GRAND OPENING - GRAND CLOSING (Florida)

[tippity]

I thought it was the opposite? That the strand from Italy was more deadly. It's why NY got hit so hard and the West Coast didn't?

No, according to the epidemiologists the Italian strain is more contagious, but they think it isn't as deadly. But like everything else with the virus, more study is required.

 

[tippity]

I know a nurse here in AZ that’s been operating at surge capacity for the last two weeks. The hospital is at 120% capacity with 40% of the patients having COVID. It doesn’t help that it’s ridiculously hot right now.

I haven't seen any hospital in AZ that have stopped scheduling elective surgeries. According to reports I've read; surge capacity means all elective surgeries are cancelled. What hospital are you referring to?

 

[DisneyJamieCA]

No, according to the epidemiologists the Italian strain is more contagious, but they think it isn't as deadly. But like everything else with the virus, more study is required.

Can you give me a link? I'm not arguing with you, but it's not what I've seen, so I'd like to catch up on the most current news.

 

[cakebaker]

It turns out there are errors in Florida's test reporting. Smaller labs have only been reporting positive results. This is one possible explanation of the high positive rate.

https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/f...s-have-not-reported-negative-covid-19-results

That’s been covered -

Rebel A. Cole
@RebelACole
Upon further review of the FL daily State Report, I have learned that these are cumulative tests, not daily tests.

I had assumed these were daily testing totals.
They are not.

Should not compared with daily positive number.

Not meaningful.
3:31 PM · Jul 12, 2020

 

[anthony2k7]

Everyone seen this?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1283047321509470209

 

[DisneyJamieCA]

Everyone seen this?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1283047321509470209

16 hours?! Wow!

 

[tippity]

https://www.newsweek.com/italian-strain-coronavirus-now-more-dominant-original-wuhan-one-1515219
They do not believe that the European strain causes disease that is more severe than the original, while also stressing that it is "unlikely" the mutation will have any significant effect on current efforts to develop a vaccine.
Previous studies have indicated that the G614 strain may be significantly more infectious than the original D614 strain, with researchers from Scripps Research Institute recently concluding that the European strain is 10 times more infectious.

 

[Pyotr]

That’s been covered -

Rebel A. Cole
@RebelACole
Upon further review of the FL daily State Report, I have learned that these are cumulative tests, not daily tests.

I had assumed these were daily testing totals.
They are not.

Should not compared with daily positive number.

Not meaningful.
3:31 PM · Jul 12, 2020

This article is unrelated to Mr. Cole‘s tweets.

 

[anthony2k7]

16 hours?! Wow!

Yep. If true (let's wait on more studies) it would be difficult to justify any indoor dining or bars being open anywhere where masks cannot be used.

 

[dvcgirl67]

16 hours?! Wow!

Yes, 16 hours, and if you read further along in that thread, there's another expert that discusses the 6ft thing inside. It's not enough. And 25-50% capacity, doesn't seem to make a difference either without masks. So, for example, people in restaurants without masks on are talking, eating, laughing...without masks on. If someone is infected, the tiny aerosol droplets from their exhaled breath can hang in the air for up to 16 hours. And...the more they talk, exhale, etc, it just fills up that air in that room....and then you can suck that in. It's why we see such a correlation between indoor bars and restaurants....and a spike in infections.

All I can say is....I can't wait for the movie someone makes of this whole thing. It's insane.

 

[DisneyJamieCA]

https://www.newsweek.com/italian-strain-coronavirus-now-more-dominant-original-wuhan-one-1515219
They do not believe that the European strain causes disease that is more severe than the original, while also stressing that it is "unlikely" the mutation will have any significant effect on current efforts to develop a vaccine.
Previous studies have indicated that the G614 strain may be significantly more infectious than the original D614 strain, with researchers from Scripps Research Institute recently concluding that the European strain is 10 times more infectious.

Thank you for the link. Although that doesn’t say the one from Wuhan is more deadly unless I missed it.

 

[cakebaker]

This article is unrelated to Mr. Cole‘s tweets.

It’s the same exact issue. Based on the number of tests run vs positives reported, around 15% is correct. This is a non story unless one is desperate to try and explain away what’s happening.

 

[Pyotr]

It’s the same exact issue. Based on the number of tests run vs positives reported, around 15% is correct. This is a non story unless one is desperate to try and explain away what’s happening.

Accurate numbers do matter. If one site is reporting a 98% positive rate when in actuality it’s 8.9%, it’s an issue.

 

[roomthreeseventeen]

The Trump administration orders hospitals to bypass the CDC and send key coronavirus information to a Washington database, alarming health officials who fear the books will be cooked to make a political point
https://t.co/ezMAO9ik0Q?amp=1

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

This article is unrelated to Mr. Cole‘s tweets.

It's not only related, it is the same issue. And he referenced the same data Fox did.
1. It's cumulative, not from the past two weeks so if there are any errors, they've been there all along, not just in the past two weeks. So no. That doesn't explain the recent rise in positives.
2. We're talking small labs with not all that many tests. They're a drop in the bucket compared to labs that have thousands upon thousands and even hundreds of thousands of tests and none of those big labs are in question. So the numbers aren't there from these smaller labs to explain the recent increase.

 

[HeatherC]

The Trump administration orders hospitals to bypass the CDC and send key coronavirus information to a Washington database, alarming health officials who fear the books will be cooked to make a political point
https://t.co/ezMAO9ik0Q?amp=1

Wouldn’t this be considered a political post?

 

[roomthreeseventeen]

Wouldn’t this be considered a political post?

I'm not talking politics, just saying the data is going to the CDC anymore.

 

[KBoopaloo]

It's not only related, it is the same issue. And he referenced the same data Fox did.
1. It's cumulative, not from the past two weeks so if there are any errors, they've been there all along, not just in the past two weeks. So no. That doesn't explain the recent rise in positives.
2. We're talking small labs with not all that many tests. They're a drop in the bucket compared to labs that have thousands upon thousands and even hundreds of thousands of tests and none of those big labs are in question. So the numbers aren't there from these smaller labs to explain the recent increase.

Exactly.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1283144802113126400

 

[anthony2k7]

The Trump administration orders hospitals to bypass the CDC and send key coronavirus information to a Washington database, alarming health officials who fear the books will be cooked to make a political point
https://t.co/ezMAO9ik0Q?amp=1

The books are already being cooked, it's just gonna be different people doing it now!

 

[cakebaker]

Accurate numbers do matter. If one site is reporting a 98% positive rate when in actuality it’s 8.9%, it’s an issue.

But it’s not, so it’s a non issue.