Grand Floridian RPC - Horror Story

I could not believe the rudeness and basic lack of service your family encountered at the resort Disney describes as the "consummate guest experience." You and your sister should both write letters to Disney in the same just-stating-the-facts tone you use here.

While most people have a pleasant stay at Disney resorts, in recent months there have been too many reports of guests being regarded by CMs as liars and annoyances. You could have paid half of what you paid (or less) and stayed at a nice luxury hotel in the Orlando area or even (gasp!) at Universal Studios. When you pay extra to stay at a Disney deluxe, you should receive a significantly higher level of service. As a previous poster mentioned, you would have better treated at an All Star. And no one who pays that kind of money for a hotel room should have to do jumping jacks in front of the air conditioner to keep it on. You should be able to run it continuously if that's what you want!

IMHO, Disney should charge all of you the going rate for an All Star, not GF concierge; your parents should be comped for a few nights stay at a Disney resort of their choice; and you should all receive a sincere letter of apology from Disney.
 
Yikes!!! What a nightmare! I'm so sorry you had so many problems - especially having paid for special top-class treatment. ITA that you should continue to complain and write to whomever you can. Not only might you (hopefully) finally get results, but I think it would be cathartic as well. I imagine it would be very hard to shake off that experience. I'm sure Disney has tons of complaints each day, but you would think that they would do something for you even if it was some kind of comp or perk to be put towards your next stay (if you could bring yourself to even try another WDW resort).
 
Despite the charm of WDW, the hotel service has gone downhill. For I while, I thought it was me expecting too much until my recent trip to the Ritz Carlton in Palm Beach. Now that was real 5 star service and the best meals I've ever had. The trip was very relaxing. To boot, we paid only $165 a night.

Disney hotels are too expensive and I've had better service at a Holiday Inn Express.

That's my two cents.
 
Just wondering if the service was less than stellar due to...

Busy time of year?

Or the fact that you had discount rates?(I have discount rates for the first time ever on my upcoming trip and wonder if staff "unconciensiously" will not treat me the same?)
 

I am so sorry that you had this kind of treatment when you took your mom for a special reason, surviving breat cancer. I found the same thing at BWI, the food was never replentished so you had to get there when the hr. started or you missed out. I did call the resort manager and he was the nicest guy about my problem, I would start there. I am going back to concierge at the BWI next yr. to try it out 1 more time, it is a beautiful resort and besides I am getting an upgrade to concierge. Sure, I have my doubts and if it is bad I will switch hotels, whetherit be in the park or out. I expect when I pay top $$$$$$ i want top service, you by all meens should of gotten that. good luck and let us know the outcome. God Bless your mom and your family.
 
We have a stay planned at the Polynesian Concierge coming up soon and after what I've been reading recently I'm beginning to have second thoughts.

We aren't so much concerned about the concierge level services as we are about the basic services being performed properly. Even Tiki-Man mentioned his issues with how the resorts have been dealing with guest issues and if something could compel him not to return anytime soon then maybe the problem is far worse than we suspect.

I still have a good window to retrieve my deposit. Thank you for your post. If nothing else, if I continue to see such negative feedback posted for situations that should have been a no-brainer for Disney, we'll go to Universal or Bush Gardens instead. The kids aren't brainwashed on Disney so it won' be a problem.

Too bad. I was raised with Disney being a household name and well know for catering to families with excellent service. If Disney management has allowed it's resort/park services to decline this far, Disney may be in for far worse financials in the future.

The Parks/Resorts are the cashcow for a corporation that has made some horrible media decisions over the past few years. Some pretty stupid decisions being made on the part of their leadership to allow their only performing areas of cash flow to falter in the level of service they provide. Some of their other public relations disasters at the parks have only further alienated people looking for a "family oriented experience" in an environement where innocent children can be just that: innocent.

Capitalism is a marvelous thing: the market will inevitably produce an alternative for families who want that "magic" experience. If Disney has dropped the ball I'm sure that something will come along and take their place. At any rate, I'll continue to read the posts. If I'm convinced that we won't being receiving the level of service we expect, we can always go somewhere else. Such a pity. Walt Disney had expected so much more from his work...
 
We all know why the service is declining. Stock prices are tumbling, profits down, upper management is in jeopardy of losing their bonuses and stock options. So, you cut heads and service in order to keep the profits up. You turn up the airconditioning and blame it on motion sensors. Don't fill up the buffet because you may have to throw away some food at the end of the day. Keep cutting, and eventually you cut attendance. We start going to Universal and Bush Gardens. So you now need to raise prices. Problem is, we keep coming because it's "Disney" and we are all hoping for that magical trip like we had when we were children. Now our children are not having that magical trip and they will be less likely to return with their family when they get older. I'm sorry Michael has started this downward spiral. It's always tough to recover from. Service will get worse. Facilities will get old and upkeep will decline. Or someone will wake up and realize what they are doing and get it turned around. One can only hope.
 
Katesdad,

I agree with your theory. I was thinking along those same lines. It is absolutely terrible.
 
One thing Disney should consider. The Dead Hard Disney lovers are saying enough is enough with the cut backs. If the repeat visitors start going elsewhere....
 
I don't blame you for being upset, especially since the GM hasn't responded to you. I feel like calling them directly myself about this! In the summer of 1998 my whole family also stayed at the Grand Floridian since after my dad passed away my mom wanted all of the grandkids to go to Disney which is something my dad had wanted. We stayed in regular lagoon view rooms and had a great time, although I didn't feel that the staff at check in was especially friendly. We stayed at the poly concierage in April, 2001 and really loved it. But we still missed that Grand feeling, so were going to book the GF for this November. HOWEVER, now that I have read these reports, we are thinking this over! Could you tell me what resort you will pick next? thanks,Carolyn
 
Hi Carolyn,

The GF is a beautiful hotel, and we didnt have any problems with any of the CM's other than the concierge staff and manager. If I felt compelled to stay there again (I wont, but just in case you want to), I would stay in a regular lagoon view room and just not pay the extra $ for the concierge. As far as other deluxe resorts, here's what I would base my opinion on:

AKL
Pros - This is my favorite. I love the lobby and theming, sight, smell, sound - it is all incorporated into the theme. Plus, since it is a little off the beaten path it also feels more private. We've always gotten great service here. All 3 restaurants from Jiko, Boma, to even the fast food Mara are very good.
Cons - Transportation - because of the distance there are long bus waits and we usually take our own car (doesnt bother us but it might affect others).

WL
Pros - Great theming, my sister had the best service ever here. We like the pool. and all the flowers. Not as convenient as a monorail resort to MK, but only a boat ride away.
Cons - Cant think of any except not on monorail

Contemporary
Pros - I know a lot of folks have issues with lack of theming. I sort of like the retro-modern feel. I stayed concierge Tower Club on a business trip and the service was great. The concierge buffet food came from the California Grill (a top restuarant) and was very good. Convenient transportation cant be beat. My teenage son loves the huge arcade here.
Cons - I hear the rooms in the wings are more rundown lookiing (never seen them), and can be a long walk. Also, for me, the vanities and sink are in the same room as the tub/shower. With my son and husband, I like to have it separated so that more than one person can get ready (one can be in shower while other shaves, dresses, etc.).


Poly
Pros - Love the new volcano pool. Kona and O'hana are some "must-do" restaurants for us. Convenient to TTC to get you anywhere. Rooms are huge.
Cons - Under some renovation now, lobby is 70's dated, you have to walk outside from monorail / lobby to get to your room which in rain would not be fun.

Yacht / Beach Club
Pros- Location! the back door to Epcot, if you like World Showcase, this is for you. Also, location to the BW and boat to MGM.
Cons - Cant think of any, this is where I would pick next time. I do hear there is some construction going on there.

BWI
Pros - Same as Yacht and Beach Club. Also, the pool has a great theme and the BW view rooms are fun
Cons - Since a lot of people park there to use the BW or go to Epcot, the lobby and grounds always seem really busy and are full of people who are not staying there. Some might like the excitement, but I find it too busy.
 
Pollyanna,
This would be obvious, but do you think people walk around with a sign indicating how much they pay so that every CM knows and treats them accordingly? Even at a d/c rate we were paying over $400 per night.

Do you also know that most people have some kind of code for a d/c whether it be Florida resident, annual passholder, or some type of special?
 
It was only a few weeks ago I was flamed on these boards for saying that, for me, concierge was not worth the money spent. I feel this way when people DO get the services they pay for. It's unspeakable when you don't get those paltry services......it's theft!
 
I can't believe that RPC has not gotten its act together yet! We continually have posts here even from our own moderators (Misti I believe ) on the lack of quality and service at the RPC. I thought in business when demand decreases is the time you do your "best show" and provide the best value and quality to increase demand. WDW has been doing the oposite by cutting all the "extras". I have no ambition to stay at RPC in my lifetime, I wonder is that the effect WDW is looking for?


Someone who has RPC email should email them this thread.
 
WeLoveDisney,

I just read your post and I cannot believe how horribly you were treated!! The RPC has sunk down to a new level! I hope that you pursue this problem and that you receive an apology. I have always been intrigued with staying at the GF and of course trying out their conceirge, but why bother? I'd rather get a regular room with a nice view and keep my distance from the help. Totally unbelievable! Can you imagine how many other people have also been treated this rudely and have not alerted others to it by posting here? The RPC didn't learn this level of rudeness or the feeling that they can do it and get away with it over night. Again I hope you receive some level of satifaction and I do hope that you will not let the unprofessionalism of the RPC employees spoil your desire to vacation at Disney. Keep us posted as to what happens.
 
We stayed at the Grand Floridian/RPC for the millenium celebrations in 2000. We had made the booking 10 years prior and paid approximately $800 per night for our stay!!! Too many issues to go into with absolutely no resolution from any one, including managers of many levels!!

Never again! Biggest disappointment of all our Disney experiences!!:mad:
 
Thanks for the very detailed info Welovedisney! Have you been to the BC? I am now leaning toward the YC or BC but my 13 year old thinks it is still important to be on the monorail for a quick visit to magic kingdom, our fav. park, although I do love the epcot parade and illuminations-that music is great!! How quick is the walk though to Epcot? I remember the walk from the monorail to the showcases being a bit of a walk for my mom or maybe I am not remembering correctly. thanks, Carolyn
 
Hi Carolyn

From YBC it's about a 5-10 minute walk to get to World Showcase. You end up in between England and France (not near the front entrance monorail). The BC is closest (about 5 minutes or less depending upon where your room is). YC is a little further but from the YC pier you can take a quick boat ride to MGM or to Epcot (instead of walking). There is also a nice walkway to MGM, but that is closer to a 20-25 min walk (a lot of people run/jog out there in the AM).
 
I feel so sorry for you and your recent trip to GF. I must admit I am more than alittle nervous now about my own trip to the concierge level at Christmas time:confused:

I have stayed at the GF for my last 3 visits and perhaps I am a glutton for punishment, but each time I experienced some problems. I would say that the most serious transgression was 2 trips ago in 1997 at Halloween.

I stayed in Conch Key and none of my special needs were met when I checked in. No bed board, no refrig (for my medication), and not a non-smoking room. I am asthmatic and the smell of cigarettes and pine-sol was overwhelming. When I complained to the front desk they moved me immediately into another non-smoking room but it took 2 days for the refrig and the bedboard. I was keeping my medication on ice in my cooler.

The most horrific experience came at about 2 am. Even then the A/C was not cool and my asthma is heat induced, but even that wasn't the main horror. I was sound asleep when I heard someone trying my door (I was there alone). I guess I fell back asleep but woke up when someone, a man, tried to get into my bed next to me. I SCREAMED bloody murder and turned on the light. He was an old man and thoroughly confused. I ran from my room and tried to use the phone in the lobby to call the police or whoever - I dialed "0". It didn't work. The phone didn't work at all, and I certainly wasn't going to go back to my room.

Other people had heard me scream and came out and I said there was a strange man in my room and could someone please call the police. They too were shocked that the phone didn't work. An older woman came over and apologized to me - she said "My husband is harmless dear, he gets confused and wanders." I guess he has Alzheimer's or something. But I wanted to know how he got "access" to my room in the first place.

Although people said they called the front desk, after 45 minutes no one arrived. So a guest couple walked me to the front desk where I asked why no one had contacted me. They said they had not been informed of any problems.

I later found out that the GF had issued the same room codes to both our rooms. They said the computer decides random codes and occasionally, it happens.

I also had the bad experience of getting on a bus with a CM who was quite psycho. Some kids (8th graders) from some church group in the deep South who had never been to WDW were being kids and talking on the bus. The driver slammed on the brakes on the way to Typhoon Lagoon, stood up and said if the kids didn't quiet down immediately she had the authority to revoke their trips and send them home. This had the opposite effect on the kids - they started to cry. I was the only adult on the bus and I told the kids not to worry - she didn't have the authority. I then went up to the driver and said she might have been a little too hard on the kids. She told me to Shut my ****ing mouth and stay out of it, it was none of my business, and she had this authority to throw me off the bus. I quietly told her "no," and as I was a Disney stockholder I knew she did not not have any such authority. I then went back to my seat by the kids - a few of whom were whimpering. About 5 minutes passed and the kids were talking loudly again, without any warning the bus suddenly swerved across 2 lanes of traffic, went into the wrong entrance for the Downtown Disney area, and stopped. The driver opened the doors and said "I've had it!" and walked off. Some of the kids were tossed out of their seats and had fallen to the floor - now they REALLY were crying. I went to the radio and called for help.

Did I complain about all of this. YOU BET I DID! I tried the GM at GF, Ms. Sussan, but she was on medical leave for cancer. When I tried to go through other channels and got nowhere, I got mad. I wrote it all up and sent copies to Michael Eisner. He reimbursed me for the entire cost of my trip package. When Ms. Sussan returned, I got a free 3 day visit back to the GF.

My feeling is this, if the complaints do not get resolved to your satisfaction and they are serious enough, start at the top and work down. I was more than satisfied with the handling of the matter once I contacted Eisner.

Now, when I have returned to the GF, a few minor mistakes may be made, but they treat me like the queen I think I am or at least, that I've paid to be for my stay. Also, in these harder times, I find that I am trying to be a little more patient with people; today could be my last day on this earth, and I'd like to be remembered for something nice I said rather than being too demanding. But that's just me and my belief. Every one else has to do what they think and feel is right.

I read the McManus items and I am hoping my trip at Christmas for 2.5 weeks, will be more reflective of theirs, and not repeat or create new serious mistakes as is yours.
 
Disneyispi
Thanks for your post. That is unbelievable - I feel so bad for those kids! I'm glad you were there, but sorry about your trip.

I've had no luck with Ms Sussan - how did you contact Michael Eisner?
 

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