Good "side hustle"?

[gotomu212]

Not trying to be argumentative, I'm genuinely curious... when you go to a professional sporting event (or some college events), you can end up broadcast on TV. The broadcaster is making money doing the broadcast, and they're not getting waivers signed. So what's the difference?

Thank you for your insight.

Totally valid question and it is hard to wrap your head around- the broadcaster has a separate contract with the venue, league, and with the team and are covered under the ticket waiver (and under broadcast laws) as an extension of the venue per their contract. So abc/espn can transmit the game, but a crew from NBC couldn’t buy a ticket and come in and tape. For you to take advantage of the photo waiver, you’d need individual contract/written permission from the venue/team/league (depending on how the sport is set up) and that entity would also be taking responsibility for your content (for example if CBS found an overweight person in the audience and mocked them on national television or made homophobic or racial comments on air- timely today- both the broadcaster and the team/league can be held liable. So the venue/team/league with the waiver isn’t absolved from any and all responsibility for how your image is used just because they posted a waiver. That’s why anyone granting you broadcasting rights is going to have legal concerns that aren’t in play if it’s just “conner‘s dad made a copy of the game and happened to make fun of two of the kids and shared it with a few other parents”.

 

[sam_gordon]

Totally valid question and it is hard to wrap your head around- the broadcaster has a separate contract with the venue, league, and with the team and are covered under the ticket waiver (and under broadcast laws) as an extension of the venue per their contract. So abc/espn can transmit the game, but a crew from NBC couldn’t buy a ticket and come in and tape. For you to take advantage of the photo waiver, you’d need individual contract/written permission from the venue/team/league (depending on how the sport is set up) and that entity would also be taking responsibility for your content (for example if CBS found an overweight person in the audience and mocked them on national television or made homophobic or racial comments on air- timely today- both the broadcaster and the team/league can be held liable. So the venue/team/league with the waiver isn’t absolved from any and all responsibility for how your image is used just because they posted a waiver. That’s why anyone granting you broadcasting rights is going to have legal concerns that aren’t in play if it’s just “conner‘s dad made a copy of the game and happened to make fun of two of the kids and shared it with a few other parents”.

Thank you. The bolded is what I was picturing. I thought it would be a cool thing to offer to teams/parents, and I would think if the price is right (whether fixed or per viewer), a lot of people would "go for it". But then I start wondering "ok, what's an acceptable cost?" And my brain goes off on tangents, and so I posted here.

I can see getting with a youth league (pick a sport) or school/school team and offer it to them. Again, I'm not in a position to do this right now (aside from my kids' teams), so it's really all moot but I thought could be interesting.

Again, thank you for your insight.

ETA: FWIW, I wouldn't have announcers.

 

[gotomu212]

Thank you. The bolded is what I was picturing. I thought it would be a cool thing to offer to teams/parents, and I would think if the price is right (whether fixed or per viewer), a lot of people would "go for it". But then I start wondering "ok, what's an acceptable cost?" And my brain goes off on tangents, and so I posted here.

I can see getting with a youth league (pick a sport) or school/school team and offer it to them. Again, I'm not in a position to do this right now (aside from my kids' teams), so it's really all moot but I thought could be interesting.

Again, thank you for your insight.

ETA: FWIW, I wouldn't have announcers.

It was fun for me to nerd out with what is usually useless knowledge The thing most likely to work would be a contract with a private league (since you need waivers from all teams playing) and negotiate a flat filming fee. The league would own the footage and handle distribution (most likely by offering it to all players as x dollars for season pass-but then you’d need someone filming all games). That’s what a league would be most likely to accept from a liability standpoint and because a lot of organizations have a “no sell/no marketing” stance where individuals can’t profit off other members.

I know for me personally I’d be fine with the school/league filming games and selling them because I want to support the organizations and money raised by them benefits the kids; I’d be a lot more hesitant to hear a parent from another team that I don’t know is making money off my kid. That might be a minority opinion though.

 

[luv2sewtjr]

I know that some of the AAU basketball clubs in my area partner with an organization that does the filming. So if I wanted to watch one of my students at a tournament, I would have to pay them some sort of subscription or membership fee.

 

[Skywalker]

I think its a great idea! Business might drop off after a vaccine, but even after that it would be a great way to include grandparents, long-distance relatives, lazy people (like myself lol) etc. Sign me up, Sam!