 2003.



Are illegal immigrants more prone to violent crime than naturalized American citizens?



A trip through the downtown east side of Vancouver, the downtown core of Winnipeg, the Parkdale area of Toronto, or through the downtown core of such "white bread" cities as Kitchener, Waterloo, and Cambridge in Ontario will quickly cure anyone of the opinion that Canada lacks its share of the disenfranchised poor. We have established entire neighbourhoods of the disenfranchised poor in Regent's Park and St. Jamestown in Toronto.



We in Canada know we live in the greatest country in the world -- and we also know we like to visit our neighbours living in another great country to the north, south, east or west. (It's all the United States, but it depends where in Canada you're coming from to get there) Regardless of who has the best country -- I think it's safe to say that a good percentage of the residents of our two countries enjoy the highest standards of living in the world. We control a great deal of the world's wealth and use more than our fair share of the world's resources. The North American footprint on the world is far larger than it ever should be -- and nobody in either Canada or the United States should be living in poverty, going hungry or having to rely on a gun to provide them with a sense of security in their own neighbourhood or while visiting another neighbourhood. (e.g. the Canadian tourist in Florida).

The one thing up here to RC is atleast our downtrodden still have healthcoverage in case something does happen.

 

[Jamesbyr]

I don't know how this topic turned into a debate about Canada. Everyone in NYC thirty years ago knew that if you wanted to buy a gun, you just went to Florida. In a car. You brought it back in the trunk. The new law is just an extension of that laxity. Tourists were definitely at risk a few years ago with the rental car stuff, but I think they are pretty safe now. Most of the new dirt will happen in supermarket checkout lanes. And maybe some road rage cases.