GRAND OPENING - GRAND CLOSING (Florida)

[DGsAtBLT]

Exactly. Parents had to do little more than they did when physical school was in attendance dance here. Their issue wasn’t that distance learning was not sufficient, it’s that those with younger kids lost their childcare. I’m sorry, but schools aren’t, or at least shouldn’t t be, babysitters.

We also had alternatives for those kids who did not have access to technology and they set up pick up breakfast and lunches with teachers volunteering to man it. It is true the less advantaged had a harder time, but they always do.
Funding from the government to assist in that would alleviate that problem.

Our distance learning was extremely inconsistent not only across the province, across schools, but even between classrooms at each school. Friends of mine who are teachers were full blown lecturing online, while other parents I talked to reported their kids getting *nothing* from their teachers. My kids school gave little more than busy work, and we are fortunate that we did not have to struggle with the childcare aspect so I could throw myself into the role of cobbled together homeschool teacher to keep up some sort of learning in my home.

I can’t speak for everywhere, but here the problem went beyond childcare. Even with teachers that provided a lot, it would still leave parents with the issue of actually helping their kids through it, as a teacher would be the first to tell you that teaching is so much more than just plopping a kid in front of a lesson and expecting them to be self sufficient. It was a huge burden on parents and teachers alike, and then there’s the teachers who are parents as well.

It’s a very complicated issue where nobody is really going to win and there’s also not really any ideal solution.

 

[godisney14]

Well the governor has rescinded local mandates. I don’t think that can stand if they want to push it.

I can’t even imagine what went through the guy’s head to order a ban on local governments from mandating masks.
It’s as if he wants his people to become sick.

 

[trmiv]

What drives me nuts about this insane push to open schools here in Florida is most districts are doing it without doing even basic measures to protect students and staff because 1)there’s not enough time because of the mandate and 2)even if there was enough time, school districts don’t have the money.

I keep hearing people here in Florida say, “well if theme parks can be open, schools can be open.” First the theme parks shouldn’t be open and second the big theme parks are taking a lot of measures to protect cast and guests as best they can. For schools they just want to open up business as usual. Where is the money for additional teachers to reduce class sizes to encourage distancing? Are they going to pay for acrylic barriers for teachers or students to reduce contact? Are they paying to provide PPE for teachers and students? Are they hiring additional custodians to sanitize classrooms nightly? Are they improving HVAC systems to reduce the spread in AC? Are they providing alternative rooms for teachers stuck in portables with mini-split AC or classrooms with no windows? I could go on and on. The answer is none of that will be done. They will expect schools open how they were in March, hoping that some parents elect to do virtual or homeschool and that sorts it out. Meanwhile they will also expect teachers to teach BOTH in person classes and online classes.

My wife is a teacher and even before this we had to pay to provide basics for her classroom like cleaning supplies, tissues, hand soap and sanitizer. Also there would be weeks between her requesting a custodian come in to vacuum or clean her classroom desks and when it would actually be done. She had a leak above the door in her portable that was soaking the carpet near the door on raining days and it took almost an entire semester to get it repaired. How is any of that going to be improved? If they couldn’t provide the basic level needed before this, how are they going to provide the much higher level of service and cleaning needed now? It’s not possible.

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

I can’t even imagine what went through the guy’s head to order a ban on local governments from mandating masks.
It’s as if he wants his people to become sick.

Well "his" people broke the law and didn't wear a mask and got called on it on TV. So the logical solution is to claim he is in charge and override it.

 

[anthony2k7]

I feel like since January/February we’ve been watching terrible decisions get made, sarcastically wondering what could possibly go wrong, and then of course it all went wrong.

So frustrating

I feel like the last 5 months have been a complete waste of time.

My attitude now is just despair. Every post on here be it more bad results, more chaos in DHS, more people celebrating disney open and planning their trips.... all of those I just want to or . Its getting to the point where there really isn't much more you can say.

Grab the sit back and stay safe.

 

[anthony2k7]

Yep. I’m super frustrated by it.

Closing the bars and requiring masks in AZ seems to have flatten the seven day moving average. I think we can’t have bars open while this is going on. They’re going to fail. It sucks for them. But the alternative is worse right now.

Could be worse. You could be in the UK where most people are as anti mask as palm Beach floridians were a couple of months ago. Nevermind, Boris to the rescue with more vague suggestions on how masks may be helpful to then announce they will be needed by law in shops from next Friday (yay!). But shop workers are exempt (????!!!) and a long list of our biggest retailers said this morning they would not be enforcing the requirement on shoppers either.

Oh and our government has said there would be no benefit to masks in offices and places other than shops.

And finally, all those who have been happy working at home and can do so as productively as in their normal work place - Boris wants them to go back to work. Currently its should go back, but media say from next week language will change to "must now go back".

 

[RamblingMad]

Could be worse. You could be in the UK where most people are as anti mask as palm Beach floridians were a couple of months ago. Nevermind, Boris to the rescue with more vague suggestions on how masks may be helpful to then announce they will be needed by law in shops from next Friday (yay!). But shop workers are exempt (????!!!) and a long list of our biggest retailers said this morning they would not be enforcing the requirement.

Oh and our government has said there would be no benefit to masks in offices and places other than shops.

And finally, all those who have been happy working at home and can do so as productively as in their normal work place - Boris wants them to go back to work. Currently its should go back, but media say from next week language will change to "must now go back".

I wonder how much of this is driven by the Tories since he had the virus.

 

[anthony2k7]

I wonder how much of this is driven by the Tories since he had the virus.

I dont know. They all seem a bit weak and noncommittal really.

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

Oh dear. Another lawsuit has been filed against mask ordinances and some covidiot went on CNN yesterday and claimed Florida is doing just fine and that they should go to full open.

 

[anthony2k7]

Oh dear. Another lawsuit has been filed against mask ordinances and some covidiot went on CNN yesterday and claimed Florida is doing just fine and that they should go to full open.

Let them. Meanwhile anyone with any sense, just stay as safe as you can.

 

[TLSnell1981]

As a parent of teachers, maybe the only bright spot is parents will realize how hard teaching actually is. That said, I don't care if they're sick of it. I don't want my kids to have to walk into a petrie dish because parents need baby sitters. Two of my kids are actively looking for other jobs. They're great at what they do, but they aren't going to risk dying to do it.

What petrie dish?

 

[sam_gordon]

Oh dear. Another lawsuit has been filed against mask ordinances and some covidiot went on CNN yesterday and claimed Florida is doing just fine and that they should go to full open.

Kentucky's AG has filed suit against ALL executive orders, masks, closings, everything!

 

[cakebaker]

What petrie dish?

A classroom. My daughter’s school re-opening plan is to wipe the desks down at night. That’s it. No masks, no distancing. She has an average of 35 kids to a class and long tables, no individual desks. There will be 6 classes a day in her room. That’s over 200 kids a day sitting at those tables with no sanitizing. It’s insanity.

Oh and they won’t ban teachers from wearing masks. That’s generous of them.

 

[TomServo27]

What world we live in smh.
https://apple.news/AHFVwuykkQyiecARSoGTKDA

 

[Christine]

What world we live in smh.
https://apple.news/AHFVwuykkQyiecARSoGTKDA

At this point, she just needs to be slapped.

 

[kymom99]

Kentucky's AG has filed suit against ALL executive orders, masks, closings, everything!

I am sickened today. And frightened. The AG has got to be crazy. To take away every tool we have to keep people safe is beyond belief. He claims it’s because the governor didn’t get approval of the general assembly but that would have taken months. They can’t even pass a budget.

One school district up here has announced they will start school with NTI. I believe more will follow. Never in my wildest dreams did I expect us to be in this spot by now. My son is due to go back to campus in a few weeks and I’m beside myself because I am afraid they will change to all online. I just don’t know what to think.

 

[dvcgirl67]

I am sickened today. And frightened. The AG has got to be crazy. To take away every tool we have to keep people safe is beyond belief. He claims it’s because the governor didn’t get approval of the general assembly but that would have taken months. They can’t even pass a budget.

One school district up here has announced they will start school with NTI. I believe more will follow. Never in my wildest dreams did I expect us to be in this spot by now. My son is due to go back to campus in a few weeks and I’m beside myself because I am afraid they will change to all online. I just don’t know what to think.

It's legit nuts, all of it. Georgia Governor saying no city or town can mandate masks. Texas Governor also out today saying that Texas isn't shutting down. Florida, well, we all know what they're doing. Deaths are starting the predictable rise, and yet, there's been no shut down to really flatten the curve. And from the administration today...."The Science should not stand in the way of schools re-opening". Got it. Awesome.

 

[kymom99]

It's legit nuts, all of it. Georgia Governor saying no city or town can mandate masks. Texas Governor also out today saying that Texas isn't shutting down. Florida, well, we all know what they're doing. Deaths are starting the predictable rise, and yet, there's been no shut down to really flatten the curve. And from the administration today...."The Science should not stand in the way of schools re-opening". Got it. Awesome.

A lady I know has grandchildren in Marietta Ga. she said they are going full NTI

 

[SaintsManiac]

It's legit nuts, all of it. Georgia Governor saying no city or town can mandate masks. Texas Governor also out today saying that Texas isn't shutting down. Florida, well, we all know what they're doing. Deaths are starting the predictable rise, and yet, there's been no shut down to really flatten the curve. And from the administration today...."The Science should not stand in the way of schools re-opening". Got it. Awesome.

It is pure madness and lunacy and every other word for crazy that exists.

 

[sam_gordon]

I am sickened today. And frightened. The AG has got to be crazy. To take away every tool we have to keep people safe is beyond belief. He claims it’s because the governor didn’t get approval of the general assembly but that would have taken months. They can’t even pass a budget.

I just hope it gets to the supreme court quickly (or maybe not quickly).

One school district up here has announced they will start school with NTI. I believe more will follow. Never in my wildest dreams did I expect us to be in this spot by now. My son is due to go back to campus in a few weeks and I’m beside myself because I am afraid they will change to all online. I just don’t know what to think.

At this point, our school district is giving families three options... return to school, NTI, or home school. We have in person meetings with guidance counselors next week to go over schedules. The HS put out a video today saying they're adjusting schedules, and are going to try to social distance classrooms so the kids don't need to wear masks during class. They said they're going to use every available room in the school, even those not normally used for classes to provide that. I hope things work out.